GM Performance Parts LSX Shootout - Where was the LSx Stuff?

This was my first LSX Shootout, so I may have been expecting too much..

But I was there Saturday and Sunday and saw very few LSx powered cars run. The True Street cars ran their three runs, but spent the majority of the day sitting in front of the stands.

The really fast pro street cars were cool to watch, but that's not what I had come for. Those huge big block Merlin's and such are nothing I'll ever be able to afford, and would much rather see a ton of 9 second Fbodies and Corvettes.

Saturday night the nitrous fires took up so much time..why were these cars running? I'm pretty sure they weren't LS cars.

So as a fan, I'm not sure if I should be disappointed, or if my expectations were just incorrect.

I'm curious to hear others input.

Thanks,
A.J. McKinney

i would start by reading alot of these other posts on here sounds like this year was step back

the reason you were seeing all the other classes besides the lsx cars is because of the nmca finals.most of the lsx heads up classes ran later on saturday night.around 7-8 IIRC.

I was truly disappointed also.

I m hoping with the new camaros out, they will be able to eventually dedicate an event to the F body, and vettes only.... I was expecting more F-bodies, but if my ticket helps the event grow, Im fine with that...

Extremely Disappointed in the way things were run!

last year was way better in my opinion. no disrespect but things seemed like they were a cluster fuck this year :( true street took 7 or 8 hours, i was so tired of sitting down there next to my car, a couple times i almost fell asleep in the car!!

I had the same expectations as the OP and was disappointed with the events coordinating. Good to hear that last year was much better and hope to see things improved for next year.

Yup, this year sucked ass compared to the past two years. I spent about $1,000.00 to come watch and I feel that it was wasted. Hopefully they will do better next year. I want to see a class designed for the nitrous cars so that I can come compete!

Thanks to all the racers though, You guys did put on a good show when you did get to run.

I missed all of the eliminations because I had to be back in Atlanta this morning for a 7 o'clock class... :(

yeah it kinda sucked this was my first time and i will do it again but i hope things change a lot next year

Yeah... I hate to be one of those guys to jump on the bandwagon, but this year was a complete cluster compared to previous years.

i enjoyed the show dont get me wrong this was my first year so my expectations were high from what i had read but the racing took so long my and my cousin spent most of the time walking threw the vendors car show and pits talking to everybody and getting ideas but the racing taking so long was disappointing but ill be back next year tho for sure still loved it tho

Yeah, LSX shootout equals big disappointment this year. Big clusterfuck. I was there and waited, and waited, and waited some more. Then they cancelled it on Sunday eve about 9:30 p.m. or so. Yes, there was some oil downs and wrecks, but that was not the cause for slow moving mess. They could have run 3 rounds of index during the day. First round was about 9:00 a.m. and the next round was not scheduled until about 5:00 p.m. - UNREAL, but then never even happened - POSTPONED until Monday. WTF. Multiple rounds of NMCA and BRACKET were run before the LS racers even came back around. Very huge disappointment for the LS crowd.

The NMCA track personnel drug their feet the whole weekend. Everything took forever, time between rounds was ridiculous, even the time it took to get first round off was nuts! For not many cars showing up they had to do something to make the event last I suppose. I feel like a sucker for going. Total waste of time this year.

So poorly ran, I will not be going back next year. Disppointing show. The LSX crowd definitely was pushed way, way back. They were the red headed step child of the event for sure. The index racers were completely screwed this year. Heck, the bracket racers got more track time on Sunday than we did.

Joke, joke, joke.

Glad to see this thread and know I am not alone on my feelings. I am sure some worked hard to make it go, but it fell apart bigtime through the weekend. What a mess. Hope someone straightens it out.

What I was most impressed with over the weekend was that GM cared enough to have personnel on hand walking around with the LS racers in the lanes thanking them for their support and being there. Class act!

But I could stayed home and read about that on that internet.

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Very upsetting to take 8 hours to run true street not to mention how tiring it was.

The early bird party was the best part of the event. Now with that being said. This was my first year at the event, maybe my expectations were a little high but wow. I was disappointed. The way the true street guys got shit on was unbelievable I felt sorry for them. I hope its better next year I will give it one more shot.

First time I have ever been and drove over 5 hours and was VERY dissapointed...Did not come to see bracket racing and jr dragsters run at a national event. I went on Saturday and the racing was very poorly run and took way to long between passes. As soon as a car was off the track the others in the burnout box should have been going and it was never the case. We need a LSX only show I could care less about other crap. I came to see LSx cars race and hardly seen any run...

Change the rules and allow some more OEM motor combos like LT1's for example and you might have a better car count.... I'd show up for drag radial with a nitrous combo that could run in the 8's.... Especially if they dedicate a nitrous class on a radial tire....

Change the rules and allow some more OEM motor combos like LT1's for example and you might have a better car count.... I'd show up for drag radial with a nitrous combo that could run in the 8's.... Especially if they dedicate a nitrous class on a radial tire....


I like alternative ideas, but this is a ls event, so no thanks. Go to the ltx shootout in kcir if you wanna run lt.

Well both events seemed to have low turnouts so maybe an alternative would be combine em.....

if it continues to be an event limited to a certain motor combo then it's gonna continue to have low turnouts....

Double post sorry

damn you helioil, i went red agianst you first round! i was so pissed lol. then i was watching streetlegaltv and saw the guy you ran in the second round went red too. Glad you finally got your car through tech!!! maybe something will be done and we can have our own event.

Hearing that it took 8 hours to complete True Street is disturbing. Last year they ran all three passes back to back, until they were finished. That is the way True Street should always be run, with minimal cool-down time.

it would make sense to have gm only event. like the nmra guys have. unforturnately the lsx shootout piggybacks of the nmca event. and is held in the same place every yr. it would be great to distribute a gm/ls races series across the country. seems to work for the ford events.

Well both events seemed to have low turnouts so maybe an alternative would be combine em.....

if it continues to be an event limited to a certain motor combo then it's gonna continue to have low turnouts....

A king of the hill format would definately be enticing, maybe winnerof na lt against winner of na ls..... Outlaw ls vs outlaw lt.....then "real street 275" ls vs "real street 275" lt


Damn, that gets me pumped up!!!

same here all i seen was damn bracket racers. i could have stayed home and seen that crap. i did see a lot of true street cars parked in front of the grand stands.

Hearing that it took 8 hours to complete True Street is disturbing. Last year they ran all three passes back to back, until they were finished. That is the way True Street should always be run, with minimal cool-down time.

Agreed! This was one of the many scratch your head & say WTF is going on here moments of the weekend. :mad: The old FFW shows at crappy tracks were ran better than this deal.

From my stand point, if you pulled the LSx vendors out of that show & the nice cars that were there representing this community it makes that event a complete joke.

I've been all 3 years & was on the fence about going this year. If it wasn't for having a great time with the guys I was with, I'd be pissed about wasting my time going down there.

I like alternative ideas, but this is a ls event, so no thanks. Go to the ltx shootout in kcir if you wanna run lt.

so watching all those non gm cars and jr dragsters was better.....nice.

so watching all those non gm cars and jr dragsters was better.....nice.

Haha,
you obviously didn't read my follow up post. But to be completely honest, minus the jr dragsters and bracket program, I love watching the nmca program! Watching the big boys of nmca run is fun to me??

Tht being said, I'd rather be with my fellow gm/LTx crowd than nmca.

Haha,
you obviously didn't read my follow up post. But to be completely honest, minus the jr dragsters and bracket program, I love watching the nmca program! Watching the big boys of nmca run is fun to me??

Tht being said, I'd rather be with my fellow gm/LTx crowd than nmca

That's what I'm saying... It would increase the car count probably by AT LEAST 25-30 cars.... There are several 8 second LTx cars right now, and a few more (like mine) that are hovering in the 9.0-9.2 area that are just weather conditions and tune-ups away from running in the 8's... If there was a nitrous radial class that was all GM using OEM blocks (like the LSX block, truck block, LS1,2,3, or LTx) I would run it and i could guarantee we could muster at least another 5-8 cars to fill that field....

I'm not saying cancel the shit altogether but the last time I checked the LT motor wasn't all that far off from the LS motor when it comes to nitrous cars.. But we still get shit on just cause the motor is older and deemed weak... We'd probably get beat by the big LS boys when it comes down to it but hell we'd give it a shot... I went 5.88@120 in the 1/8th and I could see the car going 5.5-5.6 very soon...

I agreed I spent 14 hrs sat to make 3 passes and 13 hrs to make 2 passes on sunday and had to head home sunday to go to work monday.

A king of the hill format would definately be enticing, maybe winnerof na lt against winner of na ls..... Outlaw ls vs outlaw lt.....then "real street 275" ls vs "real street 275" lt


Damn, that gets me pumped up!!!

this is exactly what i want to happen. have all the same classes for LTX and LSX then the winners of each class run off at the end. payouts go out to winners of each class then LSX/LTX blocks go out tothe winners of the runoffs overall :chug:

sounds perfect to me. solid car counts. solid fan base. and our own event. hell we could even have it at memphis where all u LSX guys r use to having the event.

damn you helioil, i went red agianst you first round! i was so pissed lol. then i was watching streetlegaltv and saw the guy you ran in the second round went red too. Glad you finally got your car through tech!!! maybe something will be done and we can have our own event.

Ha, Ha. Yeah, I was lucking my way through until I could get my shit together. I couldn't get the car dialed into a 10.0 after missing testing on Friday (tech issues). That damn air was too good. lol Before coming down to Memphis I had it spot on 10.0 at my local track. Just wasn't my weekend, or maybe it was with all the gifts I was getting. :D I am not sure what happened against you but I totally blew the tires off too, if it makes you feel any better. :poke::cheers:

I packed it in after they called it Sunday.

The waiting around was ridiculous for sure.

this is exactly what i want to happen. have all the same classes for LTX and LSX then the winners of each class run off at the end. payouts go out to winners of each class then LSX/LTX blocks go out tothe winners of the runoffs overall

sounds perfect to me. solid car counts. solid fan base. and our own event. hell we could even have it at memphis where all u LSX guys r use to having the event

Good luck convincing the powers that be that it's worth it to open the event to LTx cars.... we're the red headed step children to the almighty LS cars.... even though there are several 8 second and about to be 8 second LTx nitrous cars... and a few turbo cars that are in the mid 8's....

we're GM, we're OEM block equipped, we're in F-body chassis, we're mostly ALL stock suspension, we're fuel injected, we're late models..... we're 4th gens......

but we're not allowed to run cause our motor combo doesn't start with "LS"..... ghey....

A few of the big shops were set up out there representing, but I was also pretty disappointed in how many others I had expected that weren't. No tents set up by EPP, Vengeance, BMR, Texas Speed, and several others from previous years that I was lookin forward to talking with in person. Also, if I see another Mustang or Dodge go down that track at an LSX event, it better have a fucking LSX in it!

3 of us from Pittsburgh went for the first time, as spectators, this year.
-the early bird LSX party was greattt
-watching the NMCA stuff was pretty cool for us, too. we don't have stuff like that in Pittsburgh.
-i thought the LSx guys got crapped on, too. as we sat in the stands, freezing our asses off, we noticed the true street cars sitting in front of the stands, for what seemed forEVer. i know there was a lot of shit blowing up that required track cleanup(there were a LOT of delays), but there was no reason for you guys to sit there for hours...............waiting to be called.
-all of us had been thinking, ok, let's check it out, maybe next year we'll run our cars. based on how i saw the LSx guys being treated, though, i feel i'd enjoy it more as a spectator. i don't wanna be held prisoner with my car in front of the stands. sorry guys, i feel for you. you got screwed.

Good luck convincing the powers that be that it's worth it to open the event to LTx cars.... we're the red headed step children to the almighty LS cars.... even though there are several 8 second and about to be 8 second LTx nitrous cars... and a few turbo cars that are in the mid 8's....

we're GM, we're OEM block equipped, we're in F-body chassis, we're mostly ALL stock suspension, we're fuel injected, we're late models..... we're 4th gens......

but we're not allowed to run cause our motor combo doesn't start with "LS"..... ghey....

haha ur really pissed huh? lol :D

honestly tho man like i said in that other thread, i think its def being considered.

not pissed really...... LOL.... I like the idea of the LS shootout. I think it's great and i'd hate to see it die..... even though I don't have a dog in the fight it's killing itself with it's own stringent rules.....

it's like if I had a shootout that I called the 1995 Medium Quasar blue z28 from california shootout.... and only invited blue z28's from cali that were made in 95..... the rules are gonna kill my car count... only person to blame is me... :D

Hell the rules are making the LSx nitrous cars not even show up.. and it shows in the car counts...

This was my first time going to this event and will more than likely be my last. I can't say I didn't have a good time hanging around with my buddies but we could have done that at the local tracks. After walking around the pits and checking everything out I was ready to see some LSX racing action but I was pretty disappointed. It took way too long in between rounds and on Sunday when I was expecting to see the big boys get down it was 3:30 or so and the guys racing didn't even know when they were going to be called up. It didn't seem very organized and I personally feel the LSX guys were put on the back burner. We ended up leaving early since no one knew if anything was going to happen that day or not.

Was my first time going as well, and I gotta say I wasnt very impressed with the way things were run...


90% of the time was sitting around and waiting..


We made the best out of the weekend and had a good time with friends, good food & beer....as of now I am not sure I would go back or not..unless they show some improvements in the planning.

Hearing that it took 8 hours to complete True Street is disturbing. Last year they ran all three passes back to back, until they were finished. That is the way True Street should always be run, with minimal cool-down time.

I agree.

The thirty mile cruise also ended up turning into a five mile, pull a u-turn in the highway median and end up at in a gas station parking lot, cruise. There was no escort and everyone got separated at the stop sign.

Ha, Ha. Yeah, I was lucking my way through until I could get my shit together. I couldn't get the car dialed into a 10.0 after missing testing on Friday (tech issues). That damn air was too good. lol Before coming down to Memphis I had it spot on 10.0 at my local track. Just wasn't my weekend, or maybe it was with all the gifts I was getting. :D I am not sure what happened against you but I totally blew the tires off too, if it makes you feel any better. :poke::cheers:

I packed it in after they called it Sunday.

The waiting around was ridiculous for sure.

I was standing around when the guy was going on and on about the 5 point harness on the seat lol. that guy was an ass to me the whole weekend :engarde: every question i asked him he replied with a smart ass short answer. I still havent figured out how I went red on the pro tree when i watched the lights come on and wasnt trying to anticipate them!!

Must have missed us.. We were right at the curve of the return road kind of on the outer corner of the pit area... We had a 12 x 30 Tent with our Vengeance banner and had a black GTO and flat black C5 Z06 with us......


A few of the big shops were set up out there representing, but I was also pretty disappointed in how many others I had expected that weren't. No tents set up by EPP, Vengeance, BMR, Texas Speed, and several others from previous years that I was lookin forward to talking with in person. Also, if I see another Mustang or Dodge go down that track at an LSX event, it better have a fucking LSX in it!

In my opinion the event has grown too big to run:

LSX Shootout
NMCA Finals
Memphis Motorsport Park Bracket Finals

at the same event.

Since it seemed to be a problem then somthing will need to change.

Robin

I like the way that sounds....

From the sound of things from people that went, this was the right event to miss....:emb:


I would have been pissed if I made the 10+ hr drive from Tx, :bang:



B

Yeah but we missed you Brandon

All delays/confusion aside the event was definately cool!!! Ya gotta give credit where credit is due... Atleast there IS an LSX Shootout and the powers that be have put in COUNTLESS hours to make it happen.

HOPEFULLY with the continued growth/success there is a chance the LSX Shootout could be held on its own within the years to come.

All delays/confusion aside the event was definately cool!!! Ya gotta give credit where credit is due... Atleast there IS an LSX Shootout and the powers that be have put in COUNTLESS hours to make it happen.

HOPEFULLY with the continued growth/success there is a chance the LSX Shootout could be held on its own within the years to come.



Ron,

What did the white car with the Proline/Vengance stuff in it run? It was my #1 car there other than Kohler's turbo car, and I never got a chance to see it run. I know he was dying to get a grudge race with the SAM car, hahaha.

Ron,

What did the white car with the Proline/Vengance stuff in it run? It was my #1 car there other than Kohler's turbo car, and I never got a chance to see it run. I know he was dying to get a grudge race with the SAM car, hahaha.

that car put it on the bumper saturday night during lsx rumble class qualifying. not sure if he got his oild pan or not but there was some track cleanup after that.

White Camaro (Owned by Bobby Lashley) went a best of 8.84@152mph.... Sat night he tweaked the suspension a bit to put on a show and took it just a bit too far lol... The car tripped the 60 with the rear tires at 1.42 ..... Car was ON the rear bumper with all four tires off the ground and the driver staring at the sky...... Fortunately the only damage was a cracked TH400 case... It was time for Bobby to upgrade anyway :D :D

Yeah but we missed you Brandon


Hahaha John, I think its time to put together a event in The Great State of TEXAS !!!


IMO, the Top DR cars need to get away from the LSx plate form and go kick ass in other race series....




B