Street Racing & Kill Stories - 2010 Supercharged Camaro SS vs 98 TransAm WS6 WITH VID!

Got to run the new 2010 Magnacharged Camaro SS against my 1998 Trans Am WS6 over the weekend. Got some good footage.
Both cars are recently built, so no track numbers on either car...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=61h2RwcQvCM

nice runs i kinda expected more out of the 2010 camaro with charger, oh and nice clean engine bay on your car:)

nice runs i kinda expected more out of the 2010 camaro with charger, oh and nice clean engine bay on your car:)

I was a bit concerned about being able to hang, but it turned out to be all in the traction. Drag radials are going on the SS this week. Will probably be a whole nuther ballgame then. Plus, my TA is a lot lighter, so weight was a factor there...

What's up with the Ethopia comment? lol


Good looking cars and nice runs! Thought the SS was gonna work it better than that though. Oh well!

What's up with the Ethopia comment? lol


Good looking cars and nice runs! Thought the SS was gonna work it better than that though. Oh well!

Disclaimer baby! HAHA

good runs!

good shit. traction is always the name of the game in FI builds

man lets me know that i'm not trippin we ccan still beat the 5th gen with bolt ons/ins. yes very clean engine bay and 5thgen probably needs driver swap.

man lets me know that i'm not trippin we ccan still beat the 5th gen with bolt ons/ins. yes very clean engine bay and 5thgen probably needs driver swap.

Imma thumbs down your driver mod comment. He owns/drives/races 1000+HP C6 vette. He's a much better driver than I am!

GOOD RUNS. I really did think that SS would beat you from a roll. its usually where FI are at their best.

What was that someone was asking about "has the LS1 F-body lost it's street credibility"? :eyes: LMAO.



Great Vid, 5 stars!

nice runs way to row the gears

Good runs, thanks for sharing. TA sounded great rowing through the gears :D

Good runs, thanks for sharing. TA sounded great rowing through the gears :D

You're right, the LS1 still has great cred!! Close shifts keep that TA in the powerband; shifting at about 66-6700 and only dropping back to 5800. That baby stays in the zone!

what h/c package was the WS6 running? 413 to the ground is kinda low for a bolt-on head/cam setup...

what h/c package was the WS6 running? 413 to the ground is kinda low for a bolt-on head/cam setup...

Gotta love folks who hate on the car that got the kill. Heads are Dart Pro1 stage 3 heads. I dunno the cam lift or duration; it was in the car when I got it. Apparently it is a small one though...Car was dynoed on a warm humid day, so prolly lost 2 or 3 HP due to that ;)

Gotta love folks who hate on the car that got the kill. Heads are Dart Pro1 stage 3 heads. I dunno the cam lift or duration; it was in the car when I got it. Apparently it is a small one though...Car was dynoed on a warm humid day, so prolly lost 2 or 3 HP due to that ;)

I don't think he was hating. It's just that not everyone knows that every H/C LS1 isn't going to put down 450rwhp or more. It depends on the combo.

good stuff

lol brother bowties and arrowheads run through my bloodstream. I can't find it in my heart to hate on any f-body no matter what. I was just saying, most h/c setups i see do net 450+ so i was just confused. Still a badass machine man.

lol brother bowties and arrowheads run through my bloodstream. I can't find it in my heart to hate on any f-body no matter what. I was just saying, most h/c setups i see do net 450+ so i was just confused. Still a badass machine man.

I hear ya. I was actually thinking it was a bit low myself when we finished the build, but I'm super satisfied! It's freakin fast! I think it also depends on the dyno too. It was on a Dynojet dyno, not a mustang pull. That typically renders lower numbers. There's a dyno guy in town who's known for crazy high numbers; I should take it over there and see what it puts down HAHA!!

yea man. I think if you bump up to a bigger cam, you should easily get a nice gain with those heads youre using.

I hear ya. I was actually thinking it was a bit low myself when we finished the build, but I'm super satisfied! It's freakin fast! I think it also depends on the dyno too. It was on a Dynojet dyno, not a mustang pull. That typically renders lower numbers. There's a dyno guy in town who's known for crazy high numbers; I should take it over there and see what it puts down HAHA!!

Dynojet's usually read higher than Mustang Dynos.. Did you mean it WAS on a mustang dyno and NOT a dynojet?

Dynojet's usually read higher than Mustang Dynos.. Did you mean it WAS on a mustang dyno and NOT a dynojet?

Nope. It was on a Dynojet. Guess that means I'm really at about 320RWHP then, right? =)~

LOL im not saying anything like that, just was clarifying

Just means a bigger cam will bring that car to life like you wouldn't believe. Do you hear a nice lope?

LOL im not saying anything like that, just was clarifying

Just means a bigger cam will bring that car to life like you wouldn't believe. Do you hear a nice lope?

Yeah, it sounds sick! Lopes nicely :)

If you're just curious, here's the vid of my build....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZdYwcTbPIg

Sounds sexy and looks sexy, that is awesome work on the covers and intake!

Where was it dyno'd at? high elevation? Correction? SAE? STD? None?

I saw it on an iPhone, so forgive me if it's obvious lol, cant read any writing.

damn good man way to put that 2010 in its place.

yea man, that ws6 freakin MOVES realllllllly well!

nice vid of your buildup.

Arent the auto 2010s dogs with out a tune or something? i remember hearing their not as fast as the 6 speeds. Not taking anything away from your kill, Im sure that magna cleared up any differences in the trans :D

Arent the auto 2010s dogs with out a tune or something? i remember hearing their not as fast as the 6 speeds. Not taking anything away from your kill, Im sure that magna cleared up any differences in the trans :D

Car was tuned. There are additional tweaks you can do to the paddleshifts to make it not so much of a dog...

I was a bit concerned about being able to hang, but it turned out to be all in the traction. Drag radials are going on the SS this week. Will probably be a whole nuther ballgame then. Plus, my TA is a lot lighter, so weight was a factor there...
500+ pounds lighter is equivelant to 50+rwhp! And your gears really helped, too. Nice kill and nicely edited video!
I hear ya. I was actually thinking it was a bit low myself when we finished the build, but I'm super satisfied! It's freakin fast! I think it also depends on the dyno too. It was on a Dynojet dyno, not a mustang pull. That typically renders lower numbers. There's a dyno guy in town who's known for crazy high numbers; I should take it over there and see what it puts down HAHA!!

Sounds about right for a LS1 build. ?? My experience with ported 243 heads, Fast intake, etc. on a LS1 GTO nets 420rwhp with a 238/242 duration cam. Granted ported 243 heads arent THE BEST, but not many are flowing better.

500+ pounds lighter is equivelant to 50+rwhp! And your gears really helped, too. Nice kill and nicely edited video!


Sounds about right for a LS1 build. ?? My experience with ported 243 heads, Fast intake, etc. on a LS1 GTO nets 420rwhp with a 238/242 duration cam. Granted ported 243 heads arent THE BEST, but not many are flowing better.

GTO's are independent suspension in the rear so that has to take away some power. It all depends on your set up but most HCI cars I see get about 440whp.

The last run was awesome really close.

SS with camera man must have 400-500lbs over WS6.

500+ pounds lighter is equivelant to 50+rwhp! And your gears really helped, too. Nice kill and nicely edited video!


Sounds about right for a LS1 build. ?? My experience with ported 243 heads, Fast intake, etc. on a LS1 GTO nets 420rwhp with a 238/242 duration cam. Granted ported 243 heads arent THE BEST, but not many are flowing better.

Yeah, it was all in the weight difference, and traction of course. 2nd person did add to the weight as well. Head to head it was close.
Thanks for the props on compiling the footage :)

nice runs. that t/a can shift

SWEET RUNS! nice driving in the t\a


i have yet to see a new ss win anything :(

nice runs. that t/a can shift

Thx for the props on the shifting. Was going all good till I went for 5th on that last run haha Driver mod FTL! LOL

Good kills! You know the new Camaro is a fat pig when it can't even beat a car making 80 less rwhp. (referring to the last race where it had traction)

Heads are Dart Pro1 stage 3 heads. I dunno the cam lift or duration; it was in the car when I got it. Apparently it is a small one though

The numbers don't really suprise me. I haven't heard many good things about the Dart heads and the cam is an unknown. That being said, it looks like you have a stout setup there! Great build video!

That's a big girl no matter how much power it has.

Fat chicks need love too:D

Fat chicks need love too:D

If they were gonna make it so heavy they should at least have given it four doors and a trunk that you could get a suit case into. At least I can justify the weight on my family cruiser.

That T/A is BADASS! I might have missed it but what are you running for a cat-back ? Sounds real good.

Nice shifting...kept her right in the powerband. Congrats on the kill! Car sounds sick!!!:thumb:

what kinda camera you using?

That T/A is BADASS! I might have missed it but what are you running for a cat-back ? Sounds real good.

Thanks man!! The exhaust is Hooker LT's into 3" Y pipe back to the Borla exhaust with cutout... Very loud!! :)

what kinda camera you using?

Camaro camera is a digital camera - Sony Cybershot DSC-H1
The dash cam in the TA is an Epic Stealthcam. It's just a tiny cam you can mount anywhere. Quality is marginal, but it frees up your hands for things like rowin the gears ;)

my ta will be finished in the spring,i cant wait to feel 600 plus hp .you got a bad ta there,awesome job.

Nice Vid ! !It must suck having all that power in the new SS and he cant get it to stick .

Nice video. The 413hp some are bashing,it's all in the set up of parts. My ls1 started at 370hp with h&c,(low power)then I ended up with 463hp 414tq from my h&c set up before I went with a 402ci. Nice video,and that camaro is a fat girl. I have no clue why gm keeps making the cars so heavy. Now,why did the camaro seem to hold in the 3rd run got got smoked bad in the other two?

Nice video. The 413hp some are bashing,it's all in the set up of parts. My ls1 started at 370hp with h&c,(low power)then I ended up with 463hp 414tq from my h&c set up before I went with a 402ci. Nice video,and that camaro is a fat girl. I have no clue why gm keeps making the cars so heavy. Now,why did the camaro seem to hold in the 3rd run got got smoked bad in the other two?

The 3rd run was from a higher roll so the SS hooked and caught traction. The first two just got loose since they were from such a slow roll. The DR's on my TA just hooked and launched each time....

BAD ASS cars & good runs. wanna see with that Camaro with some better tires

500+ pounds lighter is equivelant to 50+rwhp!

Where did you get that from? 500lbs in weight reduction is worth a hell of
a lot more than 50rwhp. 50hp is nothing really. That's damned near half
a second off your ET for a 10 second car. 50rwhp isn't going to do that.

Wow the 2010 Camaro is a piece of shit

Where did you get that from? 500lbs in weight reduction is worth a hell of
a lot more than 50rwhp. 50hp is nothing really. That's damned near half
a second off your ET for a 10 second car. 50rwhp isn't going to do that.

They say for every 125lbs of dead weight = 10hp. That is what I've heard.

Wow the 2010 Camaro is a piece of shit

piece of shit....? :confused: please explain more

Wow the 2010 Camaro is a piece of shit

if they raced to something like 140 or so ( if thy had the room) it might have looked like a different race. something like a 60-160 run would have erased at least some of the traction issues either car might have had. either way it was a great vid and that TA sounded great.

Wow the 2010 Camaro is a piece of shit

I'm not too big a fan of it's syling cues or it's weight, but it's one hell of a car IMO.

LS1 is such a fucking beast

Good runs...weight and those big wheels kills...

I don't really see why everyone is so surprised by the results.

On stock tires with 492rwhp that camaro had no hope of traction at 15mph. On top of this in the first two runs the OP clearly steals the hit (you can't even hear the 3rd honk over his car).

The third run was much better, it sounded like he was ready for you that time and he hooked up. I think with no passenger the camaro would edge you out above 100.

Not trying to bash you OP, you have a very nice car and it looks like you can drive it pretty well. Thanks for posting the vid.

The WS6 sounds like a beast and the SS sounds like a lawnmower.

Both nice cars. Way to row those gears on the WS6.



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if they raced to something like 140 or so ( if thy had the room) it might have looked like a different race. something like a 60-160 run would have erased at least some of the traction issues either car might have had. either way it was a great vid and that TA sounded great.

60-160 ?!?!?!?! You got more balls than I do! I'm a nervous wreck driving that fast with those skinnies on the front. Had it to 145max....

60-160 ?!?!?!?! You got more balls than I do! I'm a nervous wreck driving that fast with those skinnies on the front. Had it to 145max....

its the rule of 100. if you do a roll on race you go at a speed and the it isnt done until someone hits the end speed.... or they pull serious buss lengths.

this helps to cure alot of issues with racing without a tree.
1) a minor jump can be excused because if you cant make it up over the span of 100mph and possibly 2 gear changes then it isnt gonna happen.
2) traction issues
3) big turbo slow boost build issues.


but yeah i wouldnt go that fast with skinnes on, roll racing is a way different ball game.

Looked like fun but I saw a lot of driveways and access roads. That is asking for trouble. Be safe out there, surely there are better roads?

bad ass car man loved the graphics under the hood and good kill also

Looked like fun but I saw a lot of driveways and access roads. That is asking for trouble. Be safe out there, surely there are better roads?

No public road is a good road IMO, but I don't own a huge private strip either, so whadya do???? Cops are ridiculous in that county so made it quick and dirty, then took it to the house...

Good runs.

News flash to the nay sayers:

79whp advantage can go away real quick when your talking weight and traction. Its not OPs fault he picked a lighter car and saved some of that engine mod money for TIRES too (wow what a thought!).

But once again we have the shoulda, coulda, woulda crowd wanting a remote control "on paper" race forgetting that driver and what driver does with his mod money other than throw massive HP at street tires is what makes the race. Welcome to the streets people. Spend wisely and drive correctly or get yanked up by stuff thats "not supposed to win on paper".

Wow the 2010 Camaro is a piece of shit

Says the guy with the '95 Mustang GT lol.

Don't care what anyone says over the traction issues the Ws6 did a really nice job showing up the maggie over and over again. The car sounded really healthy. Just goes to prove in the real world light to light.. the dyno queens from magnacharger can't always hold their own against a good head and cam engine with some work.

Really impressed. I would love to see the camaro with heads and a cam lined up against the TA.

Good runs.

News flash to the nay sayers:

79whp advantage can go away real quick when your talking weight and traction. Its not OPs fault he picked a lighter car and saved some of that engine mod money for TIRES too (wow what a thought!).

But once again we have the shoulda, coulda, woulda crowd wanting a remote control "on paper" race forgetting that driver and what driver does with his mod money other than throw massive HP at street tires is what makes the race. Welcome to the streets people. Spend wisely and drive correctly or get yanked up by stuff thats "not supposed to win on paper".



Says the guy with the '95 Mustang GT lol.



I think I like this guy LOL

You guys might not have to wait much longer on the head/cam project...Think that's in the works. The SS got DR's on the rear and picked up 40HP with a CAI, so I'm pretty sure he's got me beat on a high end roll. Maybe I'll still pull off a win from a dig.... Rematch anyone???

492 whp on that tug boat isn't that impressive....

No public road is a good road IMO, but I don't own a huge private strip either, so whadya do???? Cops are ridiculous in that county so made it quick and dirty, then took it to the house...

Limited access and no intersections is the "rule".

492 whp on that tug boat isn't that impressive....

Deep 11s is impressive to most people...

Limited access and no intersections is the "rule".

The State Troopers picked up on that lil philosophy...That's where they sit now :(

Great vids man!!! Stephen at East Texas Muscle Cars does awesome work.

good video thanks. Sounded like your foot was down before 3rd honk, not that it would have changed the result though.

Great vids man!!! Stephen at East Texas Muscle Cars does awesome work.

Yeah, no joke!! You picked up on that, huh? Thought I kept ID's discreet. Me fail LOL

good video thanks. Sounded like your foot was down before 3rd honk, not that it would have changed the result though.

R/T was 0.00007 hahaha :drive:

Yeah, no joke!! You picked up on that, huh? Thought I kept ID's discreet. Me fail LOL

I recognized the shop. lol

That air lid is effin evil

The car sounds evil

The car is just evil period. hahahah:guns: