Negative Trader Feedback - Beware of XplicitPerformance

Ok, here’s my story.

First let me say that I'm a complete moron for waiting two months after buying this part to realize that I got ripped off!! I'm normally a very thorough person when it comes to buying used parts, but in my defenses have no knowledge of stalls, or what to look for.

I bought a (what I thought was a Yank 3600 stall) from XplicitPerformance and what I received was not a Yank 3600 stall.....I have no idea what it is.

Now to the issue.

Here are the PM's between XplicitPerformance and me when I was interested in buying the stall. My PM's to him are blue, and his PM's to me are red. Theses PM's occurred between 8/19/2009 and 8/20/2009.

I saw in a thread, you said you'd sale a yank 3000 stall. Just wondering how much you want for it? Please give me a price shipped to 23601.

THanks,
Tommy


410$ shipped.


Thanks for the quick reply.

How many miles on it?


maybe 8k and 2 passes.


I'm trying to hold out for a 3600 stall. If I can't find anything in a few days, I'll send you a PM.


This is a yank 3600. What size did you think it was??


For some reason I thought it was a 3000.

Would you do $375 shipped?


Nah. I want 410$ shipped anywhere in the 48 states. That includes 3% paypal fees. I have a few people interested at that price and one is supposed to be paypal'ing me soon. Like I told him the first one to paypal me 410$ in my account will get it.


Can't blame me for trying

There's nothing wrong with the stall correct??


no. The car drove fine and even footbraked right around 3200.


Ok, I'll take it.


Shipped it out today.

Tracking number is 1z7r8a790314637620


Thanks man!



When I received the stall I opened the box to make sure I didn't get a box with a rock. There was a stall in the box. Below is what I saw

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj187/tomurphjr/IMG_1312.jpg

So after seeing that, I closed the box and did not open it again until a few days ago (i'll get to that shortly).

Over the next two months, I started collecting other parts for my heads, cam, intake, stall, blah blah blah swap. As of last week, I realized that I'm spending pretty much the same amount of money on parts for the H/C/ect swap as I would for a nice used procharger for my Corvette. With that said, I decided to sell everything and pursue the procharger route.

Earlier this week I post the stall for sale here on LS1tech. I had a user ask me what exactly will it fit. I jumped on Yank's website to see. I noticed while on their site, every one of their stalls is red....ummmm...now I'm wondering why mine is dark blue.
I posted the stall for $475 shipped well knowing that I'm going to get talked down, ect. I would have been happy getting the $410 I paid for it. Here's the link to that thread.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/non-lsx-parts-sale/1194312-yank-ss-3600-stall.html


After realizing that the stall might not be a Yank, I contacted Yank by phone and spoke with (rather not say his name without permission) and asked if he would look at a stall and let me know if it's theirs or not. He said sure, send him a pics. Here is the email I sent to Yank.

Yank,
I’m the guy who spoke to you earlier about wither a converter is yours or not. Could you please take a look at the pic on the link below and let me know it is a Yank convertor or not. It is the only one I currently have, but can take more pics of it when I get home.
Very much appreciated!!!!
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj187/tomurphjr/?action=view&current=IMG_1312.jpg

Yanks response.
Do you have any photo’s of the front side of the converter? From the one you sent me I would have to say no.


After reading that I PM'ed XplicitPerformance. Theses PM's occurred between 10/20/2009 and 10/22/2009

Hey dude, the stall you sold me is not a Yank. After taking pics and verifying with yank, I was told from briefly looking that the pic all there stall are red. The one you sold me is not.

I'd like a full refund and you pay to ship it back to you.


Can you provide documentation? I for one know not all yank converters are red. If they have verified this converter is not a yank we can talk refund.


Exactly what kind of documentation would you like?

This first came about when I went to their website and noticed all the stalls listed are red. So I called them and asked. I then sent an email for them to verify and was told that is not there stall.

well you are telling me you are going off pictures. If there was a problem with this converter it should of been addressed as soon as you received. You are telling me one thing and the shop who installed is saying another. Im just concerned with the 2 months its been. I will be contacting yank.


When you contact yank, ask for NAME as thats who I spoke too.


Well spoke to yank. They said all converters come out red but asked me if its ever been reflashed which it has. Ill find out more info on it. When they reflash they repaint.

He said that is a very likely possibility if it was reflashed.


You never said it's been re-flashed. I would have never bought it if it had been flashed by some unknown company!


How do you want to handle this?


You asked if it was a yank. It is. You asked what it stalled to i told you what it footbraked. I never mislead you. I answered all your questions. I sent you a picture. Its a good functioning converter. I held up my end.

It seems you want your money back and will find a way out. Im not being a prick but after 60 days its your converter. I did not mislead anything. Sell the converter for what you paid. I Sold it as i do not need it. Just because you scrapped your project does not entitle a refunds.


Ok, first let me say that NAME is saying from the one pics I sent him, it does not look like a yank convertor. He wants me to take a pics of the other side and send it to him. I'm going to do that this evening.

I have all the PM's saved. You said it is a "Yank" 3600 stall and that it foot braked at 3200. You never said it had been re-flashed, nor who it was flashed by!

I'm not trying to back out of the deal because I scrapped the project.....me scrapping the project is the only reason I found that it isn't a yank stall or it would probably be in the car by now. I'm a good man; I'm not the type of shady person to go through this headache of a simple $410. Hell, I'm selling all the other parts on LS1tech...I'm not going to those guys saying I want my money back!

You never held up on your end of the deal because the converter is "Not" what you said it was.

I'm not trying to be a prick either, but as far as I'm concerned you owe me a refund because of,

A: the stall is not a Yank converter. I don't care that you say it is....it's been re-flashed....by who at what stall????

B: NAME from yank is saying that from the one pic he is seeing it is NOT a yank converter. I'm just sending him pics for further proof.

We can either do this the easy way, or the hard way.

Easy way, you refund me the entire $410 (without me being charged PayPal fees) and you pay return shipping...I think it was $47-$48 dollars.

Hard way, I contact American Express and notify them of what happened, and then notify PayPal. Then I'm going to post this entire deal up here and get our fellow LS1tech'er opinion on the situation.


your call,

Tommy


Contined next post

Oh, and you never sent me a picture.


You have yet to show me accurate evidence that the converter was not what I said it was. You are going purely off of color.


You asked questions all were answered.


Does it really matter at this point? You admited that the stall had been re-flashed.....I know now that you really have no idea what it was.

You do understand that your first PM says Yank 3600 stall and your PM today says re-flashed stall and that you were going to find more info on it for me?

I'm going to send several more pics to Dave just to give me more proof.


Again, not trying to be a jerk, but you sold me something that you had no idea what it was, and your trying to not make it right.


you are wrong. It is a yank 3600 converter which was not stalling what was wanted. It was reflashed for a more suitable stall speed closer to 3600.

You have your opinion on me and I have mine on you. You not only low balled me on this converter but are selling it for profit now. You can do as you wish. Like I said when you have proof that it is NOT a Yank like you already claimed yet obviously shown that you have no definite proof than by all means shoot me an email instead of acting childish and threatening me. You have yet to prove your case.


I posted that thread yesterday before I realized that yank stalls are red. I'm taking the post down now...and I posted it for $450 because I know how people like to deal. I was well aware what I was doing. If I got back what I paid, I'd be happy.

Ok, we'll see exactly what NAME says.

By the way, who flashed it? Do you have paperwork??

I don't give false threats.


Ok, below is the email i got from NAME. If you want to call him, please do! I expect a full refund, and money for return shipping. The pic he sent me as well as the photo's I took of the stall you sent me below his email.

Below is from NAME.

Thomas that is defiantly not one of our converters. We use solid billet front covers on our stuff that converter has a stock converter cover on it with some pads welded to it for the bolt circle. I cannot tell you on the mileage it looks pretty bad to me from the photos. Attached is a photo of one of my front covers look at the difference.

Yank's Cover
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj187/tomurphjr/4l80ETruckCover001.jpg


The stall you sent me.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj187/tomurphjr/IMG_1316.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj187/tomurphjr/IMG_1317.jpg


I can not issue a refund. You have waited 2 months since the purchase in which I emailed you to confirm everything was fine before the funds were removed. I think you should contact paypal and dispute with them and let them decide. For these past two months I have no clue what has gone on with this converter and I could not resell it as I did before in good functioning order as I do not know whats gone thru it or where its been stored. I have contacted admins and I am awaiting there instructions.


I see you've changed your tune on you saying that you'd give me a refund if I gave you proof. Per NAME, it looks to be a stock stall with pads welded on it. There's your proof....wheres my money??

Not that it matters, but you never send me a message after you received payment.

The stall has been in the box in my garage since I've received it.

Look, save us both the headache and refund me the money. You know that stall is not a Yank stall.

If you don't refund the money, I'm contacting american express and paypal to file a complaint as well as post this ordeal here on LS1tech.


I have already contacted LS1tech. They informed me that its a done deal after 2 months. You have already contacted paypal. I have been informed that any negative feedback will be reversed.

For you to tell me thats a stock converter is LOL. I know it is not a stock converter. I drove the car and had a stock converter side by side. GL on ur disputes. Now please do not contact me any further on this matter. I will consider this harassment and fwd all messages to ls1tech admins.


I have no idea what kind of converter it is. I know that it's not a Yank 3600.

I've already filed a claim with American Express and will post our entire communication here on LS1tech.

I've also been advised to fill a report with your local police dept.


that is fine. Do what you need to. I have already spoke to staff here and they informed to let them know when you post anything and it will be removed. If there was a problem with the converter it should of been handled along time ago. I know for a fact it is a good working converter and I described it to the best of my knowledge. Once you received it it was your duty to look it over and if you had any disputes to email me then.

I remember PMing you to confirm you received it as well. Now stop threatening me and do what you have to.


Will do. Have a good sir. I've contacted an adim on LS1tech as well.





Well folks there it is in its entirety!! I know I'm an idiot for waiting two months, but I honestly had no idea it wasn't a Yank stall! If I hadn’t noticed, I would have sold it to someone else and look at the mess that would have caused me and the person I sold it too.

I have filed a dispute with American Express. Paypal did nothing because it’s been longer than 45 days. I'm not sure if I'll get my money back.

I just want everyone reading this to watch out for this guy and if you buy something from him, check it thoroughly!

Sorry for the long post!

Tommy

Here is his original for sale thread listing the Yank stall.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/non-lsx-parts-sale/1162965-10-bolt-body-parts-built-4l60-yank-converter.html

that sucks man, hope you get your money back through AE, Paypal sucks when it comes to dealing with scammers and it's bee documented over and over that the scammer usually wins due to the way paypal conducts itself.

Worst comes to worst, can I file a police report with his local police dept based on the info I provided? If I can, what route should I take?

This will be my only posts on this topic. I described the converter to the best of my knowledge. We purchased the car with this converter and the owner told us what it was. I sold it to you not only after I drove the car to confirm it stalled what was supposed to and functioned properly. I shipped it out in one day after paypal received.

Two months have gone by and you want money back? I have no clue whats gone on with this converter for two months. You could have installed it low on fluid and beat on it and burned it up and now want a refund. Like I said your best bet is to go thru paypal or AE.

Good luck sir.

Damn this sucks, hope you get your money back. And to think, im trying to buy a used yank on here.

http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx

This will be my only posts on this topic. I described the converter to the best of my knowledge. We purchased the car with this converter and the owner told us what it was. I sold it to you not only after I drove the car to confirm it stalled what was supposed to and functioned properly. I shipped it out in one day after paypal received.

Two months have gone by and you want money back? I have no clue whats gone on with this converter for two months. You could have installed it low on fluid and beat on it and burned it up and now want a refund. Like I said your best bet is to go thru paypal or AE.

Good luck sir.

I don't care that you confirmed what it stalled at. What I bought was a Yank 3600 stall, not you verification that it stalls...period. Maybe YOU should have verified exactly what it was before you sold it to me. But, I'm the idiot for not know what I had or didn't have! I'm sorry it's been two months, but that still doesn't make it right! If this was the other way around, I'd give you your money back because that the right thing to do.

The stall was never installed. Here are some recent threads of me looking for someone to install it, and another thread of me asking about shift points with the stall without a tune.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/eastern-members/1179174-hampton-roads-looking-get-torque-converter-installed.html

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/automatic-transmission/1175546-stall-question.html

You said in a PM that if I showed you proof that you'd refund me the money. I gave you proof and still nothing!

The purpose of this thread is to notify as may people on here to be carefully when buying something from you. I'm going to bump this thread everyday until the admins get tired of seeing it and lock it.

Obviously you need the money more than I do.

http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx

Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for.

What a horrible way to do business....I will make sure I tell everyone I know about this company. You know you sold him a converter that was not what you described, you should pay him his money back. I hope the op has also put this info on the local boards where this company is. It doesn't matter if the op filed the converter to metal shavings, you sold him something that was clearly not what you described it to be.

Dang man GL, I hope it all works out for you.

Hey guys, I appreciate the responses in my favor, but I fear if there is bashing going on outside of the seller and I, this thread will get closed and long forgotten before it should.

Again, thanks allot. It makes me feel better know that others agree with me.

Sorry to be so blatantly upset with this, but this is just the kind of transaction you don't expect from a legitimate business. Good luck man.

I will note never buy anything from them. I dunno if they realize what bad publicity will do to a company...def not worth the $410 it would have been to correct the issue.

Sorry to be so blatantly upset with this, but this is just the kind of transaction you don't expect from a legitimate business. Good luck man.

A appreciate your responce, and please spread the word.

I just don't want this to get locked. Really, thanks again for your voice!

i'd be pissed, im surprised your handling it so professionally. GL with getting your money back

.

Thanks for your reply, I really appreciate it!

i'd be pissed, im surprised your handling it so professionally. GL with getting your money back

It's hard to stay calm, but being an internet tuff guy doesn't really get you anywere. :punch:

A appreciate your responce, and please spread the word.

I just don't want this to get locked. Really, thanks again for your voice!

No problem man. I really think the admins on this site know the importance of keeping this thread alive, this isn't just your everyday scammer getting a few dollars, this is a BUSINESS doing it on their site after all.

Thanks for your reply, but please no more bashing. If I knew this thread wouldn't get locked because of the bashing, I'd say have at it!! But, as we all know, it will.

Edit your post. I edited mine to keep it civil.

I never mislead you.....thats laughable....

yes you did...its not a yank...
pay the guy his money back........
just because somebody said, hey there is a yank 3600 stall in that car that you just bought does not mean there is one...you should of checked before you sold it...that aint no yank.....i have had a few of them.

sorry you believed the guy you bought the car from,but that does not give you the right to screw someone just because that guy said its a yank & you want to sell it for a yank.

I thought that Yank kept records of the who, what, where and when on their converters, for the warranty and restall options? Gonna buy mine from the manufacturer. And I will be checking it out as soon as it arrives. :ripped:

Edit your post. I edited mine to keep it civil.

Done. Thanks!

I never mislead you.....thats laughable....

yes you did...its not a yank...
pay the guy his money back........
just because somebody said, hey there is a yank 3600 stall in that car that you just bought does not mean there is one...you should of checked before you sold it...that aint no yank.....i have had a few of them.

sorry you believed the guy you bought the car from,but that does not give you the right to screw someone just because that guy said its a yank & you want to sell it for a yank.

Exactly! Per Yank....it looks to have a stock cover with pads welded for the bolt holes.

I PM'ed the mod I spoke to to see if I could post this thread link in the Texas section. Waiting to see what he says.

assuming we are a business is wrong.

2nd of all two months have gone by. You name one business that offers a refund after 2 months.

3rd of all I bought the converter with a car. We were told it was a yank as well.

Good day.

assuming we are a business is wrong.

2nd of all two months have gone by. You name one business that offers a refund after 2 months.

3rd of all I bought the converter with a car. We were told it was a yank as well.

Good day.

"If they have verified this converter is not a yank we can talk refund."

Those are YOUR words to the op. Well, it's been verified, where's his refund?

I have filled a complaint with www.ic3.gov.

Per approval from an Admin.

This thread was post in the Texas section where XplicitPerformance is local too.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/texas-members/1196366-please-beware-xplicitperformance.html

I'll see if admins care if I post this on the GTO forum.

What a tool.

3rd of all I bought the converter with a car. We were told it was a yank as well.


It doesn't matter what you were told, you advertised it and sold it as a yank, and it wasn't. Refund him.

That sux, I hope this guy refunds your money. Reminds of what happened with Brian2006

2nd of all two months have gone by. You name one business that offers a refund after 2 months.

any good business would if they mislead the buyer & sent something that was not as advertised.......and later found out about it...its your fault not the buyers.you wrote the for sale ad......

3rd of all I bought the converter with a car. We were told it was a yank as well.

hey i have a low mileage 2000 camaro with a fresh 427 with a stage 6 tranny & 9" for cheap.....sorry no reciepts or nothing you just have to take my word for it....you interested at $6500???? so you would list all of the above parts for sale by my word alone,with out verfication?????? :eek2:

I hope the mods put a warning under this guys username, i've seen them do it before.

I will look into posting this on the LSXNation and WHM forums here in Houston for ya!

I will look into posting this on the LSXNation and WHM forums here in Houston for ya!

Thank you!

Humm... not the first time I guess someone from Xplicit has had this problem.

http://www.westsidemustangs.com/foru...?topic=89444.0

If you not a member over there, same thing happened. Sold rockers as crane, which were not, plus didn't fit, and wouldn't refund money.

You should also go ahead and post negative feedback for this guy.

Thanks for the heads up! No business expected from me with these people for sure! You handled this very good indeed!

First: It was not a Yank and was proved by the company.
Second: You said that if the company confirmed this you could consider a refund, KNOWING it was two months later...now you come with this?? Nice way of doing business, bud...Agree with the negative feedback!

You should also go ahead and post negative feedback for this guy.

I already gave him positive feedback. I did that the day I received the stall.

I've asked the admin I PM'ed if it can be turned over. Waiting to hear back on that.

That proves (to me) that you had good intentions all this time...until you found out you were screwed. Good luck man!

wow, thanks for the heads up on this guy...

im surely not buying n e thing from him thanks 4 the heads up OP

assuming we are a business is wrong.

2nd of all two months have gone by. You name one business that offers a refund after 2 months.

3rd of all I bought the converter with a car. We were told it was a yank as well.

Good day.Dude are you stupid? It does not matter what you were told, the fact is it is NOT a yank converter. You listed and sold it as a yank converter, which is 100% false. How can you justify that it anyway? Now your trying to play it off as if you are concerned about what he has done with the converter when you know damn well it has been sitting in his garage. Unless you refund his money you are no better than all the other low rent trashy people who scam good hard working people out of their money. Man up and give him a refund, that is NOT a yank converter.

Ihave a yank 3000 on the 35th SS and verified it. it is red before it went in.I have a yank 4000SS in my parts locker and it is red also.that thier picture your showing to the op is not a yank converter and it looks cheap with those welds.

XplicitPerformance you put all that work into defending your buddy darkdemon, and now look at you, your just as worthless as him. Good luck selling things now buddy!

Corvettelover...thanks for the heads up man, good luck on getting your money back!

you got to be careful when buying things over the internet, personally if i cant drive to see it and hand over cash, i wont buy it....too many shady people out there trying to make a quick buck....

im surely not buying n e thing from him thanks 4 the heads up op

x2!!!

I already gave him positive feedback. I did that the day I received the stall.

I've asked the admin I PM'ed if it can be turned over. Waiting to hear back on that.

Funny this thread popped up... I picked up a hood from this guy(XplicitPerformance) about 5 months ago... He advertised it as a WS6 hood. He told me it came off of his brothers T/A. Me, never seeing one OFF the car, I bought it because it looked like a WS6 hood to me... Well come to find out it was an SLP HO hood... Not that it really mattered because I never used the hood and sold it for what i paid for it.
But he lied about what the hood was and where it came from, if it really did come off of his brothers T/A ANYONE one with ANY knowledge about these cars would know that is was NOT a WS6 hood... I thought about leaving him bad feedback for selling me something different than what was advertised. BUT, I left him positive feedback before i figured out what the hood really was...

If you had been able to reverse the feedback to negative, you may have stopped the op of this post from buying the converter from this POS. You should still look into flipping your feedback to negative. Might save somebody else the hassle of getting ripped by this broke loser.

No problem man. I really think the admins on this site know the importance of keeping this thread alive, this isn't just your everyday scammer getting a few dollars, this is a BUSINESS doing it on their site after all.

lol.........XP is not a business, it's a website. hope everything works out for the OP. my personal opinion, it may or may not have been an honest mistake on the seller's part, but should be refunded regardless. just my .02

its been posted on some local sites where he posts aswell

IKanKerr

its been posted on some local sites where he posts aswell

IKanKerr

Good to hear, thanks.

Is there a link to this thread?

Good to hear, thanks.

Is there a link to this thread?

i put it in a site announcement and in my signature a link to this page

IKanKerr

i put it in a site announcement and in my signature a link to this page

IKanKerr

ok, thanks again!

wow just wow!!!

This explains A LOT! There's a "Beware of Darkdemon" thread here too. Darkdemon sold a bunch of parts on here. Took the money and ran off on his honeymoon to Florida. After about 30 darkdemon bashing posts, Xplicitperformance starts saying that he's buddies with Darkdemon and begins to defend him. He says that it was just a missunderstanding and that as soon as Darkdemon decides to come back from Florida, he'll start shipping out the parts.

Xplicitperformance, it's like I was telling you in the Darkdemon post...It doesn't surprise me that you're friends with him. You both are shady characters. You definitely belong together!

I agreed to pay for return shipping if the seller would refund me the $410. I'll even drop the Internet Crime Center complain as well as the Amex dispute. I'll just have to wait and see what he decides to do.

I agreed to pay for return shipping if the seller would refund me the $410. I'll even drop the Internet Crime Center complain as well as the Amex dispute. I'll just have to wait and see what he decides to do.

Don't pay shipping, this guy owes you every cent back. I had to deal with someone like this last year. I would talk to a supervisor with your CC company. They can revers the charges and you can just toss the stall in the trash lol.

x2 dont you pay returning shipping....its his fault.....he is the shady one .....

Ya. I wouldnt pay that POS another dime. You handled it alot better than I would have. I would have found him and stuck a size 13 up his A$$

I won't be around a computer until tomorrow afternoon (Going to Eagles/Redskins game). Hopefully "Dru" will have wised up by then and refunded me my money.

I dont think this guy is going to do anything at all. Like that dark demon guy, he hasnt shown his face again.

He says its not a shop but, i remember a while back, he was looking for someone who has been thru "the tuning school" course to work for him.

Funny this thread popped up... I picked up a hood from this guy(XplicitPerformance) about 5 months ago... He advertised it as a WS6 hood. He told me it came off of his brothers T/A. Me, never seeing one OFF the car, I bought it because it looked like a WS6 hood to me... Well come to find out it was an SLP HO hood... Not that it really mattered because I never used the hood and sold it for what i paid for it.
But he lied about what the hood was and where it came from, if it really did come off of his brothers T/A ANYONE one with ANY knowledge about these cars would know that is was NOT a WS6 hood... I thought about leaving him bad feedback for selling me something different than what was advertised. BUT, I left him positive feedback before i figured out what the hood really was...


You did not pick up anything. I delivered to you. It was on a Ws6 car. How did I lie about the hood? I told you it was not an OEM Ws6 ram air hood and even brought it to show you before you bought it. Not only that I called ahead of time to alert you of a crack I found before I even drove to your location to deliver the hood. Such a raw deal :( My buddy even wanted the hood after I had already told you it was yours. I sold it to you cause you had 1st "dibs"

He says its not a shop but, i remember a while back, he was looking for someone who has been thru "the tuning school" course to work for him.

where was this? Show me a post.

where was this? Show me a post.

who cares!!!

Refund the dude his money! you SCAMMED him.
(I'm surprised tech still allows this tool to be on here)

Not having read through all of this mess...

IMO, you should not purchase a part for that kind of money without pics to verify it is what it is. Its just one of the things you do when you are doing business online. That is unless you are purchasing brand new parts. If they can't send pics, and you don't know who they are personally, then don't buy it, simple as that.

I've got people asking for pics of a $20 part and I'll send them if I've got the time.

Then on top of that, you waited 2 months to verify it was what you wanted. Hate to say it, but you're in the wrong hobby or doing it the wrong way when you pick up a part and can't verify it yourself or have buddies verify it when you get it.

It was on a Ws6 car.

so this makes all parts WS6 parts? so if i make a card board cowl hood and put it on there its a WS6 hood right? i wouldnt be lieing b/c its on a WS6.... :gruffy:

stop being a deuchfag and just give the man his money back. im sure some day you will get the shit end of the stick and i hope its on something like a house that caves in on your sorry ass as you are sleeping.

I went as far to offer to pay for return shipping and still nothing.

I was kinda looking forward to video taping everything from showing the stall, to packing it, to driving it to UPS, to handing it over to UPS and posting it here..lol

Oh well, I'll just let the people I reported it to take it and determine the outcome.

wow whatever rep this guy had is long gone... he probably could give a part away here...

A reputable company would refund the $$$ on the TC ( maybe minus S&H) or split it 50/50 after it comes to light the TC was not as advertised…shame on any company for not doing minimal homework prior to the resell to verify what they were selling…..
IMHO, there is some contributory negligence on the buyer for not insisting on pics and asking the right questions………..a lesson well learned I bet eh Tom!

A reputable company would refund the $$$ on the TC ( maybe minus S&H) or split it 50/50 after it comes to light the TC was not as advertised…shame on any company for not doing minimal homework prior to the resell to verify what they were selling…..
IMHO, there is some contributory negligence on the buyer for not insisting on pics and asking the right questions………..a lesson well learned I bet eh Tom!

You betya Steve.

I hate Scammers.... you deserve a refund.

refund him the money.
its NOT a yank, it was REFLSHED with other COMPANIES INTERNALS and LABOR

YANKS rep is not online, its the reflashing company

assuming we are a business is wrong.

2nd of all two months have gone by. You name one business that offers a refund after 2 months.

3rd of all I bought the converter with a car. We were told it was a yank as well.

Good day.

Garden Ridge offers refunds up to 60 days with receipt
SAMS and Costco offer refunds up to 1 year with receipt, store credit without
JEGS offers up to 1 year

Just a few that offer refunds that are businesses......

Just because you were told something doesn't make it right. That's just like saying, "Jump off this cliff, it's only 10 feet, you will survive", when really it's 1,000 feet and you know your gonna die.

Good luck corvettelover!

Garden Ridge offers refunds up to 60 days with receipt
SAMS and Costco offer refunds up to 1 year with receipt, store credit without
JEGS offers up to 1 year

Just a few that offer refunds that are businesses......

Just because you were told something doesn't make it right. That's just like saying, "Jump off this cliff, it's only 10 feet, you will survive", when really it's 1,000 feet and you know your gonna die.

Good luck corvettelover!

this was not sold as a business. Last time I checked used performance parts came with no refunds.

Corvettelover let me know when you get something rolling on your end. I have alerted my local authorities and my attorney.

this was not sold as a business. Last time I checked used performance parts came with no refunds.

Corvettelover let me know when you get something rolling on your end. I have alerted my local authorities and my attorney.

let you know when I get something rolling my end?

Have you been reading any of this? I've had "my end rolling" since last Friday.

Like I said in the other thread,

Shoot me a PM and I'll send you my number to give to your attorney. You don't have a leg to stand on.

If your trying to scare me, you not! I have every right to receive a refund.

Did you tell your local authorities that a guy is stating facts on an internet forum and you don't like it? Or did you lie to them as well?

let you know when I get something rolling my end?

Have you been reading any of this? I've had " my end rolling" since last Friday.

Like I said in the other thread,

Shoot me a PM and I'll send you my number to give to your attorney. You don't have a leg to stand on.

If your trying to scare me, you not! I have every right to receive a refund.

Did you tell your local authorities that a guy is stating fact on an internet forum and you don't like it? Or did you lie to them as well?


Lie? I have no need to lie. 2+ months ownership on a used product LOL

Good day. You have my email and the ability to PM.

Lie? I have no need to lie. 2+ months ownership on a used product LOL

Good day. You have my email and the ability to PM.

lol...you have a good day as well :cheers:

hope you get your money back Corvettelover

let you know when I get something rolling my end?

Have you been reading any of this? I've had "my end rolling" since last Friday.

Like I said in the other thread,

Shoot me a PM and I'll send you my number to give to your attorney. You don't have a leg to stand on.

If your trying to scare me, you not! I have every right to receive a refund.

Did you tell your local authorities that a guy is stating facts on an internet forum and you don't like it? Or did you lie to them as well?

Agree.

You have handle this quite well and truly think you should continue to pursue legal action. As a community we should give you support and continue to spread the word about this guy and every other similar scam artist we come along.

Good luck man!

Lie? I have no need to lie. 2+ months ownership on a used product ( advertised as something it wasnt!!! ) LOL

Good day. You have my email and the ability to PM.

LOL?? I bet a lot will be in the end...except you...

Lie? I have no need to lie. 2+ months ownership on a used product LOL

Good day. You have my email and the ability to PM.

damn right you lied....it aint no yank like you advertised it....so yes thats a lie & you also lied about paying him back if its proven to not be a yank.....:sack:

2 months on a product you lied about,i dont care if he had it for 6 months .....it still aint a yank like you described....and he did not use it....so i dont know what your crying about 2 months for....sell what you advertise you low life....:ripped:

how old are you???? you need to grow the f--k up!!!! :eek2:

As a community we should give you support and continue to spread the word about this guy and every other similar scam artist we come along.

Good luck man!

I agree sir. No one deserves to get taken...wither it be me or someone else.

corvettelover.....you still have his address??? you should ship him a brown paper bag full of shit and tell him its reeses...but they melted. just a thought!!!

this was not sold as a business. Last time I checked used performance parts came with no refunds.

Corvettelover let me know when you get something rolling on your end. I have alerted my local authorities and my attorney.

haha what a lil girl u are. I don't know u and don't care but this sale u did was b.s. The product is not what u advertised and u clearly knew it wasn't a yank. I hope u get it 10x worst.

give the guy a refund, you knew damn good and well that wasn't a YANK stall when you put it up for sale!...anyone that knows anything about performance automatic parts knows that all YANKS have billet back covers! How can you even use the excuse "thats what we were told"...how can you have "performance" in your screen name and not know these kinds of things?!?!

to the OP, I do feel that you deserve a refund, however I also feel that you should have researched YANK stalls before purchasing this one, that way when it arrived and you opened it, you would have immediately called and waved the BS flag on it being a YANK. I hope you get your money back and remember to always research before you buy stuff!

oh and my YANK 3600....is red with 6 mounting flanges just like all the others...that looks to be a TCI stall or some other brand, there are only a few that use the stock style back cover.

the problem is from a court point of view, there were no pics shared before corvettelover bought the stall, so they won't have any evidence as to what Xplicit really sent... I'm just hoping Xplicit would stand by a mans word, give him the cash back and call it case closed..

it's kinda worrying how bad calling someone out on the internet can ruin their reputation in real life... damn!

All,

The other thread was locked because it got out of hand (I assume). Please keep the basking out of this thread as I don't want it to get locked as well.

Thanks for understanding.

I've PM'ed the admin I've been talking to the whole time and asked if the other thread (texas section) can be a sticky but remain closed. Waiting to hear back.

this was not sold as a business. Last time I checked used performance parts came with no refunds.

Corvettelover let me know when you get something rolling on your end. I have alerted my local authorities and my attorney.

im gonna call your bluff on this... even if you did talk to one you will in the end pay well over the money you owe this man. real smart move on your part bud...

you said stuff like this before saying that the admins would delete all of corvettelovers post if he posted about the issue.... i havent seen anything deleted.

mods i have a gig against m b/c i had a sig that was too big and never actually got a chance to ever change it b4 i got a gig or w/e its called but this guy can scam and have nothing against him? how are yall letting this scammer stay on here?

good luck bro!

Wow Dru it sounds like you're in a bit of a pickle.

wow you are way calmer than i would be if you get your money back i would use it to buy a ticket and give him a size 13 kick in the ass after all of this :devil:

:corn:

Nothing much else to up date on. I've gotten pretty much all the info I need on him. Thanks to this site and google! I've given all the info to who I need to about this issue, so all I can do at this point is wait and see what happens.

Just saw this thread.

I sold him a part months ago, he made me run all over town and wait over an hour for him while him and his brother were looking at cars. He wasn't where he said he would be, then I finally met him at an ATM, and he didn't have all the money. I said screw it, I'm not going to waste hours of my time and get nothing, so I sold him the part. A few weeks later he had the part listed on this site for more than I sold it to him for.

He's a grade A tool.

Someone on another forum mentioned it looks like a Daaco converter. I searched google images and sure enough...it's a Daaco.

http://www.daccoinc.com/index.cfm

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

Linky no workie

Linky no workie


Fixed.

So..its a remanufactured, basically stock converter? What a tool!!

XplicitPerformance you put all that work into defending your buddy darkdemon, and now look at you, your just as worthless as him. Good luck selling things now buddy!

Corvettelover...thanks for the heads up man, good luck on getting your money back!

This explains A LOT! There's a "Beware of Darkdemon" thread here too. Darkdemon sold a bunch of parts on here. Took the money and ran off on his honeymoon to Florida. After about 30 darkdemon bashing posts, Xplicitperformance starts saying that he's buddies with Darkdemon and begins to defend him. He says that it was just a missunderstanding and that as soon as Darkdemon decides to come back from Florida, he'll start shipping out the parts.

Xplicitperformance, it's like I was telling you in the Darkdemon post...It doesn't surprise me that you're friends with him. You both are shady characters. You definitely belong together!

These gentlemen are 100% correct.

this was not sold as a business. Last time I checked used performance parts came with no refunds.

You, obviously, don't operate a legitmate business, as you stated. But, it goes without saying, anytime money exchanges hands is considered business. Pay the man the money you owe him and you may be able to salvage some type of decent reputation. Or don't, and you, along with DarkDemon, won't be able to sell a nut & bolt for a nickel. The choice is yours to make.

To the O.P., continue to hold your ground. And don't ever back down one inch from people like this. Good luck, man.

Make sure to print EVERYTHING and organize it neatly. Threads, PM's, emails, shipping receipts, phone logs, text messages, bank account/paypal statements...the more, the better.

Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get something hard from Yank stating it isn't one of their converters. I don't know what other communication you've had with them but whatever it would take for them to send you some paperwork that says they guarantee 100% it's NOT their converter.

It sucks that this happened to you, nothing worse than getting screwed over by someone else. But as some others have said, you did drop the ball when you let 2 months go by without anything more than taking a peek at the converter. Nevertheless, fraud is fraud.

I hope you get your money back. :)

so xplicit sent you a $350 daco & told you it was a yank valued at $700+....

scammer alert .........

paypal should make eveyone build up a deposit in their acct(paying interest to the hoder of that acct)and give a rating based on how much is on deposit and this would take care of alot of this crap,paypal is a sham and a scam and needs fixing

Pictures are a must before buying should have been a dead giveaway that it wasn't a yank.

Good luck!

You, obviously, don't operate a legitmate business, as you stated.


If you go to the web forum in his sig, he has a business selling and installing performance parts on cars. If he can do that he should be able to figure out what piece of equipment is in his hands. I also find it funny that if this was such a great deal, why didnt he offer it up to the people local to his forum?

Here is another link where this is being discussed. In this thread there is a link to a for sale thread where he had the same stall for sale. He edited "yank" out if the thread and was called out on it. Funny things is he can't edit the title and it still says yank.

http://www.htownracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43048


He does have a business selling parts. http://xplicitperformance.ecrater.com/

The site hasn't been updated since April. I've notified the BBB.

Here is another link where this is being discussed. In this thread there is a link to a for sale thread where he had the same stall for sale. He edited "yank" out if the thread and was called out on it. Funny things is he can't edit the title and it still says yank.

http://www.htownracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43048


He does have a business selling parts. http://xplicitperformance.ecrater.com/

The site hasn't been updated since April. I've notified the BBB.

Wonderful move sir!:engarde::D:cheers:

Here’s a thread on westsidemustangs showing that he deleted the thread on their site since he's an admin over there. He obviously has nothing to hide. :eyes:

http://www.westsidemustangs.com/forums/index.php?topic=93480.0

I live in Alvin Texas and have never seen this company....Maybe its just a person and not a business....Where are they located @ in Alvin, Texas:lurk:

Wow that sux dude, He should not have posted a name of a converter if he wasnt sure. He did state that if you provided info that it wasnt a yank he would refund,and he re renigged on that too. I really hope that you get a refund. Do you still have the packing, file a small calims against him in his county. Karma will get him eventually.

He's a grade A tool.

I'm sure that means a lot, coming from a grade A tool

Here is another link where this is being discussed. In this thread there is a link to a for sale thread where he had the same stall for sale. He edited "yank" out if the thread and was called out on it. Funny things is he can't edit the title and it still says yank.

http://www.htownracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43048


He does have a business selling parts. http://xplicitperformance.ecrater.com/

The site hasn't been updated since April. I've notified the BBB.

someone posted it on my site too

http://www.lsxnation.net/showthread.php?t=7670

I'm sure that means a lot, coming from a grade A tool



someone posted it on my site too

http://www.lsxnation.net/showthread.php?t=7670

Thanks for posting the that link.

Wow that sux dude, He should not have posted a name of a converter if he wasnt sure. He did state that if you provided info that it wasnt a yank he would refund,and he re renigged on that too. I really hope that you get a refund. Do you still have the packing, file a small calims against him in his county. Karma will get him eventually.

With the avenues I've gone down, I don't think it will go as far as me filing a small claims against him. But, if it comes to that, I will.

I live in Alvin Texas and have never seen this company....Maybe its just a person and not a business....Where are they located @ in Alvin, Texas:lurk:

They are trying to be a business. In a garage but I guess hoping to build a shop. Still, when you tout being able to do anything performance related (UPR dealer, say they will do engine/transmission work) you should know what part is in your hand, especially when you sell it.


HAHA, the linked site in his profile is gone.

With the avenues I've gone down, I don't think it will go as far as me filing a small claims against him. But, if it comes to that, I will.

Hey man, any updates?

Hey man, any updates?

Well, American Express is reviewing the issues as well as MAKING PayPal look into it. (I love my Amex card for so many reasons and this being one of them). The person from Amex said that if it's decided in my favor, they will refund me the money and go after the seller themselves ( I bet they have a crap load of lawyers just sitting around waiting for stuff like this). I was also told that since PayPal is being forced to look into the issue and if they (PayPal) decides in my favor, they will try and recover the money for Amex. If the funds are not there, the account will be suspended.

I've spoke to someone from the Internet Crime Complaint Center and was told they are looking into the issue and thanked me for all the documentation I gave them. I was told it takes time because of all the other cases they are currently investigating.


I do have a few other things in the works, but would rather not mention them at this time.

I received a PM saying that Dru (xplicitperformance) was removed as a mod over on westsidemustangs for deleting the post about this issue over there.

Just one of many dissappointments in his life i'm sure.

Updates?

I see that xplicitperformance is still active on this forum...mods what gives? Suspend this guy already the community has spoken.

Updates?

Nothing really to update on as of yet. I'll post up as soon as something new developes.

I see that xplicitperformance is still active on this forum...mods what gives? Suspend this guy already the community has spoken.

I second that. No reason for this guy to be in our community...... Can we get a response from the mods?

I guess not.....