Corvette Performance - Allngn_c5 visits D&D Performance (Walsh Motorsports) Wixom, MI

First off I'd like to thank Ron@Vengeance for getting me the RPM stg III Diff so quickly. Like the saying goes, its not always what you know, sometimes its who you know.

Anyways as many of you know I went to Milan Dragway 3 times. No breakage in 6 passes on visit one. Blown clutch after run 9 on visit 2. Replaced with RPS street twin lite. 3rd visit on a sweet launch and a 1.71 60 ft time I cracked the diff case spilling all my freshly changed gear lube all over the side of the track. That wasn't it, I also broke the trans output shaft and blew a couple seals I guess.

It was not a cost effective plan to send the car to Ron@Vengeance, and I talked to the boys at BAKER Performance (very nice and professional) but after finding out that Donnie Walsh of D&D Performance was now doing Corvettes and Mustangs I decided to talk to him about the needed work. Donnie agreed to fix my baby for me. After dropping it off last Monday they got her apart and thats when I found out that I had hurt more then just the diff. Donnie assured me that my car was in good hands and not to worry. He explained all my options and helped me to make an informed decision on what to do. Bottom line very nice guy, and easy to get in touch with.

Donnie went thru the trans and listed everything that he found wrong with it. 2nd gear was trashed, 1-2 slider needs replaced, full synchro kit, new seals, upgraded all shift forks and a gForce hardened output shaft. So basically 10-12 hrs labor, 350 for the trans inspection/rebuild included plus parts. All in all my bill is going to be about 3100 tax included (this doesn't include the stg III diff from RPM that I supplied courtesy of Ron@Vengeance). Considering that my trans is being completely rebuilt with all the upgrades that come in many other top end trannies I feel I am getting a lot done for the price. Again thank you very much to Donnie Walsh and D&D Performance (Tech Sponsors) for being so easy to work with on getting my car in and serviced. Can't wait until she's done.

Stay tuned for my impressions on how the new tranny / diff feel. Should be in a few days.
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D&D was selected over Baker mainly due to location. 20 minutes from my house vs 3+ hrs. Going out there today after I get out of work to go over the bill and get an idea how much longer before she's ready to get back on the road.

Just found out that I'll be able to pickup the car tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want to drive it...

Great call on D&D. I have one of their T-56's in my 93 Trans Am and that thing has held up to some ABUSE.

I want to drive it...

Great call on D&D. I have one of their T-56's in my 93 Trans Am and that thing has held up to some ABUSE.

Thanks guys. All I can say is that its going to be a long day at work !!

I hope I don't get offered Afternoon shift OT, if I do then I'll have to put off picking up black beauty until tomorrow.

Spoke with Donnie yesterday. I'm glad he's a patient individual. He took the time to explain his answers to my questions and after talking to him I felt 1000% sure that I will be happy when I pick up the car.

Just waiting for my ride, going to pick her up in a few minutes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I just got back from a gentle drive to get some breakin miles on the newly rebuilt trans, and new diff. All I can say is that the shifting is like night and day. Considering the abuse the car has taken since I bought it, I truly had no idea how bad the tranny had gotten. Now having driven the car post trans rebuild all I can say is that it is like night and day. 1000% improvement.

I got about 440 miles to go before I can get on it like I want to !!!!!

Wanted to make sure everyone knows how to find Donnie. D&D is the front end of the business, and Walsh Motorsports is the back end where Donnie is. 248 735 5555 Wixom, MI. Father and Son. Thanks again to Donnie Walsh for doing such a good job getting my car back on the road. Also thank you so much for taking the time to show me all the worn out parts and explaining what/why something was warn out. You really helped me to understand the issues I was dealing with prior to the rebuild.

I'll be back for a visit once she's got the break in miles. Great job, at a great price.

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Put another 50 miles on it tonight. She feels even better. Can't wait for some spirited driving. Babying the car sucks, but I will do as instructed. First 500 miles take it easy

Gonna be able to make any more track passes this year?

Why do you need to break in a new tranny? Dont new cars come with new trannys! I break everything in like I drive them with no problems ever. (except the 00 SS-broke the rear gears)

Gonna be able to make any more track passes this year?

Don't know if I can afford it. The last trip to milan cost me 25 for entrance, 100 for a tow, and 6100 give or take for tranny rebuild, new diff RPM stg III, and labor. LOL Maybe but I doubt it. I think I am done chasing a number. We all can agree the car is fast, and I think the 11.59 at nearly 127 in bad DA (+2000 or so ) gives an idea of what she can do. Just to remind everyone, this car was never intended for the track, it was intended to go 200 mph, and do it with ease. She does that, so I call my project a total success.

Why do you need to break in a new tranny? Dont new cars come with new trannys! I break everything in like I drive them with no problems ever. (except the 00 SS-broke the rear gears)

I can't speak for Donnie but I would guess that he wants me to take it easy on it for the first 500 miles as a precautionary step. ?? I'd also venture to say not too many "NEW" cars coming from the factory with 541 rwhp 505 rwtq, unless you want to talk about the 09 ZR1. I don't think I'd be jumping on that car until she had a few miles on her either. JMO

Glad to hear everything worked out. I love my RPM Diff!

Good Luck!!

i bet your tranny shaft caused your diff explosion...it goes boom and pieces of the shaft get lodged in places where theres no room for them to go and boom...can opener effect...when mine went a piece got stuck in the ring gear and cracked a tooth...blu's broke and did the same as yours...can opener'ed the diff, f'ed the tq tube, and f'ed the bellhousing...mine was with the stock m12 and my rpm stage 3 390 diff (600 miles on it at the time ...ouch)

Sorry to hear that man. Thanks for sharing. I have the gForce hardened output shaft now. THe stocker literally split diagonally and then torpedoed the diff. No torque tube issues here. I guess I'll consider myself very fortunate.

Btw addeed more miles tonight, getting closer. Only about 350 to go before I can flog her down the eway. Lets hope the weather stays nice enough to get out and drive.

So your car goes 200 mph...that's nice. You spent countless thousands of dollars over the last five years just to run up and down the highway? Get out there and be competitive,either road race or drag race that thing. Spitting out dyno numbers isn't really much of a accomplishment for all that money spent now is it.

P.S. If top end running is your bag. There are several events throughout the US that run the mile (flying or standing start). Go run in some of those event,that way you'll have a time slip that proves your car is capable of 200+ mph...as of right now it's only speculation.

Well Dave you know what, I am sure I could pick apart some of the things you have spent money on but I won't.

Thanks for the support.

As for the standing mile competitions I have looked into that. I'd really like to see what she'd do in the MILE vs the 1/4 mile. If I end up doing it then I'll be sure to post up a slip and video if possible.

As far as the other things I've done with my car, I am not at liberty to post. I will say I did make a few bucks doing it though, and had a lot of fun too.

I am glad it all worked out for you, I have only heard great things about D&D.

Well Dave you know what, I am sure I could pick apart some of the things you have spent money on but I won't.

Thanks for the support.

As for the standing mile competitions I have looked into that. I'd really like to see what she'd do in the MILE vs the 1/4 mile. If I end up doing it then I'll be sure to post up a slip and video if possible.

As far as the other things I've done with my car, I am not at liberty to post. I will say I did make a few bucks doing it though, and had a lot of fun too.

On the contrary,my post was not meant to knock the money spent,but rather to inspire you to use the car to it's true potential. You have a first class all around set up there (great combo)so don't just set on your hands,use that thing and compete against others with like type street driven race cars. It's the racing that I love...mono,mono type thing you know! :nod:

Yeah, I get your drift as to the other things and money won.You know my opinion on that shit...not cool.

I hear ya, but I think I am going to enjoy the car a bit first. I love the suspension, and to be honest the drive back from Vengeance Racing was not nearly enough seat time to re learn how to drive the car to its full potential. My few runs to work and back were nothing more then teases to see what the car can do. Its a little late in the year to do much more, but I'm sure come spring time I will be able to put something together for everyone's viewing pleasure.

TJ @ Baker thanks for the phone time and information. Had to go with D&D / Walsh Motorsports due to them being only 20 minutes from my house. When I pay Shawn a visit in your area (F1 WS6) he and I will probably stop in for a tour. Heard nothing but good things about you guys thats why I was considering Baker. Had Donnie still been doing Mustangs only I would've definately sent my car there. Thanks again

Got to drive to work today, all I can say is that this motor loves the cold air. Felt incredibly strong. Hope to put some more miles on the car today.


I'm surprised Donnie hasn't chimed in yet. Great job man. Thanks.

How about an update? I always enjoy reading your progress, setbacks, and upgrades. You are throwing some mad money at that hot rod. I got to keep my C5 together so I can focus my funds on my Nova's 408 build.

Well here's an update, I am going to be taking the car back to Donnie real soon to get some professional advice on the situation. Car ran perfect last night after some leisurely driving. Got nearly 300 of the 500 miles he suggested before I get on it and I have adhered to that as tempting as it is to stomp the gas. At any rate I pull the car out of the garage today and give her a good wash. After drying her off I fire her up so the motor can warm up. While driving I open the cutouts and the exhaust sounds funny and the car feels like there is a lot of vibration under acceleration all the way from the motor to the diff. I go over to my friends and get her raised up to find a connector to my DMH cutouts had come undone. I plug it in cycle the valves and they both open and close correctly. Now the car sounds good. I take it for a ride and under acceleration it feels very loaded up? Don't know how to explain anymore. As the rpms slowly come up so does the vibration from the rear of the car and loaded feeling. Car doesn't have the normal power either. Feels like it is in reduced power mode but I have no message in the display, and no codes either. I am stumped and pissed. I wanted to clean her up and hit the gym then go eat at this restaurant that is a bit of a drive, but miles driven in a modded Corvette are fun miles so I didn't care. Needless to say I cancelled my plans and decided to post up to see if anyone had any suggestions as to what could be going on. Newly rebuilt tranny, and NEW RPM diff. Also drove perfect last night, can't understand ?

Did you get the problems resolved yet? Fill us in on what you found out about the issues that you described. Surely by now the professionals that did all of the installations for you have come up with the solutions to the vibration and low power issues.

Hey Doug,
Did she blow on a DR or a slick? Sucks how much money it takes to fix that and I really do NOT want that to happen to me. Hell I'm struggling as it is to round up the cash for a damn clutch. I'll never run a slick for sure but I know it can happen on DR's too. I haven't had a chance to get a good 60' yet but I'll be happy w/ a 1.8X.

Washed it and the problems started? Could be some corossion on the grounds. These C5's seem to be plaggued by that problem. You really got to be on top of the cleaning of grounds and putting dielectric grease on them after.

D&D has been closed for the last few days, Donnie is unaware of my issues at this time. I'll talk to him today.

Red I was on DRs. 4000 rpm launch. 1.71 60 ft

D&D has been closed for the last few days, Donnie is unaware of my issues at this time. I'll talk to him today.

Red I was on DRs. 4000 rpm launch. 1.71 60 ft

damn man

Doug you´ll figure this out.....

must besome install issue...

good luck

baezi

damn man

Doug you´ll figure this out.....

must besome install issue...

good luck

baezi

Thanks man, I have placed several calls to Walsh Motorsports / D&D Performance and no answer. Either still out of town, or very busy. I'll update after I've spoken with Donnie.

Washed it and the problems started? Could be some corossion on the grounds. These C5's seem to be plaggued by that problem. You really got to be on top of the cleaning of grounds and putting dielectric grease on them after.

I highly doubt it. Simple handwash with the hose in the driveway.

Good luck getting it sorted out.

Thanks Kevin. I'll update when I know something, but I may just put the car up for the year. Hard to say that considering its going to be 60's and Sunny today. Sucks to have the car not driving right. At least the weather turns shitty next week so its not that bad, I just wanted to get a little more drive time before putting her up.

You better get that thing looked at before you put it up so whom ever is responsible can fix their work ! Now if you find something new, that's another story !

Pitt

I hear ya loud and clear Pitt !! I placed about 4 calls to Donnie and left a couple messages. He never picked up or got back to me. I would like to get this addressed next week first thing.

They are probably at SEMA.

Is your vibration speed or RPM related ?

You better get that thing looked at before you put it up so whom ever is responsible can fix their work ! Now if you find something new, that's another story !

Pitt

Doug,you put way to much time and money into this project to just let these problems ride until next spring. Next weeks weather doesn't look all that bad. Stay on their butts until they address the problems at hand...good luck in getting these issues resolved quickly.

RPM related. Hard to put into words but if you rev the motor while the car is sitting it feels very loaded up. Then if you are driving and give it gas it feels as if I am towing something. Sorry but thats the best I can do. I drove the car normally for 283 miles, never even saw 4000 rpms. No hard shifts, no hard upshifts. Took a friend out and she loved how the car handled and commented on how smooth it was. When I started the car the next day to let it warm up while I washed it sounded funny. After jacking her up I found one of the cutouts to be unhooked, plugged it back in and she sounded normal. THen when I drove the car it felt like I described above.

I hear ya David. I will get with Donnie on Monday.

Have you tried reving the motor with the clutch pushed in ?

How does the motor idle ?

Motor idles fine, right at 975 rpms. I am aware that I may need to go with the TICK AMC. Donnie showed me that the car wants to move fwd with a rev when the clutch is in and car is in gear.

I'll update this thread after I talk to Donnie. Just give me a minute. Hope to know something by Tuesday.

a tick wont make the car smoother....if youre having creeping issues clutch in I'd reattempt bleeding the hell out of the hydraulics...sounds like upon clutch intsall it wasnt bled very well...if you werent having clutch issues before than your master doesnt magically go bad....if you have a remote bleeder...rebleed...your clutch should have never release off the floor with the stock master assuming bled properly unless it needed a shim and as far as I know it doesnt require a shim as lots of RPS users are using stock master without issues...I'd rebleed and mity vac that bitch for the clutch issue...but as far as vibration issue...I think thats a completely different thing that needs to be narrowed down

Doug havent talked to you in awhile. Hoping all works out fine for you.

Motor idles fine, right at 975 rpms. I am aware that I may need to go with the TICK AMC. Donnie showed me that the car wants to move fwd with a rev when the clutch is in and car is in gear.

I'll update this thread after I talk to Donnie. Just give me a minute. Hope to know something by Tuesday.

The more info that you are posting leads me t believe that something has gone wrong with your clutch.

If your car was creeping forward (i.e. air gap not enough) to completely release between the pressure plate and the flywheel, then you're going to have all kinds of problems.

I'm betting that your vibration problems are related to the clutch. if you can press in the clutch while driving down the street and the vibration goes away more than likely it's in clutch / Torque Tube assembly.

Doug,anything new to report?

The shop is pretty busy, so I will get the car there when there is an opening.

Dropping her off Tuesday night. Hope to hear something by Wednesday.

[QUOTE=allngn_c5;12499977]Dropping her off Tuesday night. Hope to hear something by Wednesday.[/QUO

Doug,

I bet u are shaking your head with all the bad luck you have had lately......

I feel for u.

Mike

Dropping her off Tuesday night. Hope to hear something by Wednesday.

You got all that bad luck from me !!

Vette = 1 diff, 2 tranny's, 4 clutches and a motor.

Silverado = 3 trannys, 1 diff and the motor was just because !

Hang in there. I just had to fix the new tranny in the Silverado last week. Lost the 3-4 clutch pac all ready :cry:

Pitt

Thanks Mike and Pitt !! I'll let everyone know something by the end of the week.

Well quicker results then expected. Long story short, broken rocker arm. All pieces acconted for minus a very small piece of aluminum. Oil filter will be cut open and inspected so lets hope its there, and also draining the pan to see if its in there or not. Lets hope its found. I have been advised that if it was his car he would NOT spend the money to tear down the motor and find the piece if it isn't located, but he's not saying I am not taking a risk either. So wish me luck that the small piece of aluminum is located.

Big surprise considering my bad luck. I made one call to Ron at Vengeance Racing and explained the situation and the first words out of his mouth are we got ya covered Doug, can you email me the address? I was very happy to see a well respected tech sponsor just come out and say no problem. So many people have had issues with big name sponsors, but Vengeance Racing in Cumming, GA takes care of their customers before, during, and after the sale.

I also wanted to point out to the Michigan Residents. Donnie Walsh at Walsh Motorsports is definately the best shop here in southern Michigan. You make an appointment, drop the car off, and they go to work. I wasn't expecting any information on my car until at least tomorrow or Friday but to my surprise Donnie called me today just 30 mins ago. Again Southern Michigan in need of LSx performance work, install, repair, maintenance, or tuning call Donnie Walsh at Walsh Motorsports 248 735 5555 or for tranny specialists his dad in the front part of the shop D&D Performance 248 735 6220 (TECH SPONSOR)

sucks man. what kind of rockers were they?

sucks man. what kind of rockers were they?

It happened to me to last summer, I have Harland Sharp., have broken arm twice... :cry:
but there where no missing piece, luckie me..... :hail:


good luck Doug finding your piece....


baezi

Yella Terra Ultralites, and thanks Baezi. YT's have a great track record, and Harland Sharp has fixed the issues they "had" with the first run but we all know anything can break. Just bad luck on my part. Thinking back to the symptoms I had it all makes sense. I was out the night before with a friend and driving normal, it ran great, everything was fine. I started it the next day to back it out and wash the car in the driveway. I thought it sounded funny but just figured the motor was cold and needed to warm up since it was quite cold overnight. After washing the car I started her up to warm up while I dried her off. I got in and pulled onto the street and it felt weak, and hesitated greatly if you gave it gas. Now we all know why. Will update when its done. I think I may have Donnie strap her down to the dyno just for comparison's sake. I'll have to see if he can set the CF to SAE vs STD. STD will yield higher numbers due to how cool it is.

I was hopping you would report back that an 02 sensor went bad & the tune just went rich....guess not.

There has been a few reported YT failures & follow up by the manufacture. Here or CF or both forum's.

I made a mental note due to timing of posts thinking about when I purchased mine.

These threads are very recent & the time frame of product purchase is reasonably current as well.

I'm sure a search here or CF will find the recent threads quickly.

If not let me know & I will hunt them threads down!

Sorry for the bad luck.

Yella Terra posted over at CF that they had a bad batch after bringing a new production machine online:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1571588835-post83.html

Well after a long morning of waiting on UPS as i sit here at work fidgeting and hoping, the parts arrived at D&D. I spoke with Donnie and he said he's very confident that I will be on the road at the close of business. I can't wait. I'll update tomorrow after I pull the Nitto Drags off the back for my PS2's so I can run through the curves of the expressway on a tire better suited for highway runs. I don't trust the sidewall on a DR for holding up through the curves. I just can't wait until I can push the suspension and see what the car is capable of. TOo bad I have to baby it for another 200 miles first !

UPDATE !!

Car is fixed and running beautifully !!! Can't thank Donnie and Justin at Walsh Motorsports / D&D Performance enough for busting their tails to get the girl back together and on the road. UPS saw fit to deliver at 205 pm, and for Donnie to say he'll stay open just to get me done was very nice of him.

Also have to thank Ron@Vengeance Racing for the assist on the replacement rockers. You are appreciated man. Can't say enough good stuff about how you guys have taken care of my car.

Very glad to have found an in state alternative for the small stuff. Too bad I am done modding, or am I. Whistle while you work, hint wink nod LOL. F1 low boost, maybe. Going to do that down the road possibly. I will enjoy the car as is for now. Thanks to everyone for following along.

Glad you are back up and running Doug!!!

Glad you are back up and running Doug!!!

Thanks for all the help on everything in June, Sept, and then on the rockers bro. Car is running beautifully. I had to add a zip tie to keep the right side DMH Cutout from coming unplugged but that only took me 5 mins. I've got nearly 500 miles on the new rear diff, and rebuilt tranny, I can hardly wait to go WOT !!! I've only got a couple more days of "decent" weather to work with too.

Donnie Walsh, where are you at bro ? You need to come in here and take a bow! You and Justin did a great job getting the car done in such a short amount of time. Too bad UPS didn't deliver the replacement rockers a little earlier so you guys wouldn't have been under the gun.

Everyone needs to know about Walsh Motor Sports and D&D Performance. 2 very good shops in one convenient location. Good customer service before, during, and after the sale. Donnie Walsh is very easy to talk to, get in touch with, he returns calls and explains everything so you can make an informed decision. Justin pretty much nailed the issue too when I took him for a ride. You can't teach that, you have to learn through experience. Thanks again Donnie and Justin, and can't forget Ron@Vengeance for coming thru with a great save. Thanks guys.

Ron, I'll be in touch when the time comes for the F1. :)

glad to hear you are back at full power again Doug. And it's always great to hear positive feedback on vendors. Vengeance Racing is covering both ends of the spectrum with killer power and customer support.

glad to hear you are back at full power again Doug. And it's always great to hear positive feedback on vendors. Vengeance Racing is covering both ends of the spectrum with killer power and customer support.

Drove to work this morning in heavy fog and 37 degree air !! Talk about a fun/risky run. LOL. Hoping for some sun to warm the asphalt to make the ride home a little more fun. I've got the 500 easy miles on the rebuilt trans and new diff, so its time to get the tires hot and see how she launches when the light turns green !

You got it right about Vengeance Racing, before, during and after the sale, Ron has your back.

Very glad to see how well my experience has went with Donnie Walsh at Walsh Motorsports / D&D Performance. Finally found a local option when I need something fixed. Good prices too and great customer service.

Doug, got your PM. Something is up with this site. I can't even post as it goes to time-out, same thing with a PM. The SITE IS DRAGGING. Hope this goes thru...has been this way for a few days now.

Pitt

Drove to work this morning in heavy fog and 37 degree air !! Talk about a fun/risky run. LOL. Hoping for some sun to warm the asphalt to make the ride home a little more fun. I've got the 500 easy miles on the rebuilt trans and new diff, so its time to get the tires hot and see how she launches when the light turns green !

You got it right about Vengeance Racing, before, during and after the sale, Ron has your back.

Very glad to see how well my experience has went with Donnie Walsh at Walsh Motorsports / D&D Performance. Finally found a local option when I need something fixed. Good prices too and great customer service.

68 degrees and sunny here in California :D