Southern Members - Need help !! North Alabama
twadd
10-31-2009, 02:41 PM
I traded for a 02 Ws6 with 25k miles a few weeks back. After driving it about 15 miles I started to hear a knocking sound from the engine. Its a pretty loud sound but it kinda sounds as if it coming from the pass side head. I have no idea what would make that kinda noise in the head. Also the guy I traded with said it had AFR heads, been cammed, ZO6 intake and throttle body, full SLP exhaust, and a NOS that he claims had never been used. Any ideas would be great or if someone was in my area of Gadsden, AL and wouldn't mind looking at it that would help me a ton. Thanks !! http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m454/twadd101/2002%20Trans%20Am%20Ws6/P1060970.jpg
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homerunhtr21
10-31-2009, 03:00 PM
Take the trans am plate off the front left passenger side head to see if they are AFR...They mark their heads on the front. The Z06 intake is just an Ls6 intake, and Im pretty sure the Corvette uses a different kind of tb so it might just be a ported stock throttle body. As for the knock it could be a lot of things. Sorry Im not a little closer to help out a little more.
twadd
10-31-2009, 03:56 PM
Take the trans am plate off the front left passenger side head to see if they are AFR...They mark their heads on the front. The Z06 intake is just an Ls6 intake, and Im pretty sure the Corvette uses a different kind of tb so it might just be a ported stock throttle body. As for the knock it could be a lot of things. Sorry Im not a little closer to help out a little more.
Thanks for your input, I have been meaning to take that plate of the head to look, think I will check it right now. Thanks
twadd
10-31-2009, 04:23 PM
Ok so I just went and checked the heads, they are 706 heads.
twadd
11-01-2009, 11:13 AM
Im gonna try to get a video clip on here. Up for the morning.
twadd
11-01-2009, 12:38 PM
Added video of car running below pics.
Chris06GT
11-01-2009, 01:58 PM
Holy sh*t....that doesn't sound good at all bro......Maybe some of these guys will come in and help out....Wish I knew what to tell you....
6SSPEED
11-01-2009, 02:02 PM
Could possibly be a valve slapping the piston
twadd
11-01-2009, 05:09 PM
Could possibly be a valve slapping the piston
It does sound as if its coming from the passenger side head ?
therobman
11-01-2009, 06:08 PM
the valve isint hitting the piston, its hard to tell could be rod knock, bent pushrod, bad lifter does it go away or get quieter when it warms up hows ur oil pressure id pull the valve covers and inspect could just be a bad pushrod or a rocker arm could have puked its bearings go take a look
twadd
11-01-2009, 06:16 PM
the valve isint hitting the piston, its hard to tell could be rod knock, bent pushrod, bad lifter does it go away or get quieter when it warms up hows ur oil pressure id pull the valve covers and inspect could just be a bad pushrod or a rocker arm could have puked its bearings go take a look
Oil pressure is about 45-50 cold then about 25-30 warm, doesn't go away as it gets warm. I was just riding down the highway when it started to make this sound.
therobman
11-01-2009, 07:22 PM
thats find oil press then its either a bent pushrod or one of the rocker arms spit the bearings see which side its on and pull the valve cover and and the 8 rockers and pushrods and inspect them ill bet youll find something out of the ordinary
twadd
11-01-2009, 07:33 PM
thats find oil press then its either a bent pushrod or one of the rocker arms spit the bearings see which side its on and pull the valve cover and and the 8 rockers and pushrods and inspect them ill bet youll find something out of the ordinary
Its on the passenger side for sure.
therobman
11-01-2009, 08:25 PM
so pull the valve cover really easy and the 8 rockers and pushrods
twadd
11-01-2009, 08:38 PM
so pull the valve cover really easy and the 8 rockers and pushrods
Thats my plan in the next few days. Thanks !
OMGWTFBODY
11-01-2009, 09:51 PM
Good luck.
twadd
11-01-2009, 10:05 PM
Good luck.
Thanks !!
Damian
11-01-2009, 11:12 PM
Isn't this car on craigslist?
twadd
11-02-2009, 04:48 AM
Isn't this car on craigslist?
Yes, Im trying to sell to buy a diesel truck to pull my camper, but if it was fixed it would be alot easier sale. Thanks
hmorris7000
11-02-2009, 09:13 AM
if it is a 02 it came with a ls6/z06 intake also if there z06 heads you should see a 243 casting number also NOS installed but never used I hope you knew damn well that guy was lying seem like he sold you a lemon
twadd
11-02-2009, 10:37 AM
if it is a 02 it came with a ls6/z06 intake also if there z06 heads you should see a 243 casting number also NOS installed but never used I hope you knew damn well that guy was lying seem like he sold you a lemon
You are probaly right. It's a real damn shame you can't take a mans word anymore. Guess it's my fault as well I should have done a little more research first, O well this is where I'm at now. Thanks for the comment !
hmorris7000
11-02-2009, 11:30 AM
did the seller tell you the car had problems? did you test drive before you bought it?
twadd
11-02-2009, 11:58 AM
did the seller tell you the car had problems? did you test drive before you bought it?
Yeah I started the car 3-4 times and drove it, no problems till about 12-15 miles down the road after we traded.
DarkJuggalo
11-02-2009, 03:46 PM
that engine bay/car looks so familiar i could have sworn i saw it on streetfire on N2o vs a stang or something like that. imma have to dig through some videos :D
hmorris7000
11-02-2009, 04:26 PM
that engine bay/car looks so familiar i could have sworn i saw it on streetfire on N2o vs a stang or something like that. imma have to dig through some videos :D
that sucks
Damian
11-02-2009, 05:18 PM
At the OP expense, this is a learning lesson to those in the market for a car. Do NOT buy a car that has a nitrous kit on it. Most of the time, guys selling nitrous cars are selling them because they beat the ever living piss out of it and now it's starting to have problems.
StreetGliderX
11-02-2009, 05:55 PM
yeah i wouldnt buy a car that had been sprayed unless i knew it well or drove it for at least 30 or so miles till i knoew the engine was warm and not knocking... its easy for someone to spray the guts out of ANY car
twadd
11-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Pulled the vavle cover, no issues with rockers or pushrods. The sounds really seems to be under the intake now. You can feel it on the intake bolts, cant feel anything on the valve covers or heads. My luck its a rod or something in the bottom end.
2nd3rd4thgen
11-02-2009, 10:37 PM
I had a 350 that supn 2 rod barrings and bent two push rods it made the same noise as yours. and it still had 50psi cold and 30 psi warm of oil presser. have you checked your oil for specks of mettle.
twadd
11-02-2009, 10:44 PM
I had a 350 that supn 2 rod barrings and bent two push rods it made the same noise as yours. and it still had 50psi cold and 30 psi warm of oil presser. have you checked your oil for specks of mettle.
Nope not yet.
bjamick
11-03-2009, 11:34 AM
Go ahead and drain the oil out. Cut your filter open and have a look to see if there are any pieces of metal in there. It sounds to me like a possible bearing failure. It has slightly low oil pressure, should be around 40 @ idle.
Did you pull all the pushrods? You need to pull them out, and roll them across a glass table or something flat. Shake all your rockers and listen for anything that sounds out of the ordinary, I've heard of the needle bearings coming out of the stock rockers. Definitely drain the oil and have a look though before running it anymore.
twadd
11-03-2009, 11:41 AM
Go ahead and drain the oil out. Cut your filter open and have a look to see if there are any pieces of metal in there. It sounds to me like a possible bearing failure. It has slightly low oil pressure, should be around 40 @ idle.
Did you pull all the pushrods? You need to pull them out, and roll them across a glass table or something flat. Shake all your rockers and listen for anything that sounds out of the ordinary, I've heard of the needle bearings coming out of the stock rockers. Definitely drain the oil and have a look though before running it anymore.
Will do. Found a truck to buy so car has to go. Lowered the price to $10,000. Thanks
Soul TKR
11-03-2009, 02:36 PM
my bet is bent pushrods and a spun bearing/rod knock
my car had 3 bent pushrods, a spun bearing, rod knock, failed lifter, every valve hit every piston, a bearing shot out of my water pump, and still survived about 10 runs on the dyno making 302 rwhp before we decided to shut it down and pull it apart to find out what all the noise was about :lol:
twadd
11-03-2009, 02:40 PM
my bet is bent pushrods and a spun bearing/rod knock
my car had 3 bent pushrods, a spun bearing, rod knock, failed lifter, every valve hit every piston, a bearing shot out of my water pump, and still survived about 10 runs on the dyno making 302 rwhp before we decided to shut it down and pull it apart to find out what all the noise was about :lol:
Wow thats crazy ! Looks like your back on the road now.
yotaman96
11-03-2009, 02:54 PM
Your for sale thread states that you bought the car with the issue. Here you say it didn't have the issue until after you bought it and claim the seller was dishonest with you. Just curious why you have two different stories?
twadd
11-03-2009, 03:13 PM
Your for sale thread states that you bought the car with the issue. Here you say it didn't have the issue until after you bought it and claim the seller was dishonest with you. Just curious why you have two different stories?
The car was running right when we traded, when I started to head home about 12-15 miles the noise started. My for sale ad was copied and pasted from a CL ad that my buddy listed for me. I didn't even notice that, Thanks ! I will get that changed, as I have nothing to hide. Sorry for the different stories!
bjamick
11-03-2009, 03:40 PM
It will be difficult to sale a car with engine problems.
twadd
11-03-2009, 03:47 PM
It will be difficult to sale a car with engine problems.
True but, I have had alot of offers just non that is acceptable yet. Thanks !
firefightergib
11-03-2009, 05:18 PM
True but, I have had alot of offers just non that is acceptable yet. Thanks !
let me know if you get interested in the trade i talked about, thanks josh
twadd
11-03-2009, 07:56 PM
let me know if you get interested in the trade i talked about, thanks josh
Sent you a PM.
charlie97z28
11-03-2009, 08:49 PM
sounds like a spun bearing/ rod knocking to me also. It's definitely something bottom end tho does'nt sound like a lifter or something of that nature but i could be wrong nice looking car tho.
Greenfire
11-03-2009, 09:11 PM
Yeah never buy a car that has nitrous on it. I bet he sprayed the shit out of it. Why install nitrous and then tell someone you never used it. It's like putting nittos on the car and saying you never did a burn out. HAH!
twadd
11-03-2009, 09:17 PM
sounds like a spun bearing/ rod knocking to me also. It's definitely something bottom end tho does'nt sound like a lifter or something of that nature but i could be wrong nice looking car tho.
Thanks Man !
twadd
11-06-2009, 06:37 PM
Sold !
dragnby
11-16-2009, 01:46 AM
whats up guys, im new to the forum but im meeting a guy at Limbaugh Toyota in birmingham tomorrow (monday 11-16) at noon to trade my truck for is H/C camaro. i know about cars but it will be my first LS car and anyone that wants to come up there around noon and make sure i dont get fucked over is more than welcome to help me out lol. thanks guys. my number is 901-674-5917 text or call