Conversions & Hybrids - 1972 Nova LQ9 swap
crosstraining
11-01-2009, 10:36 PM
I finally got things started yesterday. The patient is a 72 Nova with a 350 and mild cam. The transplant is from a LQ9 from a 2006 caddy escalade. I have a friend helping me, or really teaching me. I am also getting great help from people on this board. Frojoe and his build has been very helpfull. This will be a learning experience as I have never done this kind of thing before. I have rarely put more than gas in a car let alone an engine swap. Yesterday we got started by stipping most of the engine down. We will be cleaning it up, putting a bigger cam in, and some LS6 valve springs. I will try to update and add some pics when I figure out how to put pics up. Thanks for looking and I hope you enjoy the build as much as I am:D
-LQ9 and tranny $2400. Damn it is an AWD tranny!
-tsp cam
-head gaskets 150.00
-LH8 oil pan from another member $250.00
-engine mounts
-getting patriot valve springs $255.00
-computer $100.00
-jeep grand cherokee steering box
Still Need:
-to make adapter plates
-convert tranny or buy another (got a guy that will convert for 250.00)
-radiator
-headers
-fuel system (walbro pump)
-get wiring harness re-worked
-maybe brake hydroboost set up
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crosstraining
11-08-2009, 06:19 PM
I put the new cam in today. It is a TSP 233/239 .603/.600 112 LSA. The only other I did was clean up the block a little. I am waiting for my buddy to clean up the 317 heads in the parts bath at his work. Hopefully putting the engine back together next weekend.
Jimbo1367
11-08-2009, 06:32 PM
Remember to blow out all bolt holes before reassembly. keep us posted.
1quickirocz
11-08-2009, 08:24 PM
I hope someone else will chime in and tell me if i am wrong but i think .600 lift is way to much on ls6 springs. i think .550 is the max on those. I could be wrong.
ramdaspadhye
11-09-2009, 09:49 AM
I would def get some dual springs or some quality beehives for anything .600 and larger. Some PAC 1518's installed at the correct height would be good.
Jim85IROC
11-09-2009, 10:01 AM
I'm interested in finding out what your piston to valve clearance is with that cam. I'm planning on running a very similar cam in my LQ9, perhaps a little higher lift, but I'm having a hard time figuring out just how much cam I can run without PTV issues. I realize that I'm going to need to check my final setup, but I'd really like to have an idea what I can use before I buy and install the cam.
crosstraining
11-09-2009, 01:09 PM
Remember to blow out all bolt holes before reassembly. keep us posted.
Thanks, I am a newbie, so I appreciate any advice. I will have to check into some different valve springs.
crosstraining
11-09-2009, 01:11 PM
I'm interested in finding out what your piston to valve clearance is with that cam. I'm planning on running a very similar cam in my LQ9, perhaps a little higher lift, but I'm having a hard time figuring out just how much cam I can run without PTV issues. I realize that I'm going to need to check my final setup, but I'd really like to have an idea what I can use before I buy and install the cam.
I'll see if I can check that next weekend.
crosstraining
11-09-2009, 07:46 PM
Does anybody have any other spring suggestions?
hookemdevils22
11-09-2009, 08:33 PM
comp 921's. 918's are only rated to .600, so you may get valve float at higher rpm. of course, the 921 kit is nearly $600 (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-26921-KIT/) (vs. $170 for the 918 springs (http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=208)), so it's spendy.
if it were me, i'd go with the 921s just in case. i solved this dilemma by going with a .646/.621 cam, so 918s weren't even an option.
eviltwin_1987
11-09-2009, 09:55 PM
patriot extremes
1quickirocz
11-10-2009, 01:36 PM
the new comp 918s are maxed at .625 lift. I am using those on my swap with a .598 lift comp cam. those should be good for you but call comp to be sure.
crosstraining
11-10-2009, 02:05 PM
I ordered :
198-8401 Patriot Performance Dual "Gold" Springs (max lift .650")
Thanks for the help.
crosstraining
11-22-2009, 10:31 PM
I got my new springs. i don't have enought posts to put this in the ad section, so if someone is looking for some ls6 yellow springs PM me.
I had planned on putting the engine back together this weekend, but it didn't work out. I also decided to put a new timing chain on, and couldn't find one today. So not much progress. The heads are cleaned up, but now it will be a couple of weeks before I have the time to put it back together.
This is just the life of car projects.
crosstraining
11-23-2009, 11:14 PM
I decided to upgrade to quick ratio steering. I got this out of a Jeep grand cherokee. Does anyone know where I can get the rag joint I need to swap these out?
I have to resize the photo, but I'll put it up soon.
hookemdevils22
11-24-2009, 09:36 AM
not sure if this will help, but i did a 3rd gen camaro quick-ratio box (F41 suspension) per this write-up (http://69camaro.nextmill.net/steering.html). I used Dorman PN 31011 from (I think) a mid-80s Chev truck. You could always order one and give it a shot.
The 3rd gen box is a direct bolt-in with the exact same dimensions as ours, fyi.
sabastian458
11-24-2009, 09:43 AM
you can buy the swap mounts fairly cheap now. there is a shop near me (Carolina Rod Shop) or if you want a better mount (better look and fit) Street and Performance makes a trick set. I have used both, the Rod Shop ones I used in a 86 C10 truck, and the S&P ones in my bro's 68 Camaro
sabastian458
11-24-2009, 09:46 AM
Oh and for fuel delivery you can use a 89 Ranger fuel pump, it is capable of suppling 80-90 psi, then feed the fuel into a 98-99? corvette fuel filter (the filter that is used on the returnless fuel system in the corvettes)
You should still beable to use the stock radiator, but upgrade to a really good electric fan.
crosstraining
11-24-2009, 11:07 AM
Oh and for fuel delivery you can use a 89 Ranger fuel pump, it is capable of suppling 80-90 psi, then feed the fuel into a 98-99? corvette fuel filter (the filter that is used on the returnless fuel system in the corvettes)
You should still beable to use the stock radiator, but upgrade to a really good electric fan.
Thanks for the info. I was wondering if I could use the stock radiator.
71 chevelle
11-24-2009, 04:37 PM
I have some engine mounts I had made by a local machine shop laying around in the garage(I think I have all the bolt too). I am going with edelbrocks. If you want them their yours just pm your ship to and I will send them out.
sabastian458
11-24-2009, 04:45 PM
we used my brother's stock 68 camaro radiator when we put in the LS1 5 years ago, now it is running an iron LS2 and the temps are still perfect :) The next semi diffecult task will be the transmission crossmember, as you will more than likely have to make a custom one. The trans mount got moved about 6-8 inches or so rearward in both the camaro (T56) and the C10 (4L80E)
crosstraining
11-24-2009, 10:30 PM
I have some engine mounts I had made by a local machine shop laying around in the garage(I think I have all the bolt too). I am going with edelbrocks. If you want them their yours just pm your ship to and I will send them out.
Thanks, PM sent. Why are you going with the Edelbrocks? Are you using Edelbrock headers?