02sslayer
11-05-2009, 05:00 PM
im looking into the ms3 cam for my car, and ive heard they can be streetable with a good tune. so i was wondering if anyone that had a ms3 would let me ride in their car just so i could see for myself. thankyou
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zlicious94
11-05-2009, 07:03 PM
Not sure what happened to ssteven but he was puttin one in. Yo dog where ya at??
02sslayer
11-05-2009, 07:27 PM
Not sure what happened to ssteven but he was puttin one in. Yo dog where ya at??
ya it would be nice to ride in one that has been properly tuned, just to see how it is on the street. i wonder if wong is a good enough tuner to make that cam behave properly? so wt u been up to? did u fix the z yet?
ya it would be nice to ride in one that has been properly tuned, just to see how it is on the street. i wonder if wong is a good enough tuner to make that cam behave properly? so wt u been up to? did u fix the z yet?
SsSteven
11-06-2009, 01:06 AM
still not installed...the ms3 n stg 2.5 5.3's r just collecting dust...still waitin on tom to finish that ttix project....
02sslayer
11-06-2009, 01:48 AM
still not installed...the ms3 n stg 2.5 5.3's r just collecting dust...still waitin on tom to finish that ttix project....
thats cool, maybe when u get it installed i could ride in it if thats cool, i just wana see how this cam is on the street in person. so i can make a decision on getting one i wana get the 5.3 heads also. i live up in longveiw(pretty close to portland) i know phil also. well let me know
thats cool, maybe when u get it installed i could ride in it if thats cool, i just wana see how this cam is on the street in person. so i can make a decision on getting one i wana get the 5.3 heads also. i live up in longveiw(pretty close to portland) i know phil also. well let me know
smokinponcho73
11-06-2009, 02:16 AM
Tommy did a pretty good job of tuning my MS4 on my 408, I think the MS3 shouldn't be a problem. He is a great tuner.
02sslayer
11-06-2009, 04:00 AM
Tommy did a pretty good job of tuning my MS4 on my 408, I think the MS3 shouldn't be a problem. He is a great tuner.
thanks, i talked to him earleir about it. he said he can make the ms3 run pretty well on the street too. how does the ms4 run in the 408?
thanks, i talked to him earleir about it. he said he can make the ms3 run pretty well on the street too. how does the ms4 run in the 408?
99blancoSS
11-06-2009, 10:01 AM
Your best bet is a custom ground cam. Same money but a better fit for for your car and you.
Yes Tommy can tune any cam to run as good as it will get, but is it the best fit for you?
Lay out your goals first as to how you want your car to drive.
Are you looking for a highway roller, do you want to have to downshift to see any appreciable power.. all things to consider when looking at a cam over 230* in duration with a 346 cid.
end of public service announcement :jest:
Yes Tommy can tune any cam to run as good as it will get, but is it the best fit for you?
Lay out your goals first as to how you want your car to drive.
Are you looking for a highway roller, do you want to have to downshift to see any appreciable power.. all things to consider when looking at a cam over 230* in duration with a 346 cid.
end of public service announcement :jest:
02sslayer
11-06-2009, 11:22 AM
Your best bet is a custom ground cam. Same money but a better fit for for your car and you.
Yes Tommy can tune any cam to run as good as it will get, but is it the best fit for you?
Lay out your goals first as to how you want your car to drive.
Are you looking for a highway roller, do you want to have to downshift to see any appreciable power.. all things to consider when looking at a cam over 230* in duration with a 346 cid.
end of public service announcement :jest:
i realize there are some downfalls to a cam this big. my car is a summer car only and i take it to the track. but its a proven cam to make solid power and it sounds sick also. i dont know if i could live with it though so im trying to find out. im considering a customgrind too.
Yes Tommy can tune any cam to run as good as it will get, but is it the best fit for you?
Lay out your goals first as to how you want your car to drive.
Are you looking for a highway roller, do you want to have to downshift to see any appreciable power.. all things to consider when looking at a cam over 230* in duration with a 346 cid.
end of public service announcement :jest:
i realize there are some downfalls to a cam this big. my car is a summer car only and i take it to the track. but its a proven cam to make solid power and it sounds sick also. i dont know if i could live with it though so im trying to find out. im considering a customgrind too.
smokinponcho73
11-06-2009, 04:48 PM
If you are willing to travel a little bit I can show you the benefits and down falls to running a large cam. I can't drive much because the insuranse company limited my Mileage for the year.
99blancoSS
11-06-2009, 07:09 PM
I can't drive much because the insuranse company limited my Mileage for the year.
WTF is that all about ? Did you do something bad?
WTF is that all about ? Did you do something bad?
02sslayer
11-06-2009, 08:15 PM
If you are willing to travel a little bit I can show you the benefits and down falls to running a large cam. I can't drive much because the insuranse company limited my Mileage for the year.
ya that would be cool. can u really tell in the 408? but ya im willing to check it out. maybe next weekend or somethin
ya that would be cool. can u really tell in the 408? but ya im willing to check it out. maybe next weekend or somethin
zlicious94
11-06-2009, 09:06 PM
Dude that cam isnt that big lol! Shit there is only 1000 vids on youtube with people runnin that cam and some even are dd's. That cam will give you a nice 400rwhp but your gonna definetly want to get some 4.10's on that bitch with that cam though or you will be waitin all day for it to get in its power zone and then by that time an lt1 car might be ahead of ya lol :hump:
99blancoSS
11-06-2009, 10:05 PM
That cam will give you a nice 400rwhp but your gonna definetly want to get some 4.10's on that bitch with that cam though or you will be waitin all day for it to get in its power zone and then by that time an lt1 car might be ahead of ya lol :hump:
:jest: but that says it all... smaller cam or gears to match.. but the 410's are weak in a 10 bolt... but with a decent set of heads you can make it work good enough.
We ran a 238/240 in my 347 with 389 gears. It moved OK under 4500 rpms due to the AFR's and was an absolute bullet from 4500 -7000 rpms. If I was restricted to 346 cubic inches and had a daily driver I would stay in the 224- 228 range and save and put some good heads on it. 440 is a reasonable goal an still be a decent driver.. If I was lookinmg to make more power than that I would look to increase the cubes first. For a street car that is.
:jest: but that says it all... smaller cam or gears to match.. but the 410's are weak in a 10 bolt... but with a decent set of heads you can make it work good enough.
We ran a 238/240 in my 347 with 389 gears. It moved OK under 4500 rpms due to the AFR's and was an absolute bullet from 4500 -7000 rpms. If I was restricted to 346 cubic inches and had a daily driver I would stay in the 224- 228 range and save and put some good heads on it. 440 is a reasonable goal an still be a decent driver.. If I was lookinmg to make more power than that I would look to increase the cubes first. For a street car that is.
02sslayer
11-06-2009, 10:12 PM
for sure about the gears. i wouldent run that cam without goin 4.10 at least. but if you have a cam that is good for 7000, dont u have to do alot more to the inside of the motor?
zlicious94
11-06-2009, 10:25 PM
It might say 7000 but with stock heads you probably wont need to go past 6500. You will need better springs etc etc. If I had an ls1 that would be the first thing I would do besides a fast 92/92!! Go for it dude it will run good!
smokinponcho73
11-06-2009, 11:59 PM
WTF is that all about ? Did you do something bad?
no its so I can insure my cherokee and the poncho. I have it set up so the jeep is my dd and the T/a is just a weekend car. So I now only drive the T/a around town, not sure how many miles I have left on it.
no its so I can insure my cherokee and the poncho. I have it set up so the jeep is my dd and the T/a is just a weekend car. So I now only drive the T/a around town, not sure how many miles I have left on it.
02sslayer
11-07-2009, 12:55 AM
It might say 7000 but with stock heads you probably wont need to go past 6500. You will need better springs etc etc. If I had an ls1 that would be the first thing I would do besides a fast 92/92!! Go for it dude it will run good!
i must say its mighty tempting lol. it wont be cam only though i will definatly get the heads to go with it. i hear tommy can make them run great too.
i must say its mighty tempting lol. it wont be cam only though i will definatly get the heads to go with it. i hear tommy can make them run great too.
02sslayer
11-07-2009, 01:01 AM
If you are willing to travel a little bit I can show you the benefits and down falls to running a large cam. I can't drive much because the insuranse company limited my Mileage for the year.
hey so where do u live at? im about 45 mins north of portland. but i dont mind the travel.
hey so where do u live at? im about 45 mins north of portland. but i dont mind the travel.
smokinponcho73
11-07-2009, 05:25 AM
I live in Newberg. If you are on I-5 get off on tigard exit and head west on HWY 99W about 15-20 miles through tigard, king city then sherwood and Newberg is next.
zlicious94
11-07-2009, 01:36 PM
i must say its mighty tempting lol. it wont be cam only though i will definatly get the heads to go with it. i hear tommy can make them run great too.
Well its a proven package not just what tommy can do with tuning. Ya the tune is important but like I said its just a proven h/c combo but rember you need more air in with that setup which means stock tb and ls6 intake will be choking the motor for air. So def check the 92/92 then it will scream!!!!
Well its a proven package not just what tommy can do with tuning. Ya the tune is important but like I said its just a proven h/c combo but rember you need more air in with that setup which means stock tb and ls6 intake will be choking the motor for air. So def check the 92/92 then it will scream!!!!
02sslayer
11-07-2009, 09:17 PM
Well its a proven package not just what tommy can do with tuning. Ya the tune is important but like I said its just a proven h/c combo but rember you need more air in with that setup which means stock tb and ls6 intake will be choking the motor for air. So def check the 92/92 then it will scream!!!!
ya i for sure dude. my ideal setup would be ms3/5.3 or 2.5 ls6, fast 90/90 ported, 4.11 gears, plus pulleys and lightened flywheel, and possibly a maf delete and 104 mm lid. those are just some ideas ive been mulling over.
ya i for sure dude. my ideal setup would be ms3/5.3 or 2.5 ls6, fast 90/90 ported, 4.11 gears, plus pulleys and lightened flywheel, and possibly a maf delete and 104 mm lid. those are just some ideas ive been mulling over.
zlicious94
11-07-2009, 09:40 PM
Ya that would be sick for sure! Hey or you could just throw some giggle juice on her and call it good for about 1/3 the price and run 11's all day :corn:
02sslayer
11-07-2009, 11:38 PM
Ya that would be sick for sure! Hey or you could just throw some giggle juice on her and call it good for about 1/3 the price and run 11's all day :corn:
hell with that setup you could run low 11s. i was thinking about doing a 100shot just for track use. the downside being i would have to install a damn roll bar and i dont want that.
hell with that setup you could run low 11s. i was thinking about doing a 100shot just for track use. the downside being i would have to install a damn roll bar and i dont want that.