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silverM6TA
11-06-2009, 11:56 AM
Has anyone else every thought about selling their car? Just quitting on this lsx thing. Just not worrying about cars anymore? I think I'm about to that point. It seems like my car is always broken. It seems like every part I buy from ppl on this site i get ripped off and buy something that is broken. It just seems like there is so much more i could invest my money in. Another thing is there is NOBODY here in central arkansas that knows anything about cars. Nobody can tune, build, or anything. There are no drag tracks thats over 1000ft. Its pretty lonely out here. Its like i cant find something to keep me attatched to my car anymore. Has anybody else ever had this feeling? I think I'm almost done with the whole car scene. :(

Just needing to vent over this. LOL


DownSouthWS6
11-06-2009, 12:54 PM
i wouldnt get rid of my car just cause the lack of car enthusiasts in the area. but if its causing you more grief than pleasure i guess id sell it.

RPM WS6
11-06-2009, 01:11 PM
Has anyone else every thought about selling their car?

Most of us have, at one point or another. Frustration sets in, and sometimes it just seems easier to walk away. I've gone that route many times with many cars....of the 17 cars I've had, 13 of them I've sold.

Just quitting on this lsx thing.

Well, there going to be a challenge with any platform of cars or engines, it's not just the LS1s.

Just not worrying about cars anymore? I think I'm about to that point.

In the past, when I'd get frustrated with a car, I'd say stuff like that. Then after selling the car, I realized that there was no way in hell I'd be able to stay away from the whole car thing for more than a few weeks. I'd automatically be looking for another car without even thinking about it. And the excitement I'd feel every time I found a new car I liked was like a drug addiction. After a couple times of trying to take a break, it became clear to me that I'm in the hobby for life. There is no escape. I've just given in to temptation. LOL.


It seems like my car is always broken.

Sometimes a particular car just isn't worth it any more. I've also opted to move on from certain cars that just seemed to problematic. But on the other hand, sometimes a car just hits an age where it's going to need some stuff....all at once....but then once you get past that it runs great for a very long time. It's a chance you take, but remember all cars are machines, and every machine eventually wears out and needs repair. You can't escape that unless you buy a brand new car every few years. If you REALLY love a particular car though, it'll be worth keeping it fixed up (within reason of course, some cars are just lemons).

It seems like every part I buy from ppl on this site i get ripped off and buy something that is broken.

This is one reason why I don't buy very many used parts. Actually, I almost never buy used parts....unless I can see them in person and it's not a wear item. It's frustrating enough to chase down a problem with your car and fix it, then having to do the job several times because the parts you bought were bad is just not worth it to me. I try to buy new whenever I can, just to avoid this.

It just seems like there is so much more i could invest my money in.

Like what though? Honestly, when I mentioned above that in the past I too have had thoughts of leaving the hobby, one of the first things that made me realize this wasn't going to happen, was the fact that there's really nothing else I want to spend spare cash on. Every time I get a bit of extra money all I can think about it buying another car or parts for the cars I already have. Nothing else, other than basic necessities and some savings, seems more important or valuable to use my money on....not vacations, not other hobbies, nothing.


Another thing is there is NOBODY here in central arkansas that knows anything about cars. Nobody can tune, build, or anything.

Then your only option is to become that person yourself, or travel to get things done. If you really want it done, you'll find a way.

There are no drag tracks thats over 1000ft. Its pretty lonely out here.

Drag racing is great, but it's not the only fun thing you can have a car for. I haven't built a car for track use in over 5 years. I just enjoy setting them up as street cruisers now. Honestly, I don't even have to drive my cars to get pleasure from them. Sometimes I just sit in the garage looking at them... like my own personal car show. Yeah I know, I'm not normal. I'm ok with that. ;)

Its like i cant find something to keep me attatched to my car anymore. Has anybody else ever had this feeling? I think I'm almost done with the whole car scene. :(

This is one feeling I've never really had. No matter how hard I've tried to detach myself the hobby, it never works. I always find something to be attached to. Now, I understand losing attachment to a particular car after you've had enough problems with it, or if your interest in that type of car has faded. In those cases I've just moved on to another car. But even when I've told myself that I want to take a break from the hobby, my body and mind won't let me. There is nothing I'd rather be doing, or thinking about, or spending money on. It's just part of me, and I can't turn it off even if I wanted to. Maybe part of it is the fact that every friend I have is also heavily involved in the hobby, maybe part of it is the fact I'm a crazy obsessed m'fer that just loves cars, who knows.

Just needing to vent over this. LOL No problem, damn I didn't realize how much crap I wrote. Haha. :D


Castrellon
11-06-2009, 01:11 PM
How far is the nearest 1/4 mile track? How far is the nearest highly recomended tuner shop? I drove 800 miles to get my stuff done at LGM.

silverM6TA
11-06-2009, 01:30 PM
not in the state. IM located rite smack dab in the middle of this redneck infested state. The roads suck. Im always getting paint chips, im always getting chunks of dried mud flung onto my car. It sucks here.

Nearest 1/4 mile is memphis, about 2 1/2 hours away. Nearest Tuner That i know and have friends who have experience with is about 3 hrs away.

I'll still be a part of this site if i do decide to sell my car. But i doubt ill get another for a long time. Im still young. I could buy a house. pay for school, and i have other hobbies. Its just getting rediculous with my car. Im trying to get the rearend fixed. My clutch is going out so that'll be next. Then, the suspension i bought is f'ed up. It's a long list. I guess im kinda looking forward to getting all that fixed with some good shit. lol

bad_408_vert
11-06-2009, 01:49 PM
I know what you mean.

I had various issues with my car. I finally saved up enough for a 408 build and now the 6 banger camaro needed a new fuel pump, starter, ICM 5 months ago.

Cam, crank sensors about an year n half ago.

I just feel that my car sits in shops more than driving on the road. Sometimes its for serious things that shouldn't be bad and other times for regular wear n tear like ball joints, brakes, alignment.

Yes machinery goes bad eventually but its ridiculous all of this stuff thats gone bad at 60k for a car that's not even driven daily.

Shit like this makes me want to hang up the towel on the car, or hobby itself.

usmc320
11-06-2009, 01:50 PM
Sounds like your other hobbies are more important to you. Sell the car and invest time/money in some of your other interests then. I'm a car guy. I enjoy building, working on, and driving vehicles whether they be cars, trucks, or motorcycles, so that's what I invest my time in. I don't care about the local car scene. I don't join car clubs or anything, because for me it's not about socializing with people of similar interests. It's for my own personal enjoyment. To me it seems like other interests bring you more enjoyment than your car does.

nitr0racing21
11-06-2009, 01:56 PM
Don't give up and if you do PM me I night by it.


I got my car last october:

Feb 1st 09 rear and trans went got it back feb 12th
feb 12th trans guy didnt put the converter in right got it back mid march

june 18th got in a accident with it got it back late july
first week in august blew the rear but really was the trans
got it back augst 12th sept 4th blew the motor put the car in the garage and start working on it in october finsh this past sunday and well.... monday I totaled it so remember it can be worse

sea-level
11-06-2009, 05:04 PM
I never feel that way. But then again mine is not a daily. If it isnt running right I put it in the garage and carry on. With the lack of car people in your area you should think about the fact that you are the coolest guy there because you have a LS1 car :)

97ta383
11-06-2009, 05:14 PM
I got like that with my cammed and stalled lt1 and sold it before buying my ws6 i missed having a fast good looking car so much. I sold the lt1 and got a ford ranger that was a nice truck but i just wanted a fast car again and traded it in for my 02 ws6 and never looked back!

baalic
11-06-2009, 05:26 PM
Don't give up and if you do PM me I night by it.


I got my car last october:

Feb 1st 09 rear and trans went got it back feb 12th
feb 12th trans guy didnt put the converter in right got it back mid march

june 18th got in a accident with it got it back late july
first week in august blew the rear but really was the trans
got it back augst 12th sept 4th blew the motor put the car in the garage and start working on it in october finsh this past sunday and well.... monday I totaled it so remember it can be worse



dude...don't share any luck with me..please.........keep it all to yourself!!! LOL

DCC!!
11-06-2009, 05:27 PM
Don't give up and if you do PM me I night by it.


I got my car last october:

Feb 1st 09 rear and trans went got it back feb 12th
feb 12th trans guy didnt put the converter in right got it back mid march

june 18th got in a accident with it got it back late july
first week in august blew the rear but really was the trans
got it back augst 12th sept 4th blew the motor put the car in the garage and start working on it in october finsh this past sunday and well.... monday I totaled it so remember it can be worse

holy shit!! that sucks ass dude! i feel for ya!

99LS6SS
11-06-2009, 05:57 PM
no shit man, that would suck. I guess I can't say much I had my car for a month and the motor blew, i still owed like a little over 10 on it, but insurance paid for most of it and I bought it back. Sometimes I wanna trade it for a truck, cuz I could probably have more fun in a truck around here, but then I like going fast, so idk what i wanna do with it. You need money to go fast, and i do not have that

therealthatguy
11-06-2009, 05:59 PM
move to dallas! i think alot of your woes will disappear, their are a shit ton of lsx shops, a million car enthusiasts, i hear the ricekiller meets are something badass, and i'm sure once you're around all these other lsx'ers and start racing(they have alot of tracks too) you'll get the motivation needed to mod your car, looking at your sig you're damn near stock, once you start to work on your own car putting in the time, money, blood, and sweat, i dont think their will be an attachment issue anymore.

eseibel67
11-06-2009, 06:37 PM
Anything mechanical is going to need maintenence and repairs.

It's a PITA, I've been there - and said to hell with cars a long time ago to pursue other interests.

I'm back into it now, though.

If your heart's not in it, it sucks. It's o.k. to give it a rest.

DownSouthWS6
11-06-2009, 07:03 PM
man now that i think about it i'm in the same boat as you (young, in college, wanting to buy a house, other hobbies). i love my car (which is broken right now) but i'll never get back the money i dump into it, and it's not gonna help me get anywhere in life. you can always get another car and if it's just not appealing to you now and you don't think you'd miss it too much, i'd say let her go.

SparkyJJO
11-06-2009, 07:06 PM
I'm sorta there with my Camaro. Yeah it isn't an LS1, it is only a 3800, but every time I think that I've had it and look to replace it, I for some reason fix it again and keep driving it. Maybe I'm just looking for that point that RPM WS6 mentioned, where all the stuff is fixed and it won't break for a long time again. I know the LS1 would be so much better, yet, for some reason, I can't quite bring myself to replace this thing, even though I'm now in a position that I probably could do so...

Somehow, I'll bet that if you do sell it, you'll be like 90% of everyone else here - regret it a little down the road and be looking to buy another one!

01FbTaWs6
11-06-2009, 07:14 PM
its very simple. Once your honestly a "car" guy and its in your blood, there is no escaping it. Ive put my trans am up for sale 3 times, and everytime within a WEEKS time have taken it back down, because I REALLY dont want to sell it. I love that car! I was going to save and build a 408 for it after it lost a rod here a few months back, guess what, i cant wait that long to drive it. Looking at it every day in the garage without a motor.... I found another heads/cam LS1 and that will be in it for spring time :-) I just cant not drive the car, its driving me insane!!

LS1TA385
11-06-2009, 08:20 PM
My opinion, unless there is a financial situation where it would be better to sell and invest in housing etc, I would move instead of selling the car. You know as well as I do that making your car badass is not enough to satisfy yourself. You have to have a group of hardcore gearhead cheerleaders to say " hey your car is nasty bad " or " I heard your car ran in the 11's". In other words its like catching a huge fish and there is nobody around to see it.

Keith_Shapiro
11-06-2009, 08:36 PM
i sometimes say i could give up on the car, the LSX scene and get another one....then i leave 4000 miles worth of tread at a roll, choke on smoke inside the car park it and....i just cant get rid of her!!! lol

silverM6TA
11-06-2009, 08:46 PM
I think alot of this is coming from me modding the car. Every part i get is broken. But i do buy used parts from honest SOUNDING guys on here. Its been out of commision for 2 months and when it is running, it sucks bc my slave cylinder is going out and my suspension sucks. I think the rest is the lack of lsx ppl here in arkansas. I dont wanna sell the car bc ive been through so much with it in 2 years but then i do want to sell it bc i know i would be better off. Im caught in the middle. Just not sure.

Keith_Shapiro
11-06-2009, 08:48 PM
where in BFE are you?

JeaneGrae
11-07-2009, 01:05 PM
I know exactly how you feel! I am in the military and was stuck in the Netherlands for 2 yrs and had 1 of 6 fbodies in the whole country. I got luck and found a Corvette Club and they had a decent mechanic but it was expensive as shit to get any work done.

Now they sent me to Minot ND where the nearest 1/4 mile track is 4 hrs away and the nearest tuner is in South Dakota, Illinois, or Minnesota! I can only access small chevy dealers and they told me an ls6 swap was immpossible to do, it was designed only for the Z06! LMAO!

I have rebuilt my rear end twice, first time with an Auburn posi, this time i went with an Eaton. I had what i thought was a major problem because they diagnosed it wrong. The dealer told me i had a cracked head and that was my reason for over heating. Come to find out aftter 6 mths of haveing -30 degree weather the t-stat was sticking and the water pump bearings where whinning and the pump was leaking. I never knew because the weather was so bad i couldn't tell until it got warm. Needless to say i was so frustrated i went out and bought a 2000 C5 which had always wanted.

I have since gotten the car fixed and love them both. they are totally different animals and i feel the TA is a tad bit stronger in the upper rpm ranges. I found a mechanic that works at a pontiac shop about 40 min away and get pretty good labor rates now.

To make a long story short, these are some of the best bang for buck cars ever made! I posted the question "Has the ls1 lost its street cedibility?" just a take a look at it and read all the replies! Keep your ride, fix her up, and get in a network with some credible people! Do research on their seller ratings and make sure its what you want to do! I love my Vette, but the TA will always be my first love!

Striker
11-07-2009, 01:19 PM
Has anyone else every thought about selling their car? Just quitting on this lsx thing. Just not worrying about cars anymore? I think I'm about to that point. It seems like my car is always broken. It seems like every part I buy from ppl on this site i get ripped off and buy something that is broken. It just seems like there is so much more i could invest my money in. Another thing is there is NOBODY here in central arkansas that knows anything about cars. Nobody can tune, build, or anything. There are no drag tracks thats over 1000ft. Its pretty lonely out here. Its like i cant find something to keep me attatched to my car anymore. Has anybody else ever had this feeling? I think I'm almost done with the whole car scene. :(

Just needing to vent over this. LOL

I live in a rice infested town with one track that is an hr away. The only non ricer cars are Mustangs and they are everywhere by a dozen. Also, all of the tuning shops are Mustang shops anyways. I feel the same as you lots of times.

I'm the only F-Body in my entire area that I know of. There is a guy with a beat down black WS6 that is part of the ricer club too so I dont have much in common with him.

I say do your thing and screw everyone!

sway99bird
11-07-2009, 03:28 PM
Pack your shit and move the TEXAS !!!!!!!!!!!

BrownBoy
11-07-2009, 05:43 PM
It seems like my car is always broken.

Trade it in for an RX-7 and you'll come RUNNING back! :eek2:

In all honesty, I think everyone here has a certain hate/love relationship with their cars. Most people here have put way more money into their cars than is necessary but its because we secretly love dealing with these problems.

Let's face it, anyone on this forum could easily sell their cars and buy Honda Civics and get from point A to point B for the next 10 years without any problems....but we don't because its what we love.

In all relationships, there will be ups and downs and cars are included under that same umbrella. Keep pushing through it, take the problems one at a time, and remember that its ALWAYS worth it in the end.

Hardway
11-11-2009, 11:52 AM
I know exactly how you feel and have been in your shoes many times. I sold my '69 Camaro Z28 clone about 5 weeks ago and said I was taking a real break from the car hobby for awhile. I sold the '69 since it was basically a $20K toy that sat in the garage and got driven 2 or 3 times per month. I could not park it anywhere out of sight and it had no AC or heat so it could never serve as a real second car. So I sold it, got good money for it, and was happy to see it go. As said above the whole car thing gets in your blood, its a disease, an itch you have to scratch at some point and believe me, you will.

So last weekend I scratched my itch and picked up a friend's '99 Z28 M6 with 185K miles. Some thought I was nuts for picking such a high mileage car but I got it for $4700. It still runs and looks great, its 99% stock, and with the money I did not spend on the car I can spend a little to make it just how I want. First off a full suspension rebuild and upgrade is in the works, got some chrome ZR1s for it, soon to be followed by an after market shifter and an SS hood later down the road. I know I will be putting $2K in to it but to have $7K - $8K in a car that is exactly how I want it and could serve as a DD at a moments notice seemed like the perfect new toy for me.

If you like your TA and if you will be taking a large financial loss by selling it I would say keep it. If you just hate it and can get a decent number on it then sell it. You can always buy another one. Heck, I have owned 4 '69 Camaro's. It sounds like a big part of your unhappiness is where you live. Like many have said above maybe its time to search for a job in another state & city that offers more for the car hobby enthusiast. I live just north of Austin Texas and used to live in the Dallas area. Austin has a good car scene but nothing like Dallas or Houston. Plus you have better weather, access to shops, tracks, and most of all people that are in the hobby. I am member of a great club here in Austin but usually any big city has some good clubs.

Can you sell your car and invest your money in to something more worthwhile, sure! Will you have as much fun doing it, only you can answer that question. Just some more to think about. Good luck with what ever your decide to do.

98Z2885
11-11-2009, 12:22 PM
I hit that point a year and a half ago. I sold off my Fox body, and bought a bronco, bought a SN95 cobra, sold it. And then bought a 02 F150. I loved the truck, but I was really missing the power of a V8 sports car. And I had been wanting a LS1 since 01 when I tried to get a 25k bank loan on a 99 SS. I finally got it, in may and I dont care if the car has to sit for the next 10 years. I am not going to sell it. I love it to death. And this is coming from a Ford guy. Dont do it, its really not worth it. You will kick your self the first time you see another LS1 car. I did it when I saw a clean fox body. Its not going to be worth it man. Its you choice though. Just think long and hard before you do it.

RPM WS6
11-11-2009, 01:56 PM
I used my '02 Z28 as a daily driver for a long time, as did the previous owner. It's been completely stock other than an air lid, muffler, and SS wheels. I received the maintenance log with the car, and between the both of us very little has broken in the 96,000 miles this car has seen. Actually, the only major repairs have been the A/C clutch (bad bearings at ~80k miles), and the water pump (started leaking at 90k miles). Otherwise, nothing but fluid changes, filters, battery and brakes for nearly 100k miles.

On the other hand, I broke TONS of stuff on my old WS6. But I can't blame the car, it was all due to mods I had done and abusive driving/racing. If you want the car to not break, then leave it mostly stock. Reliability on these cars is great until you start with serious mods.

1badzo
11-17-2009, 08:51 AM
If you sell it you will be back, i have done it 5 times.

RevGTO
11-17-2009, 09:45 AM
I broke TONS of stuff on my old WS6. But I can't blame the car, it was all due to mods I had done and abusive driving/racing. If you want the car to not break, then leave it mostly stock. Reliability on these cars is great until you start with serious mods.+1. This is the wisdom on the subject.

Z-28
11-20-2009, 06:43 PM
It seems like my car is always broken.

Whatever u do, don't sale it and get a FORD. they break a lot.

DVS99TRANS
11-21-2009, 06:13 AM
^^^ lol. Dude I'm up in Kodiak Alaska for a couple years and brought my 99 TA with me and left my WS6 back home in Delaware. It sucks, one car is around 4700 miles away and can't drive it. And well it has started winter up here and no chance in hell can I drive my 99 TA up here lol until the spring. No F'ing way, but am not getting rid of either of them. I have had offers on both vehicles an refuse to sell because I know that I will regret getting rid of either car. If you are selling it because a lack of cars in the area, don't. If still love your car, keep it. You sell it now and the money that you'll be dumping for another one later on you'll never get back either. I have only seen a handful of f bodys up here in Alaska and me getting to the track when its open is a 2 day trip. A day there and one back with a 10 hour ferry ride each way. Shit sucks but am not personally getting rid of mine. Do what you feel you have to do fella :D