Street Racing & Kill Stories - What do you think 03 Cobra VS 02 Z28




Billnz28
02-09-2004, 04:55 PM
Ok this guy I know has a 03 cobra . I asked him to race back in the summer but he declined said he wanted to mod his car so he backed out. Well now hes telling everyone I never called him out and hes telling everyone how he is gonna own me cause he just spent 600 bucks on his car for the mods ive listed below. so now he wants to race. The cobra is being modded as we speak and so Is my Z so who you guys think will win.

The cobra will have 4.10 gears, chip, pulley and a shifter ( will still have stock exhaust).

My Z is getting 4.10 or 3.73 gears,tsp 231/237 cam (already have the cam), flow tech long tubes and hooker catback, nitto drag radials.

both cars are M-6 and will be from a dig and a roll and Im the better driver of the two. This race probably wont take place till after the weather breaks. about a month.I will film it though

Chime in and tell me if I can beat him or not.


unit213
02-09-2004, 05:21 PM
It's a tough call. He can run a high 11 with those mods if he can drive.

BigBronco
02-09-2004, 05:23 PM
yep, drivers race, if he does well in his driving skills, he might just take you. But get some bad ass sticky tires, and do not break your rear axle. then you can fuck his world up. Try to slap some heads on your car as well!! hahaha Good luck man

Gray


Berman8or
02-09-2004, 05:40 PM
From a stop you might have a chance, from a roll, nope. All depends on the drivers as well.

Billnz28
02-09-2004, 05:46 PM
I know a guy with full bolt on M-6 with a tr 224 cam and ran a 11.9 something . SO I think my car will be pretty quick. I have another friend that has a 03 and went 12.47 with just drag radials after chip pulley he went 12.65 couldnt launch the car and trap speed was 110 both times.

I also have a set of drag lites and et drags Might have to use them

unit213
02-09-2004, 05:46 PM
From a stop you might have a chance, from a roll, nope. All depends on the drivers as well.
I would say this is a good assumption. Make sure you run him from a dig. Do NOT go from a 45-55mph roll or you're toast.

Berman8or
02-09-2004, 05:57 PM
I know a guy with full bolt on M-6 with a tr 224 cam and ran a 11.9 something . SO I think my car will be pretty quick. I have another friend that has a 03 and went 12.47 with just drag radials after chip pulley he went 12.65 couldnt launch the car and trap speed was 110 both times.

I also have a set of drag lites and et drags Might have to use them

Yeah, my buddies 03 ran a 12.1 @ 119 with a chip, 2.93 pulley, cat back, and drag radials. That was only getting a 1.9 60 foot as well.

unit213
02-09-2004, 06:01 PM
Yeah, my buddies 03 ran a 12.1 @ 119 with a chip, 2.93 pulley, cat back, and drag radials. That was only getting a 1.9 60 foot as well.
I ran a very casual 11.85 with only a chip, 2.93 pulley, and a k&n filter on F1's. Go from a dig, trust me.

SouthFL.02.SS
02-09-2004, 06:10 PM
I'm glad to see you have a Spec III. You're gonna count on it to win your race.
Also, count on him NOT having Drag Radials for you to win your race.

If he's runnin' similar to UNIT's casual 11.85 pass, then you're not gonna win. Sorry. No can do, at least from a dig, you would have to cut a 1.7x 60' time kinda launch to even compete, and cutting that kinda launch on the street is not the easiest thing to do.

I suggest, if you want to win:

A) 100 shot

or

B) Heads


This is coming from a guy who has a near identical setup to yours (still on stock clutch though). I know what my car's capable of, and if high 11's are to be had, conditions must be optimal.

Berman8or
02-09-2004, 06:15 PM
I ran a very casual 11.85 with only a chip, 2.93 pulley, and a k&n filter on F1's.

Thats awsome. What was your MPH? I love 03-04 Cobras. :)

MillaTK
02-09-2004, 06:15 PM
Yeah, dig, you may have him, if you truly are the better driver as you say you are. From a roll, I think its easier to not suck so much, so he may be able to pretty much just mash the pedal and go... I would say his car is slightly faster, so you just have to drive that much better... Then again what do I know? I own a 17 second car.

MillaTK
02-09-2004, 06:17 PM
I'm glad to see you have a Spec III. You're gonna count on it to win your race.
Also, count on him NOT having Drag Radials for you to win your race.

If he's runnin' similar to UNIT's casual 11.85 pass, then you're not gonna win. Sorry. No can do, at least from a dig, you would have to cut a 1.7x 60' time kinda launch to even compete, and cutting that kinda launch on the street is not the easiest thing to do.

I suggest, if you want to win:

A) 100 shot

or

B) Heads


This is coming from a guy who has a near identical setup to yours (still on stock clutch though). I know what my car's capable of, and if high 11's are to be had, conditions must be optimal.

Yeah, good advice, seeing as you have pretty much the same setup... Though, I bet he can drive better than you can... cuz you still havent hit the 11's ;)

SouthFL.02.SS
02-09-2004, 06:17 PM
... Then again what do I know? I own a 17 second car.


:jest:

SouthFL.02.SS
02-09-2004, 06:18 PM
Yeah, good advice, seeing as you have pretty much the same setup... Though, I bet he can drive better than you can... cuz you still havent hit the 11's ;)


I'm sure he can. :)

SMOKIN01TA
02-09-2004, 10:10 PM
I know a guy with full bolt on M-6 with a tr 224 cam and ran a 11.9 something . SO I think my car will be pretty quick. I have another friend that has a 03 and went 12.47 with just drag radials after chip pulley he went 12.65 couldnt launch the car and trap speed was 110 both times.

I also have a set of drag lites and et drags Might have to use them
you should be somwhere in the 11's with the tsp cam, i think i would be mid 11's with that cam minimum, if you drive good, you could do it

A502slo
02-09-2004, 10:34 PM
you should be somwhere in the 11's with the tsp cam, i think i would be mid 11's with that cam minimum, if you drive good, you could do it
yea watch that cobra, my friend has a 03 cobra, he has air filter,xpipe and pulley, he dynoed 428rwhp. and ran a 11.89 om stock tires, so becarefull, ur z maybe fast be got the power over you, hope from a dead stop that he get alot of wheel hop and back of alil then u can pull him and hope by then to later for him to catch up. anyways good luck

SMOKIN01TA
02-09-2004, 10:46 PM
the cobras also have the weight of a tank when stock.
unit what does your car weigh. i think they are like 3800 lbs or so.

MillaTK
02-09-2004, 11:09 PM
yeah, i think something like that

BigBronco
02-09-2004, 11:42 PM
yep, and Dan (unit) is built like a fuckin tank himself as well!

O'dell
02-10-2004, 12:26 AM
Hey BillnZ28, I don't know abou Richmond but in Louisville there's Cobra's everywhere b/c of the Ford plant here, and in early November an '03 Cobra, 03 ZO6, and my Z raced and needless to say I got my ass handed to me but the '03 Cobra had atleast a car length of the ZO6 if not more, and all it had was 4.11's, chip, and exhaust. Goodluck though, if your the better driver should be close.

C_B64
02-10-2004, 07:15 AM
I've driven the Z-28 several times, and ridin in the Cobra a few, and the way they sit right now before they are modded, I think would be one heck of a race, but with drivers ability definitely determining the race, and that would go for the Z-28. After they are modded, I Think the Z-28 will beat a couple of lengths from a dig, and it would be a heck of a race from a roll. The Z-28 gets the nod from me, I will be there for the race, and we will definitely get a video of it. Hopefully he wont back out this time...... :devil:

King02SS
02-10-2004, 10:04 AM
Drivers race. Best of luck to ya. :cheers:

99C5JA
02-10-2004, 11:33 AM
I think a lot it will depend on how well the stock exhaust on the Cobra flows. The few boosted cars I've had experience with responded really well to opening up the exhaust. If the exhaust doesn't flow well then the pulley may not make much difference (you can't put air in that you can't get out). If it does bad news for the Z28. I'm sure the Cobra guys can give us some insight here.

WECIV
02-10-2004, 11:55 AM
Bill, I would get a 12 bolt or something equally as strong, first!!! You break your rear end and a fat kid on a skooter can beat you!!!

Billnz28
02-10-2004, 04:16 PM
The pulley the guy will be getting will be a stock lightining pulley

Berman8or
02-10-2004, 04:21 PM
Yeah, that the 2.93.

KCamaro
02-10-2004, 04:29 PM
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Launch well, and drive right, hope he has an itch in his nose, and you should win. Best of luck. :drive:

C_B64
02-10-2004, 05:29 PM
Bill, I would get a 12 bolt or something equally as strong, first!!! You break your rear end and a fat kid on a skooter can beat you!!!

He knows all about that dont ya Billnz28, He's broken the carrier once, and then an axle the next, This will be on the street so he should burn up before breaking anything......

LS1-TCB
02-10-2004, 06:15 PM
Tell your friend I'm his huckleberry if you can't beat him...I'm just down the road from you in Berea, and I've got a little somethin' for him...

Billnz28
02-10-2004, 11:13 PM
Ill do that, I think I can handle him.
I also have another project z Im gonna start working on for just the track
it will have a 409 stroker in it.

MillaTK
02-10-2004, 11:20 PM
Ill do that, I think I can handle him.
I also have another project z Im gonna start working on for just the track
it will have a 409 stroker in it.

Nice... sounds like fun :cheers:

C_B64
02-11-2004, 07:29 AM
Ill do that, I think I can handle him.
I also have another project z Im gonna start working on for just the track
it will have a 409 stroker in it.

I think you mean we..... :D

sambandit
02-11-2004, 08:14 AM
Without a doubt, go from a dig. If you can launch, that's your only chance. With a pulley he will be pushing 450 hp and will get you from a roll I think. Going from a dig makes it closer to a drivers race. If he has street tires, he's never going to get that car to hook up with a pulley and 4:10s. Too tall of a gear IMHO. BTW, a coupe weighs about 3650 lbs. I've got mine down to just above 3500 with a few weight mods. It'll be fun regardless of the outcome.

C_B64
02-11-2004, 04:15 PM
Just talked to a buddie of mine that talked to the owner of the Cobra and said he bought some 4.30 gears instead of the 4.10 that we originally thought........

EvilSVT
02-11-2004, 04:20 PM
if he is not putting an exhaust as you say ... the chip and pulley are probably goin got utilize about half the potential of what they can actually do .... so without an exhaust on the 03 i'd say you have a damn good chance ..... good luck ... remember this ... whenyou race ... pretend that you are running from the cops ... just fuckin drive hard man...

mike c.
02-11-2004, 04:53 PM
get a hose and spray the piss out of his ass. 10bolt,4.10's and sticky tires could= you walking from a broken rear. goodluck to ya man.

dragonZ28
02-11-2004, 06:34 PM
The Cobra can possibly pull off a high 11. You can do this too. I have seen cam and bolt-on LS1's pull 11.6's. It will be close, but no one will get their ass completely handed to them.

dragonZ28
02-11-2004, 06:39 PM
Hey C B64, What did your friend say about his 03 Cobra that was supposed to beat me at the track that time? I beat his time. He pulled a 12.5, and I pulled a shitty 12.3 best that day. I still beat him, and I heard nothing from him.

Billnz28
02-11-2004, 08:04 PM
he said the car wouldnt hook up and he also said he had his chip reburned becasue the burned it for the wrong size pulley was pulling 2.0 short times . the guy isnt a very good driver either but thats part of it right

C_B64
02-12-2004, 07:16 AM
yeah, that guy said it wouldn't hook the only way he could bring it out was to dump the clutch, and then let off the gas and then get back on it. He said the chip was burnt for a larger pulley as well, I dunno.... he didn't say much about your times.....

RedDemon2
02-12-2004, 08:10 AM
Depends on the driver! :drive: You'll have a good shot in beating the 03 Cobra :punch: . Cobra's are known to run high to mid 11's with a few mods, but it all comes down to the drivers and a good set of drag radials or slicks.

Good Luck!

4mula1
02-12-2004, 08:13 AM
I'm surprised they're putting 4.11's in Cobras w/that much hp.
Seems like too much gear with a modified Cobra.

Raben
02-12-2004, 01:47 PM
go from a dig, if you're the better driver you'll probably get him.

From a roll I have no idea. I would think that the LS1 would have pulled him down on top even from a 50 roll. He would get the lead really quick but I would think you would be accelerating faster than the Cobra by 90+ . . .

but then again I could be completely wrong lol.


Good luck and let us all know!!

chrdij
02-12-2004, 03:47 PM
Simple Math Here, 03 Cobra Vs. 02 Z28+spray= Kill For The Z

unit213
02-12-2004, 04:15 PM
but then again I could be completely wrong lol.



:nod:

Sax10310
02-13-2004, 10:26 AM
Will be a drivers race.

Definately go from a stop.

Good Luck.

KCamaro
02-13-2004, 10:29 AM
Go from a dig and drive your tail off. Your best bet is to put down alot of ground quick and shut it down before his eaton has too much time to cry.

baddogz28
02-13-2004, 02:29 PM
If I can smoke a blown/LT 00 vette from a dig, you can spank a Cobra from a dig- he'll never hook it up.

Billnz28
02-13-2004, 02:52 PM
Thats what I was thinking