Automotive News, Media & Press - Pontiac Turnaround - 2005 GTO Sales Hot




TriShield
07-06-2005, 08:19 PM
More horsepower, scoops move GTOs

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What do you do when your resurrected muscle car turns out to be a weakling in the marketplace? Add a pair of sleek hood scoops and some horsepower.

Sales of the 400-hp Pontiac GTO -- 50 more than the 2004 model -- are up 76.9 percent through May, and dealers are short of the Australia-made coupes.

Early sales had been disappointing since the December 2003 launch. For the first five months of 2004, GTOs sold at a rate that translated to just 7,300 a year -- well below GM's target of 16,000. This year, Pontiac says, it expects to sell 12,000 to 14,000.

Pontiac spokesman Jim Hopson says Los Angeles is the country's hottest GTO market -- an unusual feat for a General Motors car.

Critics griped about the 2004 model, which didn't have hood scoops or true dual exhausts. Says Hopson: "We listened."

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http://www.autoextremist.com/arrowup.gifhttp://www.autoextremist.com/arrowdown.gifGeneral Motors. The world's largest automaker, under the gun from every possible angle, blew the lid off of the U.S. market in June with its "Employee Discount for Everyone" promotion, selling an incredible 558,092 new cars and trucks - up a staggering 46.9 percent compared to year-ago numbers. It was GM’s best sales month since September 1986.

GM's crushing sales performance included an all-time industry record for truck sales (382,601), which were up 68 percent. GM also led the industry in full-size pickup deliveries, with its Chevrolet Silverado up 102 percent. GM's car sales (175,491) were up 4 percent, with several new vehicles - including Cadillac STS, Chevrolet Cobalt and Aveo, Pontiac G6 and Buick LaCrosse - posting record sales results. GM's monster June sales performance spiked its share of the U.S. market to 33 percent, up dramatically from its 25.8 percent share in May.

Following this performance, GM announced late yesterday that it will extend the incentive program until Aug. 1, continuing to offer employee pricing levels on most 2005 vehicles, except for the all-of-a-sudden hot-selling Pontiac GTO (which we've repeatedly called the high-performance value of the year), Chevrolet Corvette and the Mastadon-like Hummer H1. The GM program was so popular that it caught its chief domestic competitors off guard - and Chrysler and Ford have now announced plans to offer similar discounts this month. GM insiders view this promotion as a last gasp-type of incentive program, a precursor to the company eventually going to a one-price "value proposition" selling strategy. GM has already announced lowered prices for the 2006 model year to get deals closer to the actual transaction prices, in an effort to position itself for the new, more competitive products coming in their portfolio.

The one key result from this latest GM program that's not getting enough play? Owners of competitive makes and imports are visiting GM showrooms in droves - the first time in, oh, maybe 25 years that this has happened. If GM does eventually get to a one-price selling strategy - where the components of the deal include GM offering vehicles featuring competitive quality, value, performance and design - with enough profit for its dealers - they may be on to something. If, however, this latest marketing idea is just the latest gimmick in a long line of sales gimmicks, GM will get closer to the point of no return - with nowhere else to go but down.

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jdustu
07-06-2005, 08:51 PM
More horsepower, scoops move GTOs

i wonder how many people think the hood scoops are where that 50 hp comes from:jest:

the dual exhaust tips look better too, i think

MadIceV8
07-06-2005, 10:47 PM
I always thought the GTO is was badass. Glad to finally see sales up for a quality car from GM :cool:.


zamboxl
07-07-2005, 12:31 PM
dude i dont care what anyone says the gto is awesome, the only problem we fbods had with it was that our f-bods wherent build as nice. Where our cars have cheap looking plastic the gto has nice looking red leather, where our cars have cheap looking leather they got swade man swade, for the love of all that is good and holy they got swade man SWADE ok i just said that like 10 times i hope thats the correct spelling if not pls correct my speakness lol :jest: putting on flame suit. :secret2:

actually let me make a correction the gto has one shortfall and that is that it is one heavy bastard it would be nice if it was lighter but thats all.

jdustu
07-07-2005, 12:38 PM
"suede" :)

zamboxl
07-07-2005, 02:26 PM
"suede" :)
yea yea that

98_Formula
07-07-2005, 03:23 PM
yea, they made some needed improvements, like dual exhaust.. i'm sorry but the exhaust goin out the one side (tho my buddy with his 04 GTO swears its still dual exhaust just out one side) looked like crap... the interior was really nice, i'm told the hood skoops aren't functional?? :confused: but still looks good... also the 400 hp ls2 was definitly needed, as the GTO's are tanks...

JS
07-07-2005, 03:38 PM
The hood,LS2 and better brakes are badass..

The rear dual exhauts looks horrible.
That gray cladding looks cheesy and the tips like ricer

abadss
07-07-2005, 04:24 PM
glad to see sales picking up for GM, hopefully this will get them pointed in the right direction. maybe they can come up with a answer to all the new mustang sales

bruddah_man_matt
07-08-2005, 05:46 AM
The hood,LS2 and better brakes are badass..

The rear dual exhauts looks horrible.
That gray cladding looks cheesy and the tips like ricer

You're just salty because you bought an 04. :jest:

However I am curious to know what exactly makes an exhaust tip "ricer?"

bruddah_man_matt
07-08-2005, 05:48 AM
yea, they made some needed improvements, like dual exhaust.. i'm sorry but the exhaust goin out the one side (tho my buddy with his 04 GTO swears its still dual exhaust just out one side) looked like crap... the interior was really nice, i'm told the hood skoops aren't functional?? :confused: but still looks good... also the 400 hp ls2 was definitly needed, as the GTO's are tanks...

The 04s did in fact have dual exhausts but as you can tell both pipes were routed to the left side of the rear valance. Most all Holdens have had their pipes exit on one side only for quite some time now. I believe Aussie Fords are the same way only they exit on the right hand side IIRC. Aussies don't seem to be obsessed with having holes on both ends of the their vehicles rear. :jest: I agree with the masses though. I prefer split duals at the rear and like the new look. My biggest gripe with the GTO is the fact that the fuel tank had to be relocated to the trunk. That severely limits space back there.

MetallicBluews6
07-08-2005, 09:26 AM
I am considering an 05 GTO.

demonspeed
07-08-2005, 12:07 PM
I'll buy a leftover 04 if the price is right.

TriShield
07-08-2005, 03:25 PM
I'll buy a leftover 04 if the price is right.

There's still around 200 left unsold.

dgformula2k
07-08-2005, 04:04 PM
My biggest gripe with the GTO is the fact that the fuel tank had to be relocated to the trunk. That severely limits space back there.
I hear ya there! That space is tiny for the size trunk that it is. Damn crash regs! I'm glad to see the GTO's sales pick up, it was getting embarrassing that GM would put out such a good car and no one buy it.

ss rally red
07-08-2005, 09:54 PM
There's still around 200 left unsold.

Bet that makes your day :bomb:

1970judge
07-09-2005, 09:16 AM
but with the cancellation of zeta the gto will be gone around 09 or so....so then what?..all wlel have is teh vette which by that time will prolly be even more outrageous..from a sales standpoint they are making good ground but what will tehy do then?..all is left is suvs vans trucks and a cobalt..think they will bring teh zeta back if sales continue?

demonspeed
07-09-2005, 09:30 AM
There's still around 200 left unsold.

I still can't decide if I could get one over a Cobra though... I need something faster than anything else I've had and I know the GTO won't be. I would like a red A4 GTO though for a DD. Who knows... maybe I'll get a promotion or something :jest:

y2k_ta
07-09-2005, 08:06 PM
Glad to hear they're selling well! Just saw an '04 Goat win a burnout contest at IRP last night. :)

qwikz28
07-12-2005, 12:21 AM
i bet the 04 didnt sell well cause word got out that the 05 would yield improvements

Super Speed
07-12-2005, 09:12 AM
Well, its a good thing those bastards at gm saw that muscle cars will sell if done right maybe they will realize that a forged internal or a dohc camaro will do miracles for killing that pesky little horse forged internal or dohc for the shelby, ls2 for the gt that sounds about right......

02-4.8
07-12-2005, 04:36 PM
I think the only 3 things that hurts the 04's so much was
1.) Everyone was expecting another fbody type car. They only payed attention to the outside of the car and never sat in one.
2.) Dealers fucked it up bad at first. Most had crazy marked ups.
3.) It was known pretty early that the 05 was getting the LS2, better brakes, bigger wheels, etc...

2000Hawk
07-19-2005, 08:11 PM
its true the 04 never had a chance. i never liked the look of the 04 i thought it was crap. then at a Pontiac dealer i worked at i finally sat in one and i was like damn this shits nice. i got to drive it and it felt like i was driving my car just with a nicer interior, and alot quieter obviously. then i saw the 05 and that really looked amazing especially with the Sports Appearance Package.

Dom
07-20-2005, 01:48 AM
The '04s were price gouged. Dealers themselves killed the sales. They do it with every hot product.

Shinkaze
07-20-2005, 11:51 AM
My Biggest problems with the GTO,

Useless Trunk
comfy back seats impossible to get into unless your legs zip off at the thigh.
Cadillac CTS-V weight without Cadillac CTS-V features and useability.
"Cruiser" suspension settings (for the love of god, all season tires?!?!?!?!)

Hopefully the 2007 GTO will fix this. That said I'm very very very happy to see the 2005 GTO finally selling like it should.

PS the looks are really starting to grow on me, looking forward to an updated look on the next gen car.

Brains
07-20-2005, 04:16 PM
Own a GTO, and you really start to appreciate its balance of power, comfort, and handling. My biggest gripe so far? The dump-truck steering rate. You have to turn the wheel 6 full turns to make a damned lane change!!! :lol:

JuStIn_Ws6
07-24-2005, 04:54 PM
Would you rather have an 04 GTO or an 05 GTO? Because I think the 05's look alot better!

dubrado
07-30-2005, 02:38 PM
got my 04' for 22k, I think I can find a place for that extra 8-10k that I saved by not going for an 05'

Dom
07-30-2005, 03:44 PM
Would you rather have an 04 GTO or an 05 GTO? Because I think the 05's look alot better!

Nevermind the looks, LS2 seals the deal. :hail: