Automotive News, Media & Press - 2007 Camaro - information and pictures

Just recieved info and some renderings of camaro redesign. Sounds like 2006 is possible unvieling and 2007 is the actual release, making it the 40th anniversary.

Heres what I got out of the R&T article:
GM is required to build the car in canada, possibly at the Oshawa assembly plant. Problem is only Front drive cars are being produced there. Thus, they are planning on developing a "Sigma-lite" platform based off of the caddy cts that would be a live rear axle version to underpin the camaro, impala, and monte carlo. They might just create a cost alternative to the Zeta platform though. Benefits to the monte carlo and impala being rear-drive would be that chevy could have a credible rear-drive sedan for police market and monte carlo could finally return to its reardrive heritage and become closer to its nascar version.

Engine choices so far are:
-3.9 ohv from chevy/pontiac-G6 for ex which would have ~240hp
-high feature 3.6 ohc (from cadillac/buick) ~240hp
-5.3L with roughly 300hp
-and of course 400hp LS2 for a possible SS model

GM said they were unsatisfied with the solstice launch since it spanned over 20months from concept to production so theyre looking to pace things much faster if they do a next gen camaro.

Well see

any pics?

yeah where are these pics?

Where did you recieve this info from and is it reliable. Waiting for pics.

According to my latest issue of M.T. the zeta plat form is dead :eyes: :eyes:

If it's only getting the 400HP LS2 (which is a whore now) it better weight 3400lbs or less. :judge:

I'm dying for a 5th gen f-car.

sorry for the delay my network locked me out. I was just sent the pics. Many noticable cues, but word is that GM isnt going for a fully retro look like the 05 mustang, something a bit more modern, but is also considering a look very reminiscent of its heritage due to the huge sales of the stang. The biggest thing is getting the toronto plant to churn out rear-drive cars. So newho hopefully we will indeed see a concept model soon. What do yall think?

btw the Zeta isnt dead its on hold, GM is looking for a cost-effective alternative to that platform.

Looks like they've got the right idea with those drawings. Tails/nose need a little bit of refining, but it looks spot on. I've said it before and I'll say it again- the body hump over the rear wheels is what MAKES a pony car. Its a defining characteristic, I think.

GM has to get out of its money problem before we are going to see any kind of affordable F-body replacement. This topic has been beat to death, until I see the ad from GM with fire coming out of the exhaust of a new F-body or its replacment and it is running over a mustang then I am saving for a used Vette.

i agree. Im planning on taking those renderings and smoothing them out to a "production" version as soon as I get my 3d sgi system back. The lights will likely NOT be hideaway. Also the exhaust tips will probly be less of a flush design with the bumper and not take the shape they do in that rendering. The bumpers will also likely incorporate a more "5mph"-friendly shape, possibly with relocation of foglights and a more pronounced guard running horizontal/parallel with the grille. The protruding hood/fenders that overhang the grille looks good as well, but it needs to be exaggerated more, notice it in comparison to the 1st gens (the forward sloping nose). Hopefully we can trust GM with a proper execution :)

I have close ties with a GM dealer here in the DFW area. This "Employee Pricing" is making a killing. People are paying more than had they come in and haggled the old price. He sold 350 Cadillacs, 260 Saabs, 290 GMC's and 490 Chevys LAST MONTH! GM's sales were up 41% last month. Their lot is Empty. People thought they went out of business, but it turns out business is TOO GOOD! I hope that helps the Money Problems, I want my 5th Generation now!

Ive heard some good things about sales as well. I have three good friends who all just purchased new GM cars within the last 2 weeks...new trailblazer, tahoe, and monte carlo

So where did you get that info? I saw that picture in a magazine about 2 years ago.

it seems pretty clear to me that no one actually has any information, only speculation, at this point. we've seen the same 5 or 6 pics for the last 2 years, and heard variances on the same information right along side them. If that information is correct, I don't think things will turn out as either we or GM hopes.

Brad

This is the same rumor mill crap we've been hearing for a while, and quiet frankly that "rendering" looks like a smoothed over SS concept that's been making the show circuit for what, 3~5 years now. Where's the "overrated" chant when you need it. It's dead, it's a non-issue, and ain't happening for right now. Maybe 2010, but not in 2007.

I hope GM serves cyanide fruit punch at their next general meeting. This "prototype", even if only speculation, is crap.

I hope GM serves cyanide fruit punch at their next general meeting. This "prototype", even if only speculation, is crap.

:werd: :(

I'll believe it when I see it, but I don't think so. I'll put money on it that an 07 camaro WILL NOT happen. But don't be sad. Theres still a plethora of 4th gen f-bods around, and with all these new crate engines and short blocks, I'm happy.

I saw that article in Road and Track too. I hope the make it or bring out some new muscle because GM must be deing in sales since the new mustang came out. Well thats my 2 cents.

I saw that article in Road and Track too. I hope the make it or bring out some new muscle because GM must be deing in sales since the new mustang came out. Well thats my 2 cents.



If it looks like that...I'll pass, as it really needs to look way more appealing. (That and I'm lining up an 01 Trans Am purchase, so you do the math).

"yea" all them people out on the vehicle clasified section on this forum asking them stupid prices for what they feel its a collector car, "yea" maybe 30 years from now.. if the story on the august eddition of road&track is correct "WATCH OUT" them cars will be just another generation of camaros."so guys sell them now and sell them quick" like i have said before and ill say it again, theres no way GM is going to let ford with there mustang and now dodge with there hemi powered magnums/chargers take the hole "PONY CAR" pie....

Damn I been seeing this type of topic way TOOOOOO much! If they were going to come out with it you would hear a lot more about it, just like the new Corvettes. If you hear more about a new corvette 1 1/2 b4 it comes out or a the new mustangs 1 1/2 b4 they come out...... the "new camaro" would make a even bigger scene, Just because they are gone! Point being is some of you guys are putting your hopes into a car that will NOT COME OUT.....REMEMBER LAST OF THE BREED.... Gm will focus their performance on the GTO or a new regal platform! Those are the muscle cars for today and the future! NUff SAID...

Thus, they are planning on developing a "Sigma-lite" platform based off of the caddy cts that would be a live rear axle version to underpin the camaro, impala, and monte carlo.

Since Chevy is coming out with an updated/facelifted version of the current FWD Impala/Monte Carlo in a few months as an 06, I seriously doubt they would replace it the following year with a "live rear axle version".

Check Chevy.com for info on the "new" Impala/Monte Carlo. SS's get the 303 hp Aluminun 5.3 with LS6 heads.

that camaro they drew up looks too much like the new mustang :barf:

GM said they were unsatisfied with the solstice launch since it spanned over 20months from concept to production so theyre looking to pace things much faster if they do a next gen camaro.

Well see
I'll say it will be faster! They'd have to be well into project development, test mules, etc. to get the car out by the end of '06. If they are just in the planning stages now, there is no possible way it could come out that soon. Not even DC turns out cars that fast.

I wish I could shoot myself for every time there was speculation posted about a new Camaro.

I wish I had a dollar for every one that I saw.... lol. http://www.racersden.net/forum/images/smilies/spunkslap.gif

The picture (and info) is from the latest issue of Road&Track.
The picture was originally seen in a magazine article from 2 years ago.
I don't recall the name or time of the original article though.

I wish I could shoot myself for every time there was speculation posted about a new Camaro.

What, you don't like hearing the same factless speculation week in and week out? :jest:

I feel like I'm back in high school hearing about how Sally might like Jimmy but last Monday I heard that she went out with Tommy but then I overheard someone else say that Jill liked Tommy but I'm not sure she may like Joe who might not like her back or of course I could be making all of this up but let's pretend i'm not!!

I wish I could shoot myself for every time there was speculation posted about a new Camaro.

i hear ya, i just laugh at what people would settle for in a 5th gen camaro....

out of all the "concepts" i have seen , i would rather see GM keep it dead :zzz:

I feel like I'm back in high school hearing about how Sally might like Jimmy but last Monday I heard that she went out with Tommy but then I overheard someone else say that Jill liked Tommy but I'm not sure she may like Joe who might not like her back or of course I could be making all of this up but let's pretend i'm not!!

:D I agree :cheers:. No hate intended to the original poster at all, it's just that the constant barrage of the same unknowns which are construed as facts all the time is ridiculous.

Brad

motor trend is saying all but the next gen gto rwd v8 products in the chute are dead, (exempting the solstice/sky and vette) they are saying 2008 for the gto and all of pontiacs other cars will be FWD. Zeta is still a go, but the sigma lite will be dead, although they didnt come right out and say it. im at the point where if they do great if they dont oh well we already lost all we can so what can we do.

:D I agree :cheers:. No hate intended to the original poster at all, it's just that the constant barrage of the same unknowns which are construed as facts all the time is ridiculous.

Brad


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motor trend is saying all but the next gen gto rwd v8 products in the chute are dead, (exempting the solstice/sky and vette) they are saying 2008 for the gto and all of pontiacs other cars will be FWD. Zeta is still a go, but the sigma lite will be dead, although they didnt come right out and say it. im at the point where if they do great if they dont oh well we already lost all we can so what can we do.

MT said that?
It's kinda backwards.
Zeta (aka VE) will still be used by Holden, but not in North America.
Sigma-Lite is being used in North America instead.

I work for an OEM and am privy to lots of good info. I know that GM's product plans (releases and refreshes) are set through 2008 at least. 2006 are 100% done obviously and they finished photography. If they are building a new Camaro in 2007/2008 somebody knows for sure. 2007's are basically 100% done (engine/trans/option bundles) "S Zeros" ithout vins are being assembled with potential for some delays based on logistics and last minute styling updates. 2008's are still being clinic'd but are largley complete (as far as planning) and 2009's are being engineered and developed as we speak. They are likely in clay at this point. The stuff is done that far out. Anyway point is somebody knows for sure !

I work for an OEM and am privy to lots of good info. I know that GM's product plans (releases and refreshes) are set through 2008 at least. 2006 are 100% done obviously and they finished photography. If they are building a new Camaro in 2007/2008 somebody knows for sure. 2007's are basically 100% done (engine/trans/option bundles) "S Zeros" ithout vins are being assembled with potential for some delays based on logistics and last minute styling updates. 2008's are still being clinic'd but are largley complete (as far as planning) and 2009's are being engineered and developed as we speak. They are likely in clay at this point. The stuff is done that far out. Anyway point is somebody knows for sure !

You dingleberry. :jest:

You're right to a degree, we just did a quote for 07 business. The OEMs have at least a prototype at this point.

If I had a dollar for every time I've divulged proprietary information, I'd be wealthy.
GMX 284 Chevy "Camaro" to be built in Ramos, NM 15,000 units in 2007 and 34,000 in 08 to be built on the same line as the Buick Velite (GMX286)
:chug:

If I had a dollar for every time I've divulged proprietary information, I'd be wealthy.
GMX 284 Chevy "Camaro" to be built in Ramos, NM 15,000 units in 2007 and 34,000 in 08 to be built on the same line as the Buick Velite (GMX286)
:chug:

God I hope you're not being sarcastic.

Sorry to seem like a redundant poster, im just the fax man. The article is indeed new as stated, its in R&T this month. I figured i would post up the pics and what little info they did indeed have for those unfamiliar to it to see. Of course it is all speculation, but dont just take it with a grain of salt. If the public continues to stir interest, combined with growing mustang sales, GM will not only take notice but take action. They need sales and product awareness, as well as an icon. Corvette can only satisfy so much.

Theres an empty product line currently and they will obviously persue an oppertunity to fill it. Whether that be a new camaro or some sort of bigger cobalt SS something or another. I say keep a better attitude, you never know whats in our future. Meanwhile the LS7 can find a home in our LS1 engine bays.

JAvenger007 its not redundancy, its just information you're sharing w/ the rest of us. Some of us (like me) dont really pay much attention to articles like that in R&T, C&D, MT so its information none-the-less that some people might not know (yet).

In other posts on the forum you'll find there's an answer in the works from GM. (See the "Ramblings of Scott Settlemire" in the Racers Lounge). Im sure GM has noticed not only the Mustang sales, but also the 300C and Magnum sales aswell. And Im sure they've taken notice on how the Titan and Tundra have came into the truck market aswell, and are going to re-define the Silverado's edge and heritage along w/ their other vehicle(s).

As for them needing an "icon" I dont know what better icon to have than the Corvette. 50+ years of American performance, and the package just keeps getting better each time. Not only the fact that its raced against Shelby Cobras, Ferrari, Lambo, Saleen, Viper etc....BUT ITS BEATEN THEM ALL! Its ruled the GTS of ALMS, and has won Daytona (1 and 2 overall) and LeMans (while not a 1, 2 overall they have placed 1st in class 4 of the last 5 years, IIRC). That says a lot for what Team Vette has done not only for the street cars, but for the entire Vette community. Thats a big thing to hang your hat on and say you're "Champions" after going up against some of those competitors. Thats JMO on why the vette is an icon.

I can see why you say it can only satisfy so much, but IMO it more than satisfies for what it is. Im not knocking your opinion, b/c we're all entitled to our own opinions but being a Corvette nut, I just see it differently :P. I agree that we have no idea whats in our future, so it does pay to have an open mind. But I think most Fbody owners and enthusiests felt more like they were being looked over by GM, instead of embraced like we see DC and FoMoCo doing.

I totally agree as well, the vette has more than fulfilled its role. The problem is there's a different market for the camaro and its a niche that needs to be filled, something for the more youthful. Outside of the cobalt there's nothing much for the young GM faithful to turn to. I would love a more refined rear drive v8 muscle variant for $25K or less. The mustang is within a class of its own. The gto has somewhat filled that void, but its still not what the young 18 to 20-something is looking for, for the most part. I personally love the GTO and will likely buy one within the next 3 years. Maybe the next gen GTO can create just what we would expect out of a 5th gen fbody. Either way ill still be saving towards my own C6 so I'm pretty satisfied already.

You dingleberry. :jest:

You're right to a degree, we just did a quote for 07 business. The OEMs have at least a prototype at this point.

If I had a dollar for every time I've divulged proprietary information, I'd be wealthy.
GMX 284 Chevy "Camaro" to be built in Ramos, NM 15,000 units in 2007 and 34,000 in 08 to be built on the same line as the Buick Velite (GMX286)
:chug:



Didn't I just post that the Camaro would be here for 2007...


Sheeesh





BTW thanks for the 'divulge' :secret2:

I totally agree as well, the vette has more than fulfilled its role. The problem is there's a different market for the camaro and its a niche that needs to be filled, something for the more youthful. Outside of the cobalt there's nothing much for the young GM faithful to turn to. I would love a more refined rear drive v8 muscle variant for $25K or less. The mustang is within a class of its own. The gto has somewhat filled that void, but its still not what the young 18 to 20-something is looking for, for the most part. I personally love the GTO and will likely buy one within the next 3 years. Maybe the next gen GTO can create just what we would expect out of a 5th gen fbody. Either way ill still be saving towards my own C6 so I'm pretty satisfied already.

Now we're speakin the same language :D. Im in that niche market of young buyers, and I feel basically the same way you do.

FWIW General Motors has renewed the Trademark "Camaro".


Could be some more tell tale signs...

Just recieved info and some renderings of camaro redesign. Sounds like 2006 is possible unvieling and 2007 is the actual release, making it the 40th anniversary.

Heres what I got out of the R&T article:
GM is required to build the car in canada, possibly at the Oshawa assembly plant. Problem is only Front drive cars are being produced there. Thus, they are planning on developing a "Sigma-lite" platform based off of the caddy cts that would be a live rear axle version to underpin the camaro, impala, and monte carlo. They might just create a cost alternative to the Zeta platform though. Benefits to the monte carlo and impala being rear-drive would be that chevy could have a credible rear-drive sedan for police market and monte carlo could finally return to its reardrive heritage and become closer to its nascar version.

Engine choices so far are:
-3.9 ohv from chevy/pontiac-G6 for ex which would have ~240hp
-high feature 3.6 ohc (from cadillac/buick) ~240hp
-5.3L with roughly 300hp
-and of course 400hp LS2 for a possible SS model

GM said they were unsatisfied with the solstice launch since it spanned over 20months from concept to production so theyre looking to pace things much faster if they do a next gen camaro.

Well see

Why would they make the 5th gen Z28 slower then the 4th gen Z28? LS1 350hp > 5.3L 300hp

I'd love to see how divided the V8 world can get.
SS owner#2352 "why mod it, get a real engine"
SS ownder#5422 "so some Z28 tried to race me the other day pfft"

Its important that Chevrolet stay on top their game on this one. OUT RUN THOSE COBRAS WITH OUR BASE MODEL.

Didn't I just post that the Camaro would be here for 2007...


Sheeesh





BTW thanks for the 'divulge' :secret2:

You have my deepest apolgies for the redundancy. I didn't see your post, I was simply replying to Mirek because he's a friend. If you can find it in your heart to forgive me, I'll never double post your information again. :gay:

Where was that posted? In this thread or a different one? My apologies if this thread is a duplicate. I literally logged on and posted the info within 10 min of recieving my R&T addition so i figured the info was fresh.

What is this info and where is it from, sorry if thats already been asked:
"GMX 284 Chevy "Camaro" to be built in Ramos, NM 15,000 units in 2007 and 34,000 in 08 to be built on the same line as the Buick Velite (GMX286)"

This has become quite confusing because half the posters in here reply with the "ill believe it when i see it or the its not gonna happen, theyve already said so" and the other half of you seem to be saying "sheesh the numbers are already out its coming 07"

First..........we do not invite Motor Trend or Road and Track or any other magazine into our product planning meetings.

So........take what you read in magazines with a grain of salt.....and then throw that grain of salt over your shoulder.

Now.....I gotta be careful here, and I can't say a lot.......but:

We KNOW Mustang continues to sell in sizeable numbers.....and we knew this several years ago.

There are reasons why the Camaro went on "hiatus" ...that word came directly from the press release when we announced the closing of Ste. Therese.

The Camaro nameplate is one of the top 5 most recognized nameplates in the industry......HUGE equity in the name.

NO CAMARO should ever have FWD. The very DNA of Camaro sez:

>Head turning style that's recognizable as a Camaro from a quarter mile......
>Class leading performance from available muscular V8s
>RWD
>Handling that makes the car stick to the road like velcro
>Chevy price

Now.......there's been tons of 'pictures' of the "new Camaro" and none of them are right.

I've said "keep the faith' at least a gajillion times..............

so let me say this: You should really consider coming to NAIAS in January of 2006 to look around...............

Now..........if that doesn't answer your question.....nothing will..............

Scott, I really hope they are building a Camaro and a Camaro that is worthy of the nameplate. If so , I'll be one of the first in line to buy one. I guess we get frustrated at the whole "maybe we will ,maybe we won't" thing. I realize you can't confirm nor deny it but can you at least understand our frustration? The Mustang sales show the ponycar platform is alive and well and retro is quite popular ,too. Mr. Lutz missed the whole side of the barn with the comment he made about retro. I'll keep the faith but just don't let me down when you say I should.

Scott, I love you.

Err....WE. I meant we!!!

I'll be at NAIAS. Will there be any official GM announcements before then or will this be a total surprise at the show?

wow, maybe we finally have some decent info to go off here. i just hope they get it right, keeping fingers crossed.

First..........we do not invite Motor Trend or Road and Track or any other magazine into our product planning meetings.

So........take what you read in magazines with a grain of salt.....and then throw that grain of salt over your shoulder.

Now.....I gotta be careful here, and I can't say a lot.......but:

We KNOW Mustang continues to sell in sizeable numbers.....and we knew this several years ago.

There are reasons why the Camaro went on "hiatus" ...that word came directly from the press release when we announced the closing of Ste. Therese.

The Camaro nameplate is one of the top 5 most recognized nameplates in the industry......HUGE equity in the name.

NO CAMARO should ever have FWD. The very DNA of Camaro sez:

>Head turning style that's recognizable as a Camaro from a quarter mile......
>Class leading performance from available muscular V8s
>RWD
>Handling that makes the car stick to the road like velcro
>Chevy price

Now.......there's been tons of 'pictures' of the "new Camaro" and none of them are right.

I've said "keep the faith' at least a gajillion times..............

so let me say this: You should really consider coming to NAIAS in January of 2006 to look around...............

Now..........if that doesn't answer your question.....nothing will..............



Thanks for coming here again and giving us furthered hope.


:cheers:




You have my deepest apolgies for the redundancy. I didn't see your post, I was simply replying to Mirek because he's a friend. If you can find it in your heart to forgive me, I'll never double post your information again. :gay:

AND

Where was that posted? In this thread or a different one? My apologies if this thread is a duplicate. I literally logged on and posted the info within 10 min of recieving my R&T addition so i figured the info was fresh.

What is this info and where is it from, sorry if thats already been asked:
"GMX 284 Chevy "Camaro" to be built in Ramos, NM 15,000 units in 2007 and 34,000 in 08 to be built on the same line as the Buick Velite (GMX286)"

This has become quite confusing because half the posters in here reply with the "ill believe it when i see it or the its not gonna happen, theyve already said so" and the other half of you seem to be saying "sheesh the numbers are already out its coming 07"


Sorry guys... I simply meant that I stated the Camaro would be back for 2007 and at the 2006 NAIAS.

Did not mean to cause any confusion. :emb:

Scott!! Thanks for the words! I've loved all five of the 4th-gen F-cars I've owned, I can't wait for my 1st 5th gen!!!! :eek2:

There is all this talk of the Camaro coming back out. But will there also be a Trans Am again, or is the fire chicken truly dead? Doe anyone know whats going on with that.

Well the GTO is rumored to end in the next few years...maybe we'll see a 40th TA? :)

It would be great if they came back out with it. Not many cars look as bad ass as the Trans Am WS6's did. On the other hand though i really like knowing that there isnt a better model made and that there might never be a better model made. If they bring it back out, i am sure i wont get one. They will probably only put the LS2 in it. In which case I am more than happy to have my LS1. By then my T/A will be making considerably more power than the stock LS2 and hopefully LS7 anyways. But we'll just have tyo wait and see.

First..........we do not invite Motor Trend or Road and Track or any other magazine into our product planning meetings.

So........take what you read in magazines with a grain of salt.....and then throw that grain of salt over your shoulder.

Now.....I gotta be careful here, and I can't say a lot.......but:

We KNOW Mustang continues to sell in sizeable numbers.....and we knew this several years ago.

There are reasons why the Camaro went on "hiatus" ...that word came directly from the press release when we announced the closing of Ste. Therese.

The Camaro nameplate is one of the top 5 most recognized nameplates in the industry......HUGE equity in the name.

NO CAMARO should ever have FWD. The very DNA of Camaro sez:

>Head turning style that's recognizable as a Camaro from a quarter mile......
>Class leading performance from available muscular V8s
>RWD
>Handling that makes the car stick to the road like velcro
>Chevy price

Now.......there's been tons of 'pictures' of the "new Camaro" and none of them are right.

I've said "keep the faith' at least a gajillion times..............

so let me say this: You should really consider coming to NAIAS in January of 2006 to look around...............

Now..........if that doesn't answer your question.....nothing will..............
i hear ya lound and clear got ur point and all questions have been answered i guess i'll go ahead and start a savings acount for a downpayment alright sweet!!!!!! we getting a new maro we geting a new maro lol!! :jest:

so let me say this: You should really consider coming to NAIAS in January of 2006 to look around...............

Now..........if that doesn't answer your question.....nothing will..............
Now lets say i make it to the NAIAS how long till Dodge, Ford and Chevy(hint hint, its in bold for a reason) make their concepts into production. you know just curious.

Scott, I love you.

Err....WE. I meant we!!!


****blushing*****giggling*****

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more blushing to you from me too!!! Will be there in January!!! Thanks for checking in, it means a lot to all of us. You da man!! :cheers: :)

Brad

Its important that Chevrolet stay on top their game on this one. OUT RUN THOSE COBRAS WITH OUR BASE MODEL.

I like the way this man thinks.

Scott, you've just made my summer.

Now lets say i make it to the NAIAS how long till Dodge, Ford and Chevy(hint hint, its in bold for a reason) make their concepts into production. you know just curious.

It depends on the car company and how fast their production cycle is. The Solstice was shown in full production form this year at the auto show, and it was SUPPOSED to be in dealers in June. It hasn't happened yet and GM is pissed it's taking so long. They're trying to speed up the development cycle on the future products even more.

They better come back with a 5th Gen Camaro... if not what the hell am I supposed to buy when I get out of College? I plan on ordering me a brand new SS, and I want 400+ HP. The more the better, makes a 385HP Z and a 425HP SS :). If they do comeback with them and mess it up I will probably drive my car off a cliff. The beater Mustangs are selling like crazy and the void definitley needs to be replaced by a Camaro.

I'm sorry, but those renderings are gay as phuck! :eyes:

How is GM going to shorten the time it takes to get the Maro on the streets, as opposed to the Solice's gestation period?

???????????????????????????

I'm sorry, but those renderings are gay as phuck! :eyes:


Yeah I'm going to have to agree with JACK!! :D

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Hey guys just read an article that may shed some light on the subject. According to this the plant in Canada (Ste.Therese) is being demolished, but it may be the reason the Camaro will come back. Here's the article:

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0409phr_camaro/

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joe@s3fx.com

That's a pretty old article. The plants been gone for at least a year. Probably more. That was an encouraging article at the time. Supposedly GM has something big coming out at the NAIAS this year. I hope it's true.

here we go again
*hits head on desk*

here we go again
*hits head on desk*

Hey, relax man. There's a lot of uninformed people out there. We should educate them rather than flame them IMHO. :) I can't even count the people I've met that didn't know that GM stopped producing F-Bodies.

Hey, relax man. There's a lot of uninformed people out there. We should educate them rather than flame them IMHO. :) I can't even count the people I've met that didn't know that GM stopped producing F-Bodies.
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