Automotive News, Media & Press - Chevrolet = Rice

In US the name Chevrolet stands for power and quality right?
But here in Sweden it´s an ugly little ricecan :)

(yes i know that most of you know this... just informing the rest)


http://www.chevrolet.se/images/global/models/lacetti/photo_gallery/image_4_05.jpg

http://www.chevrolet.se/images/global/home/5050_main_img_right/main_matiz_55_10_ri.jpg

http://www.chevrolet.se/index.html

No different than an Aveo or "Chevy" Metro.

It's all sales to GM. They need all the sales they can get. :)

PS: I wouldn't call those rice.

yeah, those are just economy cars.

The second picture could fall into the rice catagory. But i think the first car can sell well in the states if introduced in the states.

The second picture could fall into the rice catagory.

I honestly dont see why...its just an ugly color. The Matiz is one of the most popular economy cars in europe. Its just pretty much an Aveo. It doesnt have 'rims', a fart can, decals, or anything else 'ubertackey'...

STFU thoes cars are so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!





















j/k

In US the name Chevrolet stands for power and quality right?


Unfortunately for the time being, it does not.

I hope they make an SS version of this one too...

i want one so bad!!!! with stickers and a 12 in fart can.

i think chevy needs more cars like that. they sell cheap and thats what they need right now. SALES! if they dont render the sales and catch up with the faster paced market, we will all being driving chinese and jap built cars before you know it.

i think chevy needs more cars like that. they sell cheap and thats what they need right now. SALES! if they dont render the sales and catch up with the faster paced market, we will all being driving chinese and jap built cars before you know it. i say build more.

, we will all being driving chinese and jap built cars before you know it. i say build more.

You do know that these cars are built in korea... with GM bagdes :usa:

i think chevy needs more cars like that. they sell cheap and thats what they need right now. SALES! if they dont render the sales and catch up with the faster paced market, we will all being driving chinese and jap built cars before you know it. i say build more.

I have no problem with the idea of saving American jobs, but saving poorly run businesses just because they have US origins is a different story. US jobs will be saved by building cars in the US--no matter who owns the company.

Is a Cobalt SS Supercharged rice?

http://www.theraceforum.com/index.cfm?form_topic_id=3100&form_cat_id=5

BTW... Its actually a Deawoo

Unfortunately for the time being, it does not.

I will disagree sorry, GM is making some of the best cars for quality and fit n finish in the industry. Example new chevrolets have panel gaps of less than 1mm

Today ford announced plant closing; this is the American public for you. Granted all those Americans will lose jobs because of ford but what about goodyear,delphi,all the upholstery, steel related jobs etc. that support ford motor cars. Most American made cars are more than 75% American, so Toyota "assembles" some cars in the US big fucking deal, giving some dealers and some plant workers jobs not the American investor or the American Engineer. Buy American because you support America

Buy American because you support America
Or buy a well made car because its well made.

Or buy a well made car because its well made.
Buy a well made american car -- not the car some "paid-off" magazine tells you to buy.

I will disagree sorry, GM is making some of the best cars for quality and fit n finish in the industry. Example new chevrolets have panel gaps of less than 1mm

Today ford announced plant closing; this is the American public for you. Granted all those Americans will lose jobs because of ford but what about goodyear,delphi,all the upholstery, steel related jobs etc. that support ford motor cars. Most American made cars are more than 75% American, so Toyota "assembles" some cars in the US big fucking deal, giving some dealers and some plant workers jobs not the American investor or the American Engineer. Buy American because you support America

What a stupid statement. Quit defending half assed products and shitty marketing. If GM were building quality rides in the first place, you wouldn't have to defend them with such stupidly biased statements in the first place. Buy American because you support America? WTF? Weren't F-Bodies built in Canada and LS1s assembled in Mexico? OOOOOO, 1MM PANEL GAPS OMFG THEY MUST OF GREAT QUALITY BECAUSE OF 1MM PANEL GAPS WEWT WEWT. Oh please.

Not only that but the guy was talking specifically about the Chevrolet nameplate, not GM in general. PAY ATTENTION PLEASE. What Chevrolet in America is noticed exclusively for it's power AND quality? Huh, HUH??? The C6 Corvette comes to mind and then uhh... that's about it.

Civic > Cobalt
Camry/Accord/Altima/6 > Malibu
300/Charger > Impala
Monte Carlo = who gives a shit
HHR = nice ride albeit a PT rip off 5 years too late
SSR = WTF were they thinking Ray Charles could have seen that it wouldn't have sold.

The only vehicles I can think of in Chevy's lineup aside from the Corvette that are gleaming with power and quality are their current full size and up and coming GMT900 full size trucks and SUVs. Sorry but there's nothing powerful about a 220hp 5 Cylinder (again WTF were they thinking) Colorado and having driven one (the 3.5L 5 banger model), a VQ40DE Frontier and a 4 banger Tacoma, I can tell you that quality wise both of the Japanese trucks are better built. Power isn't even worth discussing here. If the Tacoma I drove were equipped with a V6, it'd hand the Colorado it's ass. And the Colorado never stood a chance against the Frontiers VQ. The Japanese can't touch full size pickups in terms of power and quality, but when it comes to compact and midsize pickups well, the Japanese invented that segment so it would seem that they'd be best at building vehicles to fill it... and they are.

Face it, in terms of BOTH quality and power, all Chevy has are it's trucks and the Corvette. Who wants a 303hp V8 powered FRONT WHEEL DRIVE Impala when you could have a RWD Charger R/T with 340hp, and an extra gear?

Buy American because you support America? This is the kind of dumb shit thinking that GM is relying on to sell cars right now. What moron in his or her right mind would buy a Malibu over an Accord simply to "support America" when he or she could have a superior Honda that offers more power, better fuel economy, halfway decent looks, and already tried, tested and proven quality? Don't get me wrong. I want GM to get it right, but the fact of the matter is that they continue to cut corners and try to pass their products off as being the cheaper alternative for less dollar when what they need to do is build a superior product in the first place. Buying American simply because the badge on the hood is of an American company is nothing more than being a stupid blind brand loyalist which GM has relied on for far too long.

What they should do is make Rick Wagoner drive his ass to work in a different GM product every week. Maybe if that dumbass had to endure the Malibus ugly looking piece of shit dash for a few days he'd realize why everyone slams it and refers to it as a piece. And maybe if he had to drive a FWD V8 powered Monte Carlo in front of an American car enthusiast gathering from time to time he'd realize why no one wants to be seen in such an embarassment to American car design.

People don't buy Japanese daily drivers to support Japanese economy. They do it because the Japanese build BETTER QUALITY CARS.

Chevrolet is rice because they build a subcompact car? You are an idiot.

rice is normally "home made" ;)

What Japanese car makes produces a higher-quality supercar than the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo.

Heck, what Japanese supercar (skyline, nsx, supra aren't supercars) has won nearly fourty races around the world as had the Saleen S7R?

Saleen S7 and S7R (http://www.theraceforum.com/index.cfm?form_topic_id=3037&form_cat_id=2)

http://www.fast-autos.net/events/04almsls/gts/acemco/16.jpg

http://motorsport.com/photos/alms/2004/ls/alms-2004-ls-kd-1219.jpg

http://www.motorsportvisions.com/lsalms04/images/IMG_6622.jpg

My brother and dad drive BMWs, but they were very impressed with the new Chevy Tahoe shown at the 2006 L.A. auto show.

What Japanese car makes produces a higher-quality supercar than the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo.

Heck, what Japanese supercar (skyline, nsx, supra aren't supercars) has won nearly fourty races around the world as had the Saleen S7R?

My brother and dad drive BMWs, but they were very impressed with the new Chevy Tahoe shown at the 2006 L.A. auto show.

Oh please. You're comparing a $400,000 hand assembled supercar built by a tuner turned limited production manufacturer to bread and butter assembly line sedans build by huge Japanese automakers? What kind of stupid ass one sided comparison is that? Show me a GM supercar that is of higher quality than an S7 TT. And before you say Z06 think again. A Z06 does not compare to an S7 in terms of quality or craftsmanship and it shouldn't. You could own 5 or 6 Z06s for the price of an S7 TT.

And as for your brother and dad driving BMWs but being impressed with the Tahoe, big f**king deal. If American cars are oh so great, why are they driving BMWs instead of Cadillacs.

^because they have money and beleive in a "status symbol" car. I will buy nothing but American made cars. I support the hard working people here. have had: buick regal, monte carlo(86'), beretta, s-10, gmc sonoma, camaro, jeep......I do not care to support other contries, it's bad enough that almost all of our electronics come from over seas. It is a matter of choice, have you ever been to japan?? well, let me tell you, big shot japanese men drive cadillacs and they also love big suv's like the tahoe and suburban.....also the hummer h2 is very popular. And when someone over there actually is seen w/ a mustang or camaro, it draws ALOT of attention and questions from onlookers.

Making the statement that the Japanese build "better" cars is crap or I’ve never done a thing to it; both are somebody else’s word that you or whoever else believes. To many people walk around making those same idiotic statements you do about quality, buy comparable cars today and tell me which has more problems. I see just as many problems with Japanese cars as I do American they all have their faults. By stating I’ve never done anything to is claiming that the Imports don’t have parts departments because nothing ever breaks, and the service department only changes oil or better yet they don’t’ change oil either right? Why not complain about the crap imports of the 60's? You’re ignorant to your ways and you changing your mind is a hopeless cause.

Also numbers of people buy front drive cars over rear drive, shit you can't go anywhere in the winter with rear drive but you wouldn’t understand that your just looking at the positive aspect of rear drive not the negative. So many people went and bought rear drive cars and now with winter dead on remember why they hated them so much 10 years ago. I’m not going to argue front drive is the way but you do need both and there tends to be reason behind it. The one thing I will agree with you on is the dam Colorado but I’ll associate it fault with its head designer Isuzu who worked under the watch of GM. That can clearly be seen by the interior layout, it looks like the average Asian import truck and today the diehard American truck buyers hate the truck; there isn’t a thing about it that yells American. You pick on the HHR but that truck does not stay on the lots, its one of the hottest vehicles we can get at the dealer, can't build them fast enough (yes it will taper off eventually). Cars like that make money, the bread and butter, something many don't realize. The SSR was a great concept and a great truck, but the price sucked there were so many SSR only parts that cost way too much to build (example side marker lights with small chevy bowties in them, not needed). They should have built that truck much like they did the solstice and used parts from all over (example back up lights from and Envoy).

From my standpoint I buy American because of who it supports, especially when the product today is comparable or better. Of the 29 import related plants (compared to the previous 82 gm has)all are non-unionized and have young (below 30) age people working for them. So instead of working at say a walmart making 8 bucks an hour they can work at a car plant building Toyotas making 15 and hour (just an example). All American made cars built in the US are built by union people. Benefits and retirement something the young Toyota workers don't get, but something that is killing the big 3, but hey you don't care right? Its not like they can just kill off all the unions either, heard of contracts, now with Ford, GM and Chrysler (6000 jobs) what are all of these Americans going to do? What about the steel they use? Last I remember Toyota was importing most of their steel and I know for sure when they built the Camery plant they used imported steel. Lastly the big 3 pay three times as many taxes as Toyota does to the US treasury, something to think about next time they raise the retirement age because the Treasury can't keep up.

I am brand loyal for a reason, but i'm not going to say that Toyota and such don't make good cars/trucks they do. But dollar for dollar GM supports more Americans than do the imports.

The one thing I will agree with you on is the dam Colorado but I’ll associate it fault with its head designer Isuzu who worked under the watch of GM. That can clearly be seen by the interior layout, it looks like the average Asian import truckWow, that makes alot of sense.

When my brother bought his 05 Colorado CC Z71, I really liked the looks of that truck.

Untill I got to the interior :barf: .

The 03 S10 I had was WAY better designed, interior wise.

Buy a well made american car -- not the car some "paid-off" magazine tells you to buy.

Why do you want to buy american so bad?

bruddah_man_matt, I agree with everything you said, except this:

People don't buy Japanese daily drivers to support Japanese economy. They do it because the Japanese build BETTER QUALITY CARS.

The Japanese do. They buy their own domestic products in Japan at a higher price so that the Japanese companies can export their goods elsewhere cheaper and still make a profit. That's how Japanese electronics were able to flood American shores a couple decades back: the Japanese companies colluded to compete together only against American companies, and not amongst themselves. The Japanese government had a strong hand in gaining the cooperation of all of the Japanese companies; business is just done differently there. In general, the Japanese are strong nationalists, just like Americans, if not more so.

That said, buy a product not because it's American-made, buy it because it's a superior product for the same dollar. I'm patriotic, but I'm not gonna buy that new Camaro if I can get something better for the same price from Germany or Japan (which I doubt).

Every one realy needs to do some research on the defects per 100 cars the manufacturers are getting....if you think Japan is making "quality" cars then you have a lot to learn.

Why do you want to buy american so bad?
I work for a Chevrolet dealer. My career is dependant on people buying american. ;)

I work for a Chevrolet. My career is dependant on people buying american. ;)
Well that being the case why doesnt the government just tell us we arent allowed to buy products from overseas? Forget it noone really needs Gasoline. Face it man its 2006 and were in an international economy. Its not about Americans buying from Americans, there are aproximatley 5.8 billion other people on this planet and many more other countries. Get over you America fetish.

Well that being the case why doesnt the government just tell us we arent allowed to buy products from overseas? Forget it noone really needs Gasoline. Face it man its 2006 and were in an international economy. Its not about Americans buying from Americans, there are aproximatley 5.8 billion other people on this planet and many more other countries. Get over you America fetish.
Well, I don't quite know what to say to that.

Over the last 8 years I've owned ~15 Chevrolet vehicles(ok 1 was a GMC). I've enjoyed everyone. That's the *deep down honest* reason I buy Chevrolet vehicles.

May I ask what vehicle you drive and in what industry you are employed?

First...the first post is kind of stupid, more coming from a guy who lives in a place that brought VOLVOS to the car world...

Second...buying american if you are american? Start building some GOOD cars and then I will consider it (and please stop slapping that SS badge in every POS is made, is pathetic)...in the mean time I will keep my TA and my old cars...and wait for this new Camaro if it becomes a reality!

Third...judging quality by 1mm gaps?? are you serious...too bad that 1mm at times is found inside piston cylinders!!

and fourth.....ALL car companies have made crap automobiles, ALL....not entirely fair to say is only GM

Well, I don't quite know what to say to that.

Over the last 8 years I've owned ~15 Chevrolet vehicles(ok 1 was a GMC). I've enjoyed everyone. That's the *deep down honest* reason I buy Chevrolet vehicles.

May I ask what vehicle you drive and in what industry you are employed?

Im 19, ive had three vehicles all GM. But they werent new, they were used, '90 deville sedan, '91 jimmy, and now a '95 Sierra. Both jobs ive had were in the credit card industry. Let me also say i used to be a die hard chevrolet fan, there was no better car than the vette(still isn't), and i was absolutley in LOVE w/ the camaro. Although, as ive read on here over the past 2 years, i shouldnt be willing to go out of my way to help Gm because they havent gone out of their way to do anything for me.

I understand you don't want to loose your job and i dont want you to loose it either, however IMO you should be taking up your battle with your managment. It's their job to make product people want to buy ensuring yours and everyone elses job.

Also, people buying strictly american will stifle innovation and competition not only in selling cars but it would trickle down to the aftermarket as well. The more competition there is the more new cool stuff we get because they know they have to try to compete and be innovative.

I understand you don't want to loose your job and i dont want you to loose it either, however IMO you should be taking up your battle with your managment. It's their job to make product people want to buy ensuring yours and everyone elses job.

Also, people buying strictly american will stifle innovation and competition not only in selling cars but it would trickle down to the aftermarket as well. The more competition there is the more new cool stuff we get because they know they have to try to compete and be innovative.
All valid points. :)

All valid points. :)
thank you

I work for a Chevrolet. My career is dependant on people buying american. ;)

Your career is dependent upon Chevy making cars that people want at a price they feel is reasonable...

As for me, they don't currently have anything that fits that. The Z06 is a steal for the money, but well out of my price range. I have 3 F-Bodies, a Dodge Van, and an Eclipse (the only one made in the US was the Eclipse, made in Illinois).

first of all, ditto to pretty much everything BanditTA said.
now..

My family owns
99 regal Ls
03 burb
06 cummins 4x4
my camaro
03 chevy 5500 dump truck
05 scion Xb

the only one that's had issues (other than the burb having a rattling exhaust shield)
is the piece of shit japanese car. I'm on my third transmission in 6 months, the piece of shit keeps throwing codes on a regular basis for little evap canisters all over, the interior falls apart, and paint quality is worst i've ever seen. I know its a cheap car, but others i know with higher end jap products have had issues too. It just pisses me off when i hear "oh toyotas, hondas are dead reliable, no problems ever, domestic cars are just crap" bullshit. I pledge to never buy a jap car. God forbid china gets their paws in our auto industry.. shudder. :barf:

:usa:
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well i got to say that im with bruddah_man_matt all the way

but i just got to say this is the most contriversal and halerious thead i have ever read in my life. i just thought i would through in my 2 cents