Dynamometer Results & Comparisons - who here has a 500 rhp

hey guys just wondering how many people in the board with 500hp or more with only all motor no nitrous, i just want to find out what kind of mods it took to reach it thanks

dat be me :) 513 rwhp all motor (LS2 though)

Mostly gonna be guys with more cubes.

anyone here with an ls1 with 500 rwhp???

anyone here with an ls1 with 500 rwhp???

Maybe 1 or 2 that had a lucky dyno pull.A repeatable 500hp car ussually runs more CI :)

As slowhawk said, there are very few ls1 shortblocks with 500rwhp n/a.
Maybe a handful with huge h/c setups.

500rwhp is usually from more cubic inches and or a poweradder.

ok cool thanks for all the info guys

My 408 HC (Ported 806, TREX, 6 speed) had to be pretty close, im well past 500 now though, no nitrous :P

way over 500, but with bigger cubes

As slowhawk said, there are very few ls1 shortblocks with 500rwhp n/a.
Maybe a handful with huge h/c setups.

500rwhp is usually from more cubic inches and or a poweradder.

Huge cam setup and good heads. I am ONLY making 473 rwhp and 431 rwtq, but keep in mind I am using the 78mm Fast and a 78mm ported TB with the G5X3 cam. Had I went with the G5X4 with more lift and a little more duration, and the 90 mm FAST and 90 mm TB LG claims I would've seen 503-508 rwhp with 450 rwtq . Probably would've required porting both the intake and the TB though. It just got to be too expensive, and also at what cost to the longevity of this stock bottom end motor? I will be upgrading down the road to the 90/90 combo when its time to replace my valve springs. Will post the new numbers for comparison. Read my sig for what it takes to get to 470 +. More cam and more flow would've got me to the 500 rwhp you are asking about. Hope my sig helps you out. GOOD LUCK

507.9 RWHP here. on 346CID

STOCK LS1 BOTTOM END :D

Just a set of ported LS6 heads, a cam, and the usual bolt ons.

http://avoronoff.hypermart.net/4X_Dyno_04_13_06.jpg

it looks like you have decent bottom end torque also with that 508 hp.

anyone here with an ls1 with 500 rwhp???

I do. But I cheated with a Procharger.

it looks like you have decent bottom end torque also with that 508 hp.


I do. I was very surprised how much low end power the car makes. Very streetable. I love driving it to the shore with the tops off. :)

Urban Legend,

I hate your profile pic... I am a Tifosi...

:jest:

Urban Legend,

I hate your profile pic... I am a Tifosi...

:jest:

Ferrari is F1. No love for Renault, I just found this pic.

I do .. see sig for specs :cheers:

cmon... a LS2 is not that much bigger than a LS1.....


I made 513 with my setup....

So swap my setup over to a LS1 add an electric water pump and you should have damn close to 500 rwhp....

408 ci all motor here 538rwhp/500rwtq through a 4L60E, big stall and a 12 bolt.

Ran 10.39 in the 1/4 in +2000 DA and at over 3500#s

408 ci all motor here 538rwhp/500rwtq through a 4L60E, big stall and a 12 bolt.

Ran 10.39 in the 1/4 in +2000 DA and at over 3500#s

you must have sticky tires!

Yes I do :)

Does having a Tornado count?? :secret2:

402 LS2
AFR 225's
249/255 Cam
KOOKS 1 7/8 Headera

542 RWHP

hey guys just wondering how many people in the board with 500hp or more with only all motor no nitrous, i just want to find out what kind of mods it took to reach it thanks

I've done many all motor 500+ RWHP deals. One was a 347 but most are 408s or bigger and all have very good heads and mid sized to larger cams. All these engines were on pump gas and were hydraulic roller also. They usually all have the better FAST intake manifolds and larger headers as well.

With higher compression and race gas 500+ rwhp is not hard whatsoever. Our SAM LS6 headed Darton engine made over 700 RWHP on race gas with a solid roller all motor. 600+ RWHP is easy with a big engine and a sheet metal with a solid roller and some compression. The intake manifold starts limiting you at this range usually.

507.9 RWHP here. on 346CID

STOCK LS1 BOTTOM END :D

Just a set of ported LS6 heads, a cam, and the usual bolt ons.

http://avoronoff.hypermart.net/4X_Dyno_04_13_06.jpg
Is that at the motor or at the rear tires? Guess that should be the ? for most of the guys here. What does it cost to go from a stock motor to that?

Is that at the motor or at the rear tires? Guess that should be the ? for most of the guys here. What does it cost to go from a stock motor to that?


That would be at the rear tires through 4.56 gears. On a Dynojet Chasis Dyno.

What does it take? The right parts, designed/installed/tuned by the right shop I guess.

here is a list of all the mods that would atribute to power gains;

Once agian, on a stock 2001 LS1 shortblock with ARP RodBolts.

CARTEK Stage4X LS6 heads [Ported/Polished 2.02" Intake 1.57" Exhaust Milled .030" Comp 921 Springs]
CARTEK 4X Cam [ground by Comp] for specs ask Dave @ CARTEK
Fast LSX 90mm Intake and TB
AC Delco 85mm MAF
Comp-R LS1 Hydrolic Roller Lifters
Stock Rockers
Chromoly pushrods
TSP 85mm Lid & K&N
QTP 1-3/4" headers
TSP True Duals
Ford SVO 30# injectors
Kenny Belle Boost-A-Pump
Mizier Street EWP
ASP Underdrive Pully
Double Timing Chain

Tuned by Julio Hormila @ CARTEK

I've done many all motor 500+ RWHP deals. One was a 347 but most are 408s or bigger and all have very good heads and mid sized to larger cams. All these engines were on pump gas and were hydraulic roller also. They usually all have the better FAST intake manifolds and larger headers as well.

With higher compression and race gas 500+ rwhp is not hard whatsoever. Our SAM LS6 headed Darton engine made over 700 RWHP on race gas with a solid roller all motor. 600+ RWHP is easy with a big engine and a sheet metal with a solid roller and some compression. The intake manifold starts limiting you at this range usually.


Yep, I'm one of those 500+ motors and couldn't be more pleased. A pump gas motor that runs the numbers shifting at 6500 rpm. It idles solid and steady with no drivability issues what so ever.

Thanks Erik!!!!

well since that came up...
\/---Pump gas, driven on the street, driven to and from the track, to and from the shore, out to dinner with the GF, etc. :D

well since that came up...
\/---Pump gas, driven on the street, driven to and from the track, to and from the shore, out to dinner with the GF, etc. :D


Ditto on that....except for the GF. My wife would kill me and then wouldn't let me drive her car anymore.lol.

Aren't these engines awesome. Major props WS6TransAm01!!

Ditto on that....except for the GF. My wife would kill me and then wouldn't let me drive her car anymore.lol.

Aren't these engines awesome. Major props WS6TransAm01!!

Granted that the LS1 has been the first V8 I have owned, and am too young to compare it to older V8's, but I think its an awesome motor! Room for improvement, yes, but its the best Ive seen in an N/A V8 motor from the factory.

Thanks for the props, but I just race it, CARTEK built it :)

cmon... a LS2 is not that much bigger than a LS1.....


I made 513 with my setup....

So swap my setup over to a LS1 add an electric water pump and you should have damn close to 500 rwhp....

True, an LS2 is not much bigger but its not only about size. Every year's new motor becomes more tech. advanced / build quality imporves etc. An LS2 can reach 400rwhp with only bolt-ons, where an LS1 comes in at 40 hp less. Its hard to compare what a H/C setup would do with all the differences.

WS6TransAm01 also should mention that his car holds the stock bottom end world record for the highest RWHP in an LS1 (beating TTP a few months back) to show how rare that kind of power is. (Im assuming nothing has changed with in the past few months)

And I would say to be ready to spend a solid 20K on mods to go from stock to that, after all of the supporting suspension mods and many other upgrades to the drivetrain etc. Thats why juice is your friend.

I'm close, 490rwhp with heads,cam,90/90

507.9 RWHP here. on 346CID. Just a set of ported LS6 heads, a cam, and the usual bolt ons.

With power like that, why aren't you "representing" over at e-town on Wednesday/Friday nights? The only LS1 F-Body running 10's, those nights, is from Staten Island. Bring that beast down this coming Wednesday... :)

I work Wednsday nights cause I go to school in the daytime, even now I have summer classes. On Fri/Sat they say I'm not allowed to race with bullet mufflers. Plus in the summer... sitting in a black car, not able to run A/C, in a fire-jacket and helmet... not my idea of fun.

Plus I hate E-Town cause they never prep the track, and I don't need to go sideways. I'll be back in the fall to check the tuning and shakedown the car for the cool weather.

I know excuses are like assholes, and everyone has them, but thats the story and I'm sticking to it.

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WS6TransAm01 also should mention that his car holds the stock bottom end world record for the highest RWHP in an LS1 (beating TTP a few months back) to show how rare that kind of power is. (Im assuming nothing has changed with in the past few months)

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WS6TransAm01 also should mention that his car holds the stock bottom end world record for the highest RWHP in an LS1 (beating TTP a few months back) to show how rare that kind of power is. (Im assuming nothing has changed with in the past few months)


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I did not want to say that in fear of looking like an asshole. But yes you are right. Thank you.

^ Dont hold back man, it wouldn't be show-boating, just telling the truth. Its important for the noobs to realize how hard/uncommon 500rwhp is. Plus its a nice record to hold and good to make others aware there have been two shops duking it out.

^ Dont hold back man, it wouldn't be show-boating, just telling the truth. Its important for the noobs to realize how hard/uncommon 500rwhp is. Plus its a nice record to hold and good to make others aware there have been two shops duking it out.


That is true, its not easy at all, LOL

Thanks!

I work Wednsday nights cause I go to school in the daytime, even now I have summer classes. On Fri/Sat they say I'm not allowed to race with bullet mufflers...

Interesting, as they never enforced that rule (in regards to bullet resonators) with any of my friends. Not so sure on Saturdays though, as I have to work that day, but on Wednesday and Friday nights, there was never any problem...
Plus in the summer, sitting in a black car, not able to run A/C, in a fire-jacket and helmet... not my idea of fun.

We only sit in our cars for about four to five minutes before runs. I know it's pretty tough during the summer, but hey, we do what we must... :D

Plus I hate E-Town cause they never prep the track, and I don't need to go sideways. I'll be back in the fall to check the tuning and shakedown the car for the cool weather.

They definitely prep the track. That alcohol adhesive that they switched to awhile back caused one of the axle's on my '86 to snap like a freaking twig. As for excuses, well, it's all good. We definitely need more LS1 F-Body's on those two nights, so hopefully you'll reconsider hopping on the bandwagon this coming Fall.... ;)

Take it easy... :thumb:

ls2 402 all motor 517 rwhp

Interesting, as they never enforced that rule (in regards to bullet resonators) with any of my friends. Not so sure on Saturdays though, as I have to work that day, but on Wednesday and Friday nights, there was never any problem...

I went to E-town on the Sat I got my car back, they let me go through tech, I sat in the lanes for 2 hours. Finaly when it was my turn to run, as I was about to go around the wall, they stoped me and told me I could not race because I had bullet mufflers.

No they never hastled me on Wednsdays, just on Saturdays.


We only sit in our cars for about four to five minutes before runs. I know it's pretty tough during the summer, but hey, we do what we must... :D


I realy miss racing in the summers, You have no idea how bad Im itching to row the gears down the track, but I wait till fall as I have for years. LOL


They definitely prep the track. That alcohol adhesive that they switched to awhile back caused one of the axle's on my '86 to snap like a freaking twig. As for excuses, well, it's all good. We definitely need more LS1 F-Body's on those two nights, so hopefully you'll reconsider hopping on the bandwagon this coming Fall.... ;)

Take it easy... :thumb:

I have never been able to hook as well at E-town as I have at other tracks. Maybe something changed this year, but I doubt it. Ill see in the Fall I suppose.

:)

I have question, if European cars can make 400-500 NA hp from engines with much less CI, why can't we? I really want to know.