Automotive News, Media & Press - GM and FORD in talk about a merger

i dont know if anyone watches the stock market at all but on opening bell this moring on msnbc it looks likes GM and FORD are in talks to possiably merge :eek2: ... imo this if this does go threw it just to save fords ass....

stock buying time.

thinking about it, damn, Mustangs will have LSx motors, and Vettes will have SVT badges on em, Crap.

lol.

stock buying time.

thinking about it, damn, Mustangs will have LSx motors, and Vettes will have SVT badges on em, Crap.

lol.
i agree stock buying time for sure but i have no money im a broke college kid :(

its just bs to help get the stock back up im sure....kinda like the thing about toyota or nissan and gm merging....considering GM produces 18 percent of the worlds automobiles, the government wont let it fail cause itd lose all the money from the taxes and what not.

and i dont think gm and ford merging would be favored for many reasons...one being that if there is no other big domestic competition, what incentive is there to build high horsepower applications?, itd all turn to foreign gas saving tree hugging cars again like in the 80's and early 90's. america needs that competition and dont bring up dodge, they are the ones who need to be bought out, cummins motors are about the only good thing that is in those vehicles. if gm bought them and had cummins on a contract for their vehicles, can you imagine the high horsepower and torque that could come out even on top of the duramax?

an article on it....

I felt sick to my stomach thinking about it...

http://www.cbc.ca/story/money/national/2006/09/18/fordgm.html

i understand where you are coming from but i guess what they were saying was that if they did merge it would help on the cost of buying similar parts that are used in production but your probly right about it being bs the muscle car wars are starting to heat back up and if this happend imo i think it would slow it down

an article on it....

I felt sick to my stomach thinking about it...

http://www.cbc.ca/story/money/national/2006/09/18/fordgm.html
yeah i got that same feeling when i heard it on the msnbc earlier

Isnt this one of the signs of the apocalypse?

Moving to Automotive News, Media & Press Forum (from General LSX Discussion).

Doesn't make me sick to my stomach. Would be sick, Ford and GM sharing information could make for some cool shit.

What would be cool is if you had car companies and dealerships specializing in a specific sector of the market. You could have your sports car division which would sell camaros, mustangs, corvettes, etc. Down the street you have the sedans division with the Ford and GM sedans etc, next door to the suvs, then the trucks.

As it is, in my town we have a car dealership group that has 23 different brands in a 2 miles stretch. They don't care what you buy, just as long as you buy it from them...

They are Fredbeans of Doylestown .. http://www.fredbeans.com/index.htm?bhcp=1

You can go from Cadillac to Hyundai in a matter of crossing the street or going to the next show room. It's the modern way anymore.

A DOHC v8 in an f-body......hmmm.

Whatever they can do anything to get ahead of the imports??

oh dear...............

A DOHC v8 in an f-body......hmmm.

Whatever they can do anything to get ahead of the imports?? :nono:

Wow i cant belive it. This guy at my job that has a 05 gt is going to be pissed.

then it might be gfm. general ford motors.

So we will have SSVT cars and the Shelby Camaro? :poke: Maybe a Mustang Z28? :confused:

Wouldn't mind if that happened. It may help keep cost down and make for better quality American cars.

It will never happen

A DOHC v8 in an f-body......hmmm.

Whatever they can do anything to get ahead of the imports?? :jest: DOHC V8? like what? a ball-less 4.6? That'd be a turd!

Heres an other

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/18/breaking-gm-and-ford-rumored-alliance/

Chevy Mustang
GM GT
Ford Camaro

:emb:

What would be cool is if you had car companies and dealerships specializing in a specific sector of the market. You could have your sports car division which would sell camaros, mustangs, corvettes, etc. Down the street you have the sedans division with the Ford and GM sedans etc, next door to the suvs, then the trucks.




That might be interesting....

GM is doing well without anyones help -- they wont do it.

Beside the Corvette and until they start producing the Camaro Chevy hasn't been into making performance cars for the average Joe. At least Ford makes a performance vehicle people can afford . I'm a Chevy guy at heart but Chevy kind of reminds me of Dodge about 15yrs ago when they started to make everything front wheel drive. Maybe the merge would make things turn around for Chevy faster.

Performance cars aren't bread and butter money makers, but GM has many more performance/sporty cars -- Grand Prix GXP, Monte Carlo SS, Impala SS, Cobalt SS S/C, Saturn Ion Redline, base Solstice/Sky with GXP and Redline versions, GTP G6, Trailblazer SS, C6, Z06, GTO, Cadillac V-series, SSR, Silverado SS.

Now go look on a Ford/Lincoln/Mercury lot -- what do they have? The Mustang and....?

GM also has many new cars coming -- CTS (300hp?), HHR SS, Aura Redline, Astra Redline, GTO, Camaro, RWD Impala, G8, 600+ hp Corvette, Cadillac Kappa car.....

this would suck loud! if they do merge then Nissans GTR will be the next ride

Performance cars aren't bread and butter money makers, but GM has many more performance/sporty cars -- Grand Prix GXP, Monte Carlo SS, Impala SS, Cobalt SS S/C, Saturn Ion Redline, base Solstice/Sky with GXP and Redline versions, GTP G6, Trailblazer SS, C6, Z06, GTO, Cadillac V-series, SSR, Silverado SS.

Now go look on a Ford/Lincoln/Mercury lot -- what do they have? The Mustang and....?

GM also has many new cars coming -- CTS (300hp?), HHR SS, Aura Redline, Astra Redline, GTO, Camaro, RWD Impala, G8, 600+ hp Corvette, Cadillac Kappa car.....Let me clarify what I'm saying rear wheel drive v8 pony car that is affordable to the average Joe.as far as the Cobolt,Monte Carlo ect,thats my entire point.Front wheel drive junk, As far as trail blazer ss give me a break.The vette is a bad ass all around performer,but if you want to get into that price range Ford has the Shelby Mustang and ford Gt500 thats in production right now.

this would suck loud! if they do merge then Nissans GTR will be the next ride

Wow, you have $100K of disposable income just laying around for this (or the next Poopra for that matter)??!

The vette is a bad ass all around performer,but if you want to get into that price range Ford has the Shelby Mustang and ford Gt500 thats in production right now.
did you not read the fourm that stated that the shelby will be sold as a "flagship"car=limted edition and will be priced at $81000 how is that afforable to the avrg joe honestly the avg .joe has a better chance buying a z06 vette for 60 some thousand.

Wait. The Shelby Mustang and GT500 aren't the same? :confused:

IMO the "merger" has already done it's job. I believe it's all about the hype as both GM and Ford are financially falling. This "mergrer" is probly just propaganda...and here we all sit, discussing them...see my point?

Wow, you have $100K of disposable income just laying around for this (or the next Poopra for that matter)??!


Was joking mr. literal. It would suck to have any ford parts in my chevy.

i dont know if anyone watches the stock market at all but on opening bell this moring on msnbc it looks likes GM and FORD are in talks to possiably merge :eek2: ... imo this if this does go threw it just to save fords ass....

You have it backwards. It would be to save GM's ass. Oh yah nevermind they finished thereself off along time ago.

GM is doing well without anyones help -- they wont do it.


:confused: You call losing 60 billion dollars in a year doing well?

Wait. The Shelby Mustang and GT500 aren't the same? :confused:A no.

did you not read the fourm that stated that the shelby will be sold as a "flagship"car=limted edition and will be priced at $81000 how is that afforable to the avrg joe honestly the avg .joe has a better chance buying a z06 vette for 60 some thousand.That's not what I said, If you want to talk about the Corvette price range then yes consider the shelby mustang in the same league. But as far as 81k for the car , I worked for a ford dealer working in the fleet depertment the car is selling for 45k all day long. Yes it is limited production some dealers are marking up the price for those who don't know any better.As far as me saying the ave Joe could affordthe car I was talking about the Mustang Gt.I was just making a point about the different performance cars that Ford is offering right now.I know Chevy can make a faster car for less money I'm not saying Ford is better just saying Chevy needs to step up with more affordable true rear wheel performance vehicles.

Isnt this one of the signs of the apocalypse?
agreed

Granted we all have different points of view on this, from simpley Ford/Chevy, to what cars would be offered and called. But if it helps save Jobs which is number 1 I think and secondly gives us all great products alot cheaper. Then wouldnt we all be better off? I think they still would offer the Mustang and Camaro cause they both would sale. Someone (female) told me that Mustangs are muscle cars for females. I fell out laughing.

Was joking mr. literal. It would suck to have any ford parts in my chevy.

SORRY! It's just that sooo many think these "Nippon Supacars" are going to be priced way down around the Evo/STI/350Z range. It AIN'T gonna happen, they're delusional!!

Besides, I'd rather have Ford parts in my Chevy (or vice versa), than have to buy from Japan. :nono: :pissed: :usa:

GM and FORD merge = Camaro's with factory blowers :devil:

GM and FORD merge = Camaro's with factory blowers :devil:There you go! :hail:

Isnt this one of the signs of the apocalypse?

Maybe, but I thought it would start raining frogs when NASCAR (the Frances and that fat pig, Helton) let TOYota into Nextel Cup!! :jest:

Im always bringing this up to this guy at work with a 05 gt and all pro ford. I tell him to look out for the next chevy mustang.

Still sucks out loud, rumor or not, some people are just loyal to what they like.
If they join, wouldnt it just show that american companies cant run as good as foreign? Its kind of a desperate move, they just need more creativity and smarter ceos that arent affraid to try new things.