Stereo & Electronics - two 8"s in the sails or one 10" in stealth?




presto_z
02-12-2007, 07:35 PM
i want a decent system in my car, but nothing to drastic.. i dont listen to any rap, just pure american METAL (well not just american metal but yeah).. i still wanna have good bass for the double bass drums and for when i/passengers watch movies (hardley ever)


so should i do squeeze two 8"s in the sail panels or one big 10" in subthumps stealth enclosure?


KEE AUDIO
02-12-2007, 08:30 PM
I recommend one 10" sub in stealth enclosure. It is a very versatile setup. Squeezing 8" subs in the sails would be difficult. Cutting the sail panel inside with a dremel, making sure it is perfect, then making sure the clearance between the plastic panel and the opening aren't buzzing, etc. Not that it hasn't been done but I've seen people have issues just getting a quality pair of 6.5's in that location if the magnet is too deep. For good kick drum bass a 10" sub is perfect. I run two stealths but one is sufficient and you will like how it sounds. Follow that up with some nice components in the doors and you will have a nice sounding system. I listen to alot of metal as well!!

F-117HWK
02-12-2007, 08:38 PM
Where did you find the stealth sub enclosure for the passenger side? And are they still sold?

Thanks,
Jason


presto_z
02-12-2007, 08:44 PM
subthump.

KEE AUDIO
02-12-2007, 09:02 PM
Subthump used to sell them but they were discontinued. Pretty easy to make one but it does delete your spare...something to keep in mind on a lonely night in the sticks. I just carry a portable air compressor and a tire repair kit in a duffle in the trunk.

presto_z
02-12-2007, 09:22 PM
ohh shit my bad.. i didnt notice the "passenger" part of that question... ooops

i have 2 alpine type E's (from a few years back) maybe ill buy the driverside and make the pass....


walking dead do u have any pics of the pass. side box... and is it completly covered by the panel?

presto_z
02-12-2007, 10:37 PM
i just one 2 10" MA subs for 2.50 on ebay... they are prolly crap.. but for 2.50 u cant go wrong

F-117HWK
02-12-2007, 10:54 PM
Damn thats what I thought...thanks for the info

Tigws6
02-12-2007, 11:03 PM
I have a 10" in the driver's side stealth enclosure. Sounds great and allows for some really good 8.5" speakers for the sail panels.

Snootch
02-13-2007, 03:34 AM
You want to go with the "stealth" enclosure in the hatch. (driver's or passenger side) Because having an enclosure in the hatch sounds so much better because of the inherent cabin gain of hatchback-style cars. Technically, (assuming the same power is used) a pair of 8"s will outperform a single 10" due to the piston area of both 8"s being greater than the single 10". But if the 10" is in the hatch well, and the 8"s are in the sail panels then the 10" will definately perform better due to the cabin gain of the hatch.

KEE AUDIO
02-13-2007, 07:44 AM
Here's the passenger side subthump stealth. You have to cutyour panel out in order to use it. I figured if I ever get rid of it I'll just get one from a junker.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i13/walking-dead/subthumpstealth1.jpg
Heres the drivers side:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i13/walking-dead/vantagestealthjl.jpg
That was my Vantage stealthbox. I now have a subthump to match the passenger side. I will be taking more photos of my system later as I have to install my new HU and my XM system. I think I'll get it in this weekend hopefully.

dragonrage
02-13-2007, 08:00 AM
Whichever way is cheaper, IMO

lo_jack
02-14-2007, 11:25 AM
I vote for the 10. A ten in a properly sized enclosure, even with minimal power, sounds pretty good, and more importantly reproduces frequencies at the low end that most 8s (specifically most you could fit in the sails) cannot do well (especially in that location, with infinite baffle), or shouldn't be made to at all. I have a ten in the cubby hole, and it sounds really good for being an underpowered MTX.

Now what I would really say is put some reasonable 8s or really nice factory replacement size components in the sails, but put a 12 in the back in an enclosure. LPF all of them, but run the sails from 100-500hz or so (depending on the driver) and the 12 from 150 or so down. Give yourself a little overlap, but let each do what they specialize in. No 8 (and only a handful of 10's) will sound as good as a twelve down at 40 or 50, but the 12 will essentially miss everything from 150 up, depending on the enclosure and the driver itself.

Then you can HPF the rest of your speakers (which are either 6.5s or smaller components or coaxes) and save them the anguish of doing anything below 150hz.

Just my opinion.

sgt0704
02-14-2007, 01:49 PM
i ran JL 8W0's in my sails. i like them. besides, it's different. everyone and their mom has the stealth box. besides, you can't get much more stealth than the sailpanels.

you're not gonna get earth shattering bass, but it will still sound good.

Lythropus
02-14-2007, 02:27 PM
I figured if I ever get rid of it I'll just get one from a junker.

We don't have junk yard ls1's around here :(

One 10 will sound better than the two eight unless you have someone fiberglass you a box in the sail panel...

KEE AUDIO
03-20-2007, 10:01 PM
Do you have junkyard 4th gens??!! They use the same rear panels whether it's a V-6, LT1 or an LS1 right??!! Why does it have to be an LS1 rear panel...OH, I forget the LS1 cars had faster rear panels the the V-6 cars...the WS6 rear plastic panels were even faster as I recall!! LMAO!!!!!

WhiteBird00
03-21-2007, 08:10 AM
Do you have junkyard 4th gens??!! They use the same rear panels whether it's a V-6, LT1 or an LS1 right??!! Why does it have to be an LS1 rear panel...OH, I forget the LS1 cars had faster rear panels the the V-6 cars...the WS6 rear plastic panels were even faster as I recall!! LMAO!!!!!
The rear panels vary by model year - the LT1 panels are different colors than the ones used in later models. Also, earlier Camaros didn't have hatch speakers so that also made the panels different. In fact, even among the late model Camaros there were differences because colors changed between 99 and 00 as well as different panels for Monsoon vs non-Monsoon. So it's not as easy to find the right panels as you might think.

presto_z
03-22-2007, 01:37 PM
well i decided to go two 10's.. i got a pass. and driver side stealth box never used from a member on here for cheap..

Kage
03-29-2007, 09:28 AM
i want a decent system in my car, but nothing to drastic.. i dont listen to any rap, just pure american METAL (well not just american metal but yeah).. i still wanna have good bass for the double bass drums and for when i/passengers watch movies (hardley ever)


so should i do squeeze two 8"s in the sail panels or one big 10" in subthumps stealth enclosure?

No freagin 8" subs in sails they suck ballzzzz. :chuck-bal

Get JLAudio 10W6v2 sub shove it in the stealth and you will rock your ass off, i do. :judge: :jest:

marcus769
04-01-2007, 02:49 AM
Look for Bose systems in the 97 and older cars... Holy SHIT they sound good! My 1996 SS had one of the best stock systems i've heard to date... Plenty of bass!

Trans Am WS6 420
04-03-2007, 08:49 AM
So stupid question here :) Forgive my ignorance on the subject, as I'm normally a horsepower guy, and search seems to be busted again...

If I go with a driver's side stealth box, where is the best place to put the amp so that it's out of the way?