Small Block & Big Block Chevy Specific - trying to find a manual trans




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ahank1
05-22-2007, 06:42 PM
i was wondering what manual transmissons can i hook to a 454?


LSWaaa?
05-22-2007, 07:00 PM
if i remember correctly, a t56 should be able to bolt right up.

ahank1
05-22-2007, 07:26 PM
oh god if that is ture that just made my life so much easier.... right now i have 2 of those in storage lol... i am swaping out my 3.4 for the 454 so that should be some noticable gain's ;) lol


merriman44
05-22-2007, 10:19 PM
Give McCleod a call. They will have the proper blow-proof bellhousing and adapter. Pretty sure you'll also need an extended pilot bushing. The rest is pretty easy! At least that works for a sbc

ulakovic22
05-23-2007, 03:50 PM
LT1 T56 will bolt right up no prob. Same bolt pattern as SBC/BBC. LS1 T56 will not bolt right up, you will need to call McLeod to get the bellhousing or adapter. Also what kind of clutch you want to run will sway your decision, push (LSx) or pull (LTx).

ahank1
05-23-2007, 06:25 PM
lol good quesiton.. i have no clue i have just barley started on the motor.. so any sudgestions or comments are welcome... i am right now cleaning up my block then i am going to dig in and start swaping things out.. i would really appreciate any kind of
tips
help
ideas
anything you might do

dazdazdaz
05-23-2007, 09:22 PM
THe LT1 T56 will not readilly bolt up.The bellhousing will not fit(Its too narrow).You can get an adaptor but with the expense you will be better off with a Richmond or Tremec

ulakovic22
05-23-2007, 10:12 PM
Yes it will, I have one in my 97 Trans Am right now bolted up to a Mark IV 454 with 990's on it. LT1 motors are the same as a SBC which is the same as a BBC, LS1's are different. Even with a LS1 it's still cheaper to buy the bellhousing than to get a Richmond 6 speed.

ulakovic22
05-23-2007, 10:15 PM
As far as clutch choices it's really up to you. What car is it going in? LS1 you will have more clutch choices since push style clutches are the norm. The LT1 clutch is a pull type and isn't very common so you will be limited to only a few good clutches like McLoed and Spec depending on how much power you are looking for.

ahank1
05-23-2007, 11:06 PM
the car is right now a 3.4 camaro.... i am only looking for 500-600 hp it is going to be a street strip car i am in no hurry for anything i am doing this slow and makeing sure i get everything i need first.

ulakovic22
05-23-2007, 11:25 PM
You should be good to go then. The car is going to go together very fast, you just have to have some money to buy the right stuff and an idea in your head of what you want to do. Are you planning on using a BMR k-member? I'm using one and I'm very impressed, everything pretty much bolts up.

dazdazdaz
05-24-2007, 07:31 AM
Yes it will, I have one in my 97 Trans Am right now bolted up to a Mark IV 454 with 990's on it. LT1 motors are the same as a SBC which is the same as a BBC, LS1's are different. Even with a LS1 it's still cheaper to buy the bellhousing than to get a Richmond 6 speed.


Do you have the part number?..I have called McLeod before and I was told that they dont have anything that will fit the T56 on a thirdgen with a BBC.

I ended up going with T5 swap parts and either a Richmond or Tremec for the tranny.

ulakovic22
05-24-2007, 09:23 AM
I don't know anything about Third gen Camaro's, only 4th gen's. I know a T56 will fit in a third gen, I've seen articles on it and I think there are swap kits from Kinsler and others. Since the T56 came in the 4th gen camaros there is no issue with the tunnel being too narrow. Basically if you have a 4th gen you can pull the motor out, get a BMR k-member and depending on LS or LT you can drop it in there with the same bellhousing (LT) or the McLeod bellhousing (LS). Mechanically there are no issues other than hood clearance. The OP is putting it in a 3.4 Camaro which I assume is a 4th gen V6 from 93-97 since the newer 4th gen V6's had a 3.8 I believe.

ahank1
05-24-2007, 05:56 PM
yya its a 95 camaro ........ i am going to use the bmr kmember ... do you have a part number for it.... i have a plan i just hope i can do it all.. i am taking my time with this so i dont mess anything up... and the t56 info makes me smile i am real happy that it will work.. that saves some cash for sure...

dazdazdaz
05-24-2007, 06:49 PM
I don't know anything about Third gen Camaro's, only 4th gen's. I know a T56 will fit in a third gen, I've seen articles on it and I think there are swap kits from Kinsler and others. Since the T56 came in the 4th gen camaros there is no issue with the tunnel being too narrow. Basically if you have a 4th gen you can pull the motor out, get a BMR k-member and depending on LS or LT you can drop it in there with the same bellhousing (LT) or the McLeod bellhousing (LS). Mechanically there are no issues other than hood clearance. The OP is putting it in a 3.4 Camaro which I assume is a 4th gen V6 from 93-97 since the newer 4th gen V6's had a 3.8 I believe.


Its not the tunnel that they say is narrow.Its size of the housing that will fit the flywheel/clutch.I was asking them for a part number of the clutch/flywheel that will fit since the Mark IV has a 2 piece..Im not too familiar with manual trannies :captainobvious:

ulakovic22
05-24-2007, 09:00 PM
McLeod makes a flywheel that bolts to a 2-piece crank and will work with a T56. I'm going to be using it with my street twin. Part number is 460370 and you can order it with the different counter balances for the different engines.

dazdazdaz
05-25-2007, 06:19 AM
McLeod makes a flywheel that bolts to a 2-piece crank and will work with a T56. I'm going to be using it with my street twin. Part number is 460370 and you can order it with the different counter balances for the different engines.


so they make it for an internal and external balanced engine?Thanks for the info.Ill give them a call

ulakovic22
05-25-2007, 08:55 AM
Yeah, the part number above is for 0 balance, they make them for a 400, 454 and 502 and the part number will have 3C, 4C, or 5C on the end IIRC.

whytryz28
05-25-2007, 10:34 AM
Forget the T56 go with an old school bulletproof trans like the M22, or a Jerico Transmission. For some reason a 4-speed does it better then a 6-speed. Again my opinion for transmissions, i must be stuck in the older days (being that im only 18 lol) But yes the M22 has one of the harshest shift in the world but it can take more abuse then any transmission ive ever seen. The jericos are VERY expensive but worth every penny, NASCAR uses them, alot of Maxton Mile cars do as well, they have a proven rep. for holding power for vast amounts of time.


Hope this helps kinda????

ulakovic22
05-25-2007, 10:44 AM
I hope you are kidding :) The T56 is one of the strongest and most versatile trannys you can get. Using an old school 4 speed, while nostalgic and kinda cool will be a mistake and will soon become a nuisance. Plus it doesn't fit in a 4th gen without a lot of work. In this case a T56 is a direct replacement, fairly new so parts aren't an issue and can be built to take a lot of abuse. Look at TT Vipers, numerous blown and nitrous F-bodies pushing well over 500 RWHP, etc. IMHO there is no comparison.

ahank1
05-25-2007, 05:37 PM
ya dont get me wrong 4 speeds are the shit... but i am kinda looking for (as gay as this will sound) some gas mileage lol... and my dad with the 4 speed has to fill up every day he drives it i am looking for at least ever two days lol that sixth gear is a mirical worker for gas