Multimedia Exchange - Civic vs. GTO race pulled from rice website

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lnaFbYxJtk

Who the fuck races from a 60mph roll? :supergay:



Here is the excuses....
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39986

:cry: It's like stepping in a ant pile! :buttkick:

It does look/sound like he won the 1st race by a buch of car lenghts.... on the second race it sure looks/sounds like he let off the throttle.

What was done to the GTO, I might have missed it. Either way, a built B series hatch with a gt35 is gonna be pretty fast.....from 60 at least.

He needed his VTAC to kick in!

If that hatch had what they said it did that's one quick car. If you're going to go from a roll go from atleast 40. 20MPH was a huge handicap for the Civic; FWD and no bottom end.

holy shit i know all those people! their from west chester!

I didn't see anything impressive about the honda. A fully built and boosted motor having trouble with what appeared to be an exhaust/bolt on gto???

Here is the excuses....
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39986
Funny, how can there be excuses if the person who was racing didn't even respond? I just responded in the thread, have at it. I had a Trans Am, I don't disrespect them. My Civic should be pushing over 500whp in the next few weeks and hopefully a little over 600whp in a couple months after I get the head ported. I would have raced from a stop, except for the traction factor. Give the GTO a set of Mickey Thompson ET Drag Radials and he will run maybe a 12.8 and I will put on a set as well and go easy 11's on a base street tune.

I didn't see anything impressive about the honda. A fully built and boosted motor having trouble with what appeared to be an exhaust/bolt on gto???
Haha, having trouble? Him starting in first from 20mph roll at around 4500rpm and me starting in second at like 2000rpm needing to get to 5000rpm to have full boost. Talk about a good few seconds of lag, you don't notice how fast I reel him in after I start to boost? He was wide open throttle the entire time for both runs, I braked before him on the first run when I got to his door, the second run he did not let off. Wind noise and the fact that all the noise from the car is the exhaust, you aren't going to hear much of anything from a front view of the GTO. I took him by 25 cars from the second race.

25 cars my ass. Don't you think someone is gonna let off the throttle after gettin' pulled that hard? You measure car lengths to when YOU let off? Cause if so, I beat this drag foxbody that broke at the line at the track by like 30+ cars. I rock.

Haha, having trouble? Him starting in first from 20mph roll at around 4500rpm and me starting in second at like 2000rpm needing to get to 5000rpm to have full boost. Talk about a good few seconds of lag, you don't notice how fast I reel him in after I start to boost? He was wide open throttle the entire time for both runs, I braked before him on the first run when I got to his door, the second run he did not let off. Wind noise and the fact that all the noise from the car is the exhaust, you aren't going to hear much of anything from a front view of the GTO. I took him by 25 cars from the second race.


Yep I saw you reelling him in, but I would say the race was over by that point. When you get that far behind and running from a roll then yes I would call that having trouble. I hope your proud of yourself racing nearly stock cars with all the mods that you have. Show me a video of you beating a turbo goat then I'll be impressed.

If you know the owner, he won't. He had eight cars on me on the first race, if that was me, I would have stopped and tried to go again. He thought something was wrong with my car in the first race, yet he still decided to keep the pedal down. He always rips on his car, he even knows his was still wide open throttle. Look at the video, watch how fast it goes from behind him by a fender to burning by him to looking in the side mirror and seeing his small headlights. When I get my car tuned, I will get a race going with my friend Jordan's 600whp Z06 and post the video, I will hang decently.

Yep I saw you reelling him in, but I would say the race was over by that point. When you get that far behind and running from a roll then yes I would call that having trouble. I hope your proud of yourself racing nearly stock cars with all the mods that you have. Show me a video of you beating a turbo goat then I'll be impressed.
As I said, once I get tuned I plan on running my friend's 600whp Z06 just for the video.

As I said, once I get tuned I plan on running my friend's 600whp Z06 just for the video.
Good luck with the Z06. If you have trouble pulling a fairly stock GTO from a 20 roll, I doubt you can pull a 600hp Z06. Even from a 60 roll that vette is going to be in kick ass mode when it hits.

first of all, I call major, the most major BS Ever. This Ricer is A douche, If you are rolling a built motor with what i assume is a turbo, cause i don't know numbers and crap(GT35), then where is the spool???? I heard nothing and saw no hard up top pull from a turbo, no lag, no nothing. I am just disappointed. First race, LOSS! Second Race, there wasn't one!!!!!!! WEll, My Opinion, which isn't much, but looked like a load of crap to me.

dude ur fully built civic barly pulled a near stock gto. someone from from west chester needs to teach this guy a lesson on muscle cars.

I had a Trans Am, I don't disrespect them. My Civic should be pushing over 500whp in the next few weeks and hopefully a little over 600whp in a couple months after I get the head ported. Give the GTO a set of Mickey Thompson ET Drag Radials and he will run maybe a 12.8 and I will put on a set as well and go easy 11's on a base street tune.
Listen up you little son of a bitch, making comments like you have in this thread is why everyone who hates ricers, hates ricers. Most of the people on this website will give respect when respect is due. I for one give respect to any guy who takes a stock car, regardless of the vehicle and platform, and modifies it to any level of performance beyond factory specs. For you to come on here and say you owned an F-body and don't respect it is insulting and ignorant on your part. You don't respect the LSx platform because you built your block and added a turbo to beat what sounded like a bone stock GTO with a $35 cutout... from 60mph? Congratulations fuckstick, you're an idiot. You raced him from 60mph which puts you at a major advantage seeing as how you put a bigger than needed turbo on your motor. Of course you are gonna pull harder on the top end. "Hey everybody, under optimum conditions, I beat a stock GTO in my civic with a built motor and a power adder." You're a joke. Let's flip the script for a second and get a race of a turbo GTO running a stock Civic. "Hey everybody, I put oceans on a stock Civic in my GTO that has three times the displacement and a power adder." No one could give two shits less because they expect that outcome. And your car is doodoo butter until 5000 rpm. You make what, maybe 150hp until then? Must be a really fun car to drive in town. Your butt must hurt from getting assraped all over the street from light to light.

The difference between you and me is that I compare apples to apples. I wouldn’t dare put my car next to a head/cam F-body with an auto, big stall and sticky tires over a short distance, even if I do have twice the hp he does. No comparison because the cars are set-up differently. And it would be a joke for him to race me on the highway from a 60roll.

In conclusion, you're an idiot and I would LOVE the opportunity to race you in my car, which is built to the same degree as yours, because I would fucking DESTROY you from any speed under any conditions you asked for. We can race from 100 to 180mph if it gives you false hope that you might win. My car is set-up to rip ass on the highway but still punks out little shits like you at stoplights. You need to be humbled. When do you race that ZO6?

Let's not let this turn into a import vs. domestic pissing match please.

I'm so sick of the "if the GTO had been 'fully built' like the honda" crap. Run what ya brung, and if you lose, be a man and admit defeat.

And please, don't let me hear the "v8's are the past, japan is the future" crap either.

Let's not let this turn into a import vs. domestic pissing match please.

I'm so sick of the "if the GTO had been 'fully built' like the honda" crap. Run what ya brung, and if you lose, be a man and admit defeat.

And please, don't let me hear the "v8's are the past, japan is the future" crap either.

I agree!!! That BS gets so old.

I wish my car wasnt mangled...ide be up for some fun racing. I havent even had one good race since I built the thing. I guess I need to go hang out in the WC area more often to see what I can dig up. I have no idea what my car makes for power or how fast it will run. So Im game for running just about anyone with anything :) Its all for the fun isnt it???

J.

I took him by 25 cars from the second race.
So your 11 second car put 25 car lengths on a 12 second car, and he didnt let off right? :bs:

No, he didn't let off. He even said so on their local board.

And I don't believe in the ricer vs. domestic bullshit either. A car will be as fast as its owners pockets are deep, PERIOD. I say run what ya brung.

But compuwhatshisface doesn't need to come on here running his mouth and bragging about what SHOULD BE an easy kill for him.

quick little honda .... 60mph? ghey :rice

i love how in the ricers threads in the link... they are all like put a gs45 or whatever shit engines hey got in that civic with slicks and blow it... lights out for that gto...... lets do a 408 h/c and spray the gto with a 300...... what... civic... where... o in my mirror.. ok

Any one see the avator of the guy in post #38? Damn she's smoking hot...where's Spencespeed when you need him?

Give the GTO a set of Mickey Thompson ET Drag Radials and he will run maybe a 12.8 and I will put on a set as well and go easy 11's on a base street tune.

Stock Z06's run 11's. How do you plan on beating one that has an extra 150hp? Also, I hope this race is going to be from a stop or else you best not come on here and brag about it.

Stock Z06's run 11's. How do you plan on beating one that has an extra 150hp? Also, I hope this race is going to be from a stop or else you best not come on here and brag about it.

LOL look in his sig. his fastest car that he posted is a domestic. gotta admit though civic looks good. but that is about it, just another johnny tran and his honda. i would drive one to if i lived in a country where the speed limit was 50kmh.

I had a Trans Am, I don't disrespect them.

For you to come on here and say you owned an F-body and don't respect it is insulting and ignorant on your part.
read that again, you misread what he said...

that being said, its your own fault for building a car that can't race below a 60 roll... thats not a realistic race, AT ALL. Putting a big turbo on your motor just to say you have it is dumb, why not put a smaller one on and make the same power, but spool up faster? Doesn't make sense at all.... And I'd like to see you run an 11.XX if you won't even race on the street from a dig... I doubt you would be able to break the 11's

i was getting alittle pissed off reading that other thread in that other forum. That douch started talkin about "typical domestic owners" I was getting alittle pissed. From the places ive been, and the shit ive seen, both at tracks and at meets, thier are MORE douch bag import owners than thier are douch bag domestic owners. I avoid alot of meets cause of the ricer types. I like car enthusiest, not douch bag fan boys. I know alot of domestic ricers, but the ratio dosent even compare to the amount of douch import ricers. Ok, sorry, rant over.

He thought something was wrong with my car in the first race...
There was. I just can't decide if it's the fact that the car is a Civic or the fact that you were driving it.

What's the point in acting like such a cocky prick because you can beat a relatively stockish 4,000 lb car with a fully built engine, turbo, and probably weight reduced grocery getter? Congratulations. I hope your ego isn't based on winning that second race.

What's funny is, I don't think that half of you realized that I owned a 1998 Trans Am and loved it.

Read the thread a bit more and you will see the full out discriptions. I will try and go out in the next few days with my friend and get a video clip of my speedometer from a 20mph roll in second gear, like how I raced the GTO, and in first gear.

Believe me, I don't want to start anything, but I am going to stand up for my car. Car is going to be making atleast 500whp in the next few weeks after I get it tuned, done deal. Then I go port the head and free up a lot of restriction up there and should be able to make 600whp from what tuners say.

Check the original thread, the owner is even admitting.

i was getting alittle pissed off reading that other thread in that other forum. That douch started talkin about "typical domestic owners" I was getting alittle pissed.
I am allowed to, beacuse I used to be one of those typical domestic owners. That's what 5 cars after I had my Trans Am, I've still yet to go back to a V8. Not that I didn't want to, I just can't handle the scene and the "mature" idiots.

LOL look in his sig. his fastest car that he posted is a domestic. gotta admit though civic looks good. but that is about it, just another johnny tran and his honda. i would drive one to if i lived in a country where the speed limit was 50kmh.
That is a different Civic, I sold that one. This one should be hitting 11's with slicks as is, tuned should be going 10's.

No, he didn't let off. He even said so on their local board.

And I don't believe in the ricer vs. domestic bullshit either. A car will be as fast as its owners pockets are deep, PERIOD. I say run what ya brung.

But compuwhatshisface doesn't need to come on here running his mouth and bragging about what SHOULD BE an easy kill for him.
I am not, I'm just defending myself. People don't realize that there are a lot of variables. I could have went in first gear the first race and had fun with traction or start in second and hope the lag wasn't terrible, I made the wrong choice.

What's funny is, I don't think that half of you realized that I owned a 1998 Trans Am and loved it.
No, what's funny is that you don't realize what a cocky asshole you're acting like in the threads and in the little comments in the video.

Your car is fast. There's no arguing that. It's impressive that you are able to get that kind of power out of it. I hate Civics, but I have to give credit where credit is due.

You're just not due any credit for your attitude... because it sucks.

jus quit the bullshit and go from a stop. if you have no choice but to roll.....then go from 1st or second gear.

Import and domestic arguements are dumb plain and simple.It gives great satifaction for a 4cyl. owner to beat a domestic exspecially one where the ownerknows nothing about the 4cyl world and pops off with ricer comments.. And that goes both ways ..

Your car is quick but with the races shown on the vids I wouldnt be worried about hogging the head I would more worried about a driver mod. Learn your car some more before you go and kill some one or yourself . Torque steer can be a motherfucker and with you not knowing how your car was gonna act then yeah DRIVER MOD..

Once you have taken care of that post up some vids of kills or races with a higher class of cars.. Not some lard ass few bolt on gto..

Not that I didn't want to, I just can't handle the scene and the "mature" idiots.
LOL and the import scene is any better???? :gtfo:

I am allowed to, beacuse I used to be one of those typical domestic owners. That's what 5 cars after I had my Trans Am, I've still yet to go back to a V8. Not that I didn't want to, I just can't handle the scene and the "mature" idiots.

Thier is a reason why i stay away from certain meets, and certain people, not all necassaraly import owners cause im friends with quite a few in my local group and who's cars i do like while i wouldnt own them, but its because i dont like getting caught up with people who talk alot and piss me off cause i tend to get pissed very easily. Its completely YOUR FAULT for being one of those "typical domestic" owners and obviously one of the people i would like to avoid. Dont lump me and everyone else in with individuals u meet. I have not said anything about ur car because clearly u are faster than that GTO and it seems u have a very powerful car, but u need to not be such a shit and start lumping everyone who doesent drive an import together. I guess the guys i hang out with on saterdays are "mature" idiots because we all talk about cars and the next track rental or dyno day huh! Its funny to becsue yeah, they are mature about the hobby, thats why i hang with them and i can think of atleast three that have both fast f-bodies and some sort of fast import. I guess that makes us mature idiots because we dont have a wing on our car or neon lights underneath the body!-rant over :punch:

im glade you shut up the dousche bag kid ...... i guess beating mostly stock auto gto's is big deal now.......

btw how would you expect to run high 11's on drag radials... you cant even beat a mostly stock auto gto from a low roll. if it was a dig run @ the track i would think he would easily beat you to the 1320. you need some traction help my friend or a better boost controller (4-6psi first gear, 10-12psi second, and then pour it on above that.)

lol... I would rather drive home in a GTO anyday over a pos civic win or loose. what a shit box

Heads up from a dig or shut the fuck up. It was a lame vid. Sorry driver of the civic is a tool. It doesnt matter if you owned a ta or not. You added bitch ass comments from your one sided video....and you barely beat a stock gto. Conratufuckinlations!!!! You took your car from slow, hollowed it out, dumped a turbo in it and got beat from 20mph to ???? by an almost stock gto.

Well my hotcammed bolt on ls1 beat a CAI/EXHAUST civic by 25 cars from 20-????

Do you see how stupid that sounds. Nobody cares because you didnt do anything impressive. Nothing....zilch....zip...notta.

I say get your tune and your "mickey thompson drag radials" shut the fuck up and race from a dig. Put up or shut up. Until you put up a real race, I shall call you "fat asian kid with average cocky import attitude with no car to back it up".

Even if the rice car wins a race its still a rice car!!!!!Enough said!!!

nice civic.

what are the mods on the GTO

Haha, having trouble? Him starting in first from 20mph roll at around 4500rpm and me starting in second at like 2000rpm needing to get to 5000rpm to have full boost. Talk about a good few seconds of lag, you don't notice how fast I reel him in after I start to boost?

This is why I own a cammed M6 LS1 with 4.10s that romps from any RPM and MPH. Have fun losing most races because you're not "boosting". :lol:

where at in westchester ill have to make an appearence and show ya what a 700 rear wheel horsepower trans am looks like from any mph

this thread needs locked. now i know rob on a personal level. i know what he is about and who he is. he has nice cars and respect for all makes/models. that being said i didnt read all the post, nor do i want to, but from what ive seen everyone is being ignorant to everyone. its bullshit. plain and simple just because this kid owns a gto doesnt mean his shit doesnt stink. maybe this kid was a toolbag. who the fuck knows, and who cares. plain and simple rob put the gto in its place. run whatcha brung whichever way its agreed upon. look at supras for god sakes. suck from a dig, but domniate from a roll, and look how worshiped upon those cars are. god forbid someone has a kick ass, fast civic....ive said my peace....take it as you will.....

this thread needs locked. now i know rob on a personal level. i know what he is about and who he is. he has nice cars and respect for all makes/models. that being said i didnt read all the post, nor do i want to, but from what ive seen everyone is being ignorant to everyone. its bullshit. plain and simple just because this kid owns a gto doesnt mean his shit doesnt stink. maybe this kid was a toolbag. who the fuck knows, and who cares. plain and simple rob put the gto in its place. run whatcha brung whichever way its agreed upon. look at supras for god sakes. suck from a dig, but domniate from a roll, and look how worshiped upon those cars are. god forbid someone has a kick ass, fast civic....ive said my peace....take it as you will.....


So you didnt read the thread, but you want it locked because you know the guy. Was the gto put in its place the first run? Plus the only one who seemed cocky in the vid was the honda driver. What does a supra have to do with anything? Im not being a jerk, but kick ass fast civic?? that barly beat a stock gto?

That is a different Civic, I sold that one. This one should be hitting 11's with slicks as is, tuned should be going 10's.


WELL IF THIS IS TRUE :burn: I would love to get a ride in that thing.

11's not happening with the civic, 12's probably not, 13's maby.....by the time you hit boost, the 1320 is half over. my guess is, you put 10K on this motor and start melting pistons.

DOWN BOY!! EASY BOY!!!!!(Dean)

this thread needs locked. now i know rob on a personal level. i know what he is about and who he is. he has nice cars and respect for all makes/models. that being said i didnt read all the post, nor do i want to, but from what ive seen everyone is being ignorant to everyone. its bullshit. plain and simple just because this kid owns a gto doesnt mean his shit doesnt stink. maybe this kid was a toolbag. who the fuck knows, and who cares. plain and simple rob put the gto in its place. run whatcha brung whichever way its agreed upon. look at supras for god sakes. suck from a dig, but domniate from a roll, and look how worshiped upon those cars are. god forbid someone has a kick ass, fast civic....ive said my peace....take it as you will.....
so just cause you said so we'll go ahead and lock the thread so your boy Rob doesnt get insulted anymore for being a douche bag..ok buddy.
all that smack talkin on Tristate and he barely kept up with a Stock AUTO GTO...so sad.

i didnt even read the tristate board....i told you i skimmed over everything, what dont you get about that? i can say we are friends, but we rarely hang out anymore because of his school and distance of where we live. never the less, he is a good guy, down to earth, and once u get to know him a fun person to be around. i take his comments alittle more light i guess because i know who he is....anyways, i dont need to get flammed by anyone here because i like this forum....i guess let the trash talking begin.... :eyes:

i didnt even read the tristate board....i told you i skimmed over everything, what dont you get about that? i can say we are friends, but we rarely hang out anymore because of his school and distance of where we live. never the less, he is a good guy, down to earth, and once u get to know him a fun person to be around. i take his comments alittle more light i guess because i know who he is....anyways, i dont need to get flammed by anyone here because i like this forum....i guess let the trash talking begin.... :eyes:
no one was flaming you. ive known Rob for years so i know just how "mature" he is. maybe he's grown up a little since the Trans am days but that doesnt appear to be the case. we're just letting you know that if you havent read the comments on both boards than its kinda hard to sit there and tell us not to come down on him just cause you know the guy. know what i mean?

what are the mods on the GTO

Wow a fast civic you dont see those too often.Yes civics can be fast and they only have 4 cylinders but if you trying to build the fastest car ever will will go with more cubes. So I take it the gto was mostly stock also and this civic is heavily modded.

Any one see the avator of the guy in post #38? Damn she's smoking hot...
Hell yeah, she is. That was the last post I looked at in that thread, then I closed it, and then as soon as I came on here I saw this one, haha. :cheers:

i know my car would rape that civic and im only doing like 380rwhp, i know of another civic that would annihilate that civic be it from a dig or a roll

LOL and the import scene is any better???? :gtfo:
I miss spoke. In my area, the kids with domestics try to act like they are the "mature" bunch, when in fact they are idiots. I can still go up to random domestic owners and talk and have a good conversation, because I love the cars. I seriously almost bought a WS-6 instead.

I am really not trying to start anything, I just wanted to defend myself, because the information stated in the original thread was wrong by assumptions. Those assumptions transferred to this forums. I didn't post the video, because why should I? Nothing to be cocky about, I beat a stock GTO. I just wanted the video sent to me, because I wanted to see and hear it, that is all. I had the video well before anyone else, I could have posted it on every forum I am on, which is a lot, but I just wanted it for my personal desire.

Dude you lost. Watch the video again. Seriously are you crazy. When the other car is in front of you that means he won you lost. A ricer fly by does not count. Im sure your car is fast but before you can talk you need to show proof. Saying that your tuner thinks its going to have a x amount of hp and actually doing it is a different story. Saying your going to keep up with a z06 and doing is also different. Come back with some videos.

Hey guys,

I am the GTO guy. lol. I was bored out of my mind when I raced Rob, but I thought it was funny that the honda has something more than $10,000 into the car. I just about LMAO'ed when I heard that. I can't imagine how fast my car would be if I dumped 10 grand into it.

Also, for the record, compuvision02 isn't the one who posted that video. The dude's name that did is Bsaint, and he is a really cocky asshole. He thinks hes all tough shit and hot shit driving his 1995 BMW M3 around with his lame ass straight pipes. They sound so bad.

Anyway since people were asking for mods done to the GTO, here they are:

-Volant Cold Air Intake
-Muffler Delete
-JBA Catless Mids (temporarily, going to put the cats back on. It's too loud).


And I just bought a predator tuner. Didn't have that installed for the video, but it will be shortly. Should add about 10rwhp I am hoping. I don't want to do too much to this car, mainly because the loan isn't paid off and I am most likely going to sell it and get a six speed. I hate automatics now and wish I never got one.

I am really not trying to start anything, I just wanted to defend myself, because the information stated in the original thread was wrong by assumptions. Those assumptions transferred to this forums. I didn't post the video, because why should I? Nothing to be cocky about, I beat a stock GTO. I just wanted the video sent to me, because I wanted to see and hear it, that is all. I had the video well before anyone else, I could have posted it on every forum I am on, which is a lot, but I just wanted it for my personal desire.



Oh, I thought you had posted the video. Its a very cocky vid too. But I guess if you didnt do it then you cant be at fault. A race is a race. I think everyone was under the assumption that you made the vid and put it out.

Hey guys,

I am the GTO guy. lol. I was bored out of my mind when I raced Rob, but I thought it was funny that the honda has something more than $10,000 into the car. I just about LMAO'ed when I heard that. I can't imagine how fast my car would be if I dumped 10 grand into it.

Also, for the record, compuvision02 isn't the one who posted that video. The dude's name that did is Bsaint, and he is a really cocky asshole. He thinks hes all tough shit and hot shit driving his 1995 BMW M3 around with his lame ass straight pipes. They sound so bad.

Anyway since people were asking for mods done to the GTO, here they are:

-Volant Cold Air Intake
-Muffler Delete
-JBA Catless Mids (temporarily, going to put the cats back on. It's too loud).


And I just bought a predator tuner. Didn't have that installed for the video, but it will be shortly. Should add about 10rwhp I am hoping. I don't want to do too much to this car, mainly because the loan isn't paid off and I am most likely going to sell it and get a six speed. I hate automatics now and wish I never got one.


you ever ride in a auto with a 4000+ stall?

dont you guys know a civic with darton sleeves and a turbo will win every time, gosh. man it makes me wonder sometimes how people can really make themselves believe "i can win from a 65 roll" man its not even funny , its just sad

4k stalls are fun. Not the easy on the gas but alot of fun.

That GTO got walked hard (whatever the reason). Time for some mods and some humility as well. :cheers:

Oh well. lol. Who does a 60 roll anyway. They have the nerve to say my shit's slow though. Um yeah, a 13 second car stock is slow. Just 3 grand into it i could probably get low 12s. I think he dumped like 10k into his old hatch to get from 16 to 13.

4k stalls are fun. Not the easy on the gas but alot of fun.

I still get great gas milage lock up in 3rd is at 30mph and lock up in forth at 50mph ;)

you ever ride in a auto with a 4000+ stall?


Thats right! theres nothing wrong with a stalled auto, Stalled autos get down and dirty. :guns:

There is so many diffrent varibles in that race, but lets look at it civic 2500lbs if that+450 fwhp vs 4000 lb gto with 430hp give or take. I like both sides of this but lets be realistic that lil civic would run down 50% of the shit on here at a 60 roll. For all we know that civic might be built for highway bombs kinda like supras. Not taking anything away from the domestic world it would only take a bolt on stalled f-body to destroy that thing from a dig. Diffrent strokes for diffrent folks. There is no way I would go to the great lengths that this guy has to brag that he beat a bolt on gto. As far as domestic vs import meets there is cocky assholes in every group. :engarde:

I would have raced from a stop, except for the traction factor. Give the GTO a set of Mickey Thompson ET Drag Radials and he will run maybe a 12.8 and I will put on a set as well and go easy 11's on a base street tune.
It's all cool but....a GTO with the Drag's with an Auto will not hit a 12.8...never seen it happen but then again....nope unless the TQ managment is taken off at the least. I may be wrong.
This is kinda dumb. Oh well...I love my V8's and I will probably never own a 4cy car unless it's for daily driving or at least a decent car that I like, ????? Caliber's are nice. Haha
It's not gay to race from 60! I've done it! Haha it was gay damnit.

So what a Civic won...not the end of the world. He is traction limited. I have seen plenty of high HP Fbodies do highway runs because of traction issues. Nice kill. Not my sort of thing, but fast is fast.

W

Put a 150 wet shot on GTO for $700.

Repeat.

Josh

he should race the civette lol, that would be on hell of a race.

The video is ghey..

That would be like us taking a twin turbo LS1 and monkey raping some stock Civic and being all "wahha wahhaaaa" about it..

Give me a break..

Oh well. lol. Who does a 60 roll anyway. They have the nerve to say my shit's slow though. Um yeah, a 13 second car stock is slow. Just 3 grand into it i could probably get low 12s. I think he dumped like 10k into his old hatch to get from 16 to 13.
Not even close buddy... back in 96 I spent 6 grand on a 93 dx hatch.... 2,800 on a brand new 96 gsr motor with 5000 miles on it. I actually witnessed the truck rear end a guy in his brand new gsr... and I gave him my number. I was the first to know the wrecking yard that got the totaled car. 500 dollars to have my gsr installed. 2,800 dollars for a drag gen 2 kit installed..... and tuned to make 245whp. For 12,100 dollars my car ran 12.8 and had the track announcer at pomona talk crap about one of the track workers the whole day because I spanked his low 13 sec chevelle!!!

Not even close buddy... back in 96 I spent 6 grand on a 93 dx hatch.... 2,800 on a brand new 96 gsr motor with 5000 miles on it. I actually witnessed the truck rear end a guy in his brand new gsr... and I gave him my number. I was the first to know the wrecking yard that got the totaled car. 500 dollars to have my gsr installed. 2,800 dollars for a drag gen 2 kit installed..... and tuned to make 245whp. For 12,100 dollars my car ran 12.8 and had the track announcer at pomona talk crap about one of the track workers the whole day because I spanked his low 13 sec chevelle!!!
He's talking about STOCK 13 second cars. I spanked a GUTTED GSR

-Launched w/ Traction Contol on :bang:

-Spun hard as hell :bang:

-Missed 3rd :bang:

Killed him by half a car all in one race. :playboy:

Hey compuvision, how about you see what a real car does to a 400whp civic:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/521cd780-eb9b-482c-9368-99140018b67a.htm

Thats me assfucking this cocky douche at my school (when my car was slow). And his turbo isnt as big as a 35r, so he wasnt having your lame ass spool problems like you supposedly were.

Go kick rocks, beeotch, LSX FTMFW.

The video is ghey..

That would be like us taking a twin turbo LS1 and monkey raping some stock Civic and being all "wahha wahhaaaa" about it..

Give me a break..
So in your mind you equate a twin turbo V8 that already pumps out 400 ponys n/a.... to a 4 cylinder that puts out a whooping 180 n/a. A turbo on the 4 cylinder basically levels the playing field with the n/a V8. Now you wanna TT the v8.... leave the 4 banger n/a.... and somehow your mind sees this as apples to apples. If I took some steroids and kicked mike tyson's ass back when he was the mike tyson... it would still be a big deal..... even though I was on roids!!! But if he tooks some steroids became even bigger and stronger than he was... and whipped my ass............. ummmmmm duh!!!! :judge:

Thats what you guys get for having cars that are known to be fast.

Wow.. butter on your toast?

Wow.. butter on your toast?
Sorry I don't get it... is that some kinda alabama saying?!!! Please explain!!!

Yeh, must be some Alabama redneck deal. :)

Have you ever heard of being toasted? Getting toasted? It's akin to being "burned" or "owned?"

Hey compuvision, how about you see what a real car does to a 400whp civic:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/521cd780-eb9b-482c-9368-99140018b67a.htm

Thats me assfucking this cocky douche at my school (when my car was slow). And his turbo isnt as big as a 35r, so he wasnt having your lame ass spool problems like you supposedly were.

Go kick rocks, beeotch, LSX FTMFW.
Sweet ass vid... not my taste in music.... but the creschendo of the music when your car appears on screen was nice. Now to the part thats gonna start crap. 1 of three things happened in this vid for the civic to lose like that. 1. You are making way more than 500..... 2. The civic isn't making anywhere near 400...... or 3. The guy in the civic can't drive. I'm leaning towards 3. just like in the original vid posted on this thread. Have either of them heard of brake boosting. :judge:

Lets do a little bench racing!!! My car beat a C6Z06 when I was only making 450whp.... because my car weighs 500lbs less. Since a civic weighs 500lbs less than my car... it should only need about 400whp to be in the same league. Your car with 500whp should be about the same as a C6Z06....again weight difference.... so therefore that civic should have been right at your door the whole race.

Yeh, must be some Alabama redneck deal. :)

Have you ever heard of being toasted? Getting toasted? It's akin to being "burned" or "owned?"
LOL...... oic..... I swear I wasn't being a smart ass :angel: .... I'm sure if I started using cali slang only people from around L.A. would have any idea what I said. :cheers:

Yeh, it's all good..

Well, what do you put on toast? Butter.. :D

Ala.. Butter for your toast? ;)

Sweet ass vid... not my taste in music.... but the creschendo of the music when your car appears on screen was nice. Now to the part thats gonna start crap. 1 of three things happened in this vid for the civic to lose like that. 1. You are making way more than 500..... 2. The civic isn't making anywhere near 400...... or 3. The guy in the civic can't drive. I'm leaning towards 3. just like in the original vid posted on this thread. Have either of them heard of brake boosting. :judge:

Lets do a little bench racing!!! My car beat a C6Z06 when I was only making 450whp.... because my car weighs 500lbs less. Since a civic weighs 500lbs less than my car... it should only need about 400whp to be in the same league. Your car with 500whp should be about the same as a C6Z06....again weight difference.... so therefore that civic should have been right at your door the whole race.


1. The civic brake boosted the second race.

2. My car made 530whp through a th400/12 bolt/gears/ steel driveshaft/etc. Thats a big difference than 400whp (i think his exact was 417) through a 5 speed.

3. The guy is a pretty good driver, not the best, but not at all bad. It is hard to defend that though, seeing as he missed third the first race haha.

4. If he hadnt missed third the first race, it would have been alot closer. But if you watch the second race, he actually stayed with me better off the hit even with me spraying, being as he brake boosted.


My car trapped 130mph on a way to a 10.1 on that setup (1.42 60). At the time it weighed 3200 without me in it. Give or take the same as a C6Z. Both of our cars had a 200+ lb. passenger.

1. The civic brake boosted the second race.

2. My car made 530whp through a th400/12 bolt/gears/ steel driveshaft/etc. Thats a big difference than 400whp (i think his exact was 417) through a 5 speed.

3. The guy is a pretty good driver, not the best, but not at all bad. It is hard to defend that though, seeing as he missed third the first race haha.

4. If he hadnt missed third the first race, it would have been alot closer. But if you watch the second race, he actually stayed with me better off the hit even with me spraying, being as he brake boosted.


My car trapped 130mph on a way to a 10.1 on that setup (1.42 60). At the time it weighed 3200 without me in it. Give or take the same as a C6Z. Both of our cars had a 200+ lb. passenger.

Not gonna doubt your word... but I don't see any light coming from his brakes..... and how in the hell did you get your car down to 3200lbs lol good job!!! :thumb: 10.1 is scootin' :thumb: The tribute at the end was cool!!! Are you from VA? Wanna see something cool..... Watch this vid. If you guys left at the exact same time... you would cross the line at about the same time.... but you would have about 5-7cls on him at mid track. I think he cut a 1.78 60ft!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EdooP7tw_M

Not gonna doubt your word... but I don't see any light coming from his brakes..... ]


You cant see the back of his car?


anyway, ive been hawked bad before. I ran a 1300whp supra owned by a friend of mine at the track. I must have had 4-5 cars at the 1/8 mile, but ill be damned if that bitch didnt come by me like i was standing still about a hundred feet before the quarter!

He went a 9.6 or so with a six speed, with like a 1.8 60 haha. Trapped in the low 150's. It was about that time i decided I wanted a turbo myself ;)

It just drives you crazy! I`ve had many a import try and mess with my WS6. Some arn`t even worth wasting the gas on. But one that runs in the 10`s would be fun to play with! I haven`t met any yet in my area! All it takes is money! Good video Ven! I don`t think people give LS1`s much props because of our weight diff. It kills me when someone says you weigh more and should be slower!lol!!

I ran some kid in Atlanta in an Integra..

I was gettin' on the interstate and he had been riding me pretty tight all the way down the on ramp...

He finally pulled up next to me.. I heard the blow off valve, he had a roll cage and all that.. So I thought this guy would be worth my gas.. I actually thought he was gonna get me.. I am currently a full-bolt on car..

Well.. we run from a roll a couple times, 45mphish and I destroyed him every time.. He must have had an awfully small turbo..

I ran some kid in Atlanta in an Integra..

I was gettin' on the interstate and he had been riding me pretty tight all the way down the on ramp...

He finally pulled up next to me.. I heard the blow off valve, he had a roll cage and all that.. So I thought this guy would be worth my gas.. I actually thought he was gonna get me.. I am currently a full-bolt on car..

Well.. we run from a roll a couple times, 45mphish and I destroyed him every time.. He must have had an awfully small turbo..
Nah... these idiots put in 300 dollar bolt in roll cages and 20 dollar turbo sound effects... so they can look and sound fast. I never have... and never will understand the point of looking faster than you really are!!! Its like a punk ass whimp putting a muscle suit under his clothes... hoping that everybody is afraid to f-ck with him!!! :judge: Then when someone calls your bluff... you just look even more stupid!!!!1

Yeh.. His car was a joke.. I murdered him..

Yeh.. His car was a joke.. I murdered him..
See I come from the opposite school of thought. I'd rather look like the little wimp.... then rip my shirt open to display the giant S underneath!!!!!! LMFAO You should look at the pic of my car in my sig.

Yeh.. I'm a fan of the sleeper look..

That is exactly what I have tried to attain with my TA.. It's a bolt on only car right now, but I just picked up a heads/cam swap setup.. :)

It was a full bolt on Auto Goat... I would HOPE you would beat him in your 2.0 liter turbo shell....

Sweet ass vid... not my taste in music.... but the creschendo of the music when your car appears on screen was nice. Now to the part thats gonna start crap. 1 of three things happened in this vid for the civic to lose like that. 1. You are making way more than 500..... 2. The civic isn't making anywhere near 400...... or 3. The guy in the civic can't drive. I'm leaning towards 3. just like in the original vid posted on this thread. Have either of them heard of brake boosting. :judge:

Lets do a little bench racing!!! My car beat a C6Z06 when I was only making 450whp.... because my car weighs 500lbs less. Since a civic weighs 500lbs less than my car... it should only need about 400whp to be in the same league. Your car with 500whp should be about the same as a C6Z06....again weight difference.... so therefore that civic should have been right at your door the whole race.

Its called power under the curve... just cause a car lays down 500hp dose not mean shit cause that's peak hp.. what really maters is how much power your making under the curve..

Your car has useless power period. why would anyone race a car that makes under 150hp untill atleast 5k+rpm. Ill sit back in my 550hp full weight stalled auto with a 4.10 gear all day lets see how close you come to CATCHING up to me after the 1/4 mile..

MAINLY I think your car is a total piece of shit and a waste of time effort money and for what???? so you can run down stock gtos and still not beat them.

i just dont understand why you would do that to a civic i can understand mabey a lil work done and a correct sized turbo but come on 60mph roll!!!!! lol.

civic does not = sports car consider the name honda gave it.


YOU SIR ARE ON THE EDGE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH STOCK F-BODIES AND GOATS.

consider this for a second a civic producing about 400hp is producing the same amount of horsepower as a stock ls2 gto. But a civic engine is 1/3 the size of the gtos ls2 which meens to maintain the same amount of power the civic motor has to work 3 times as hard at the edge of its potential, while the ls2 is not even realy trying and im not even going to start talking about tq.

Your car has useless power period. why would anyone race a car that makes under 150hp untill atleast 5k+rpm.
Because on a drag strip you don't see under 5k rpm? Hell, most people in the Honda world are launching at 6k+

MAINLY I think your car is a total piece of shit and a waste of time effort money and for what???? so you can run down stock gtos and still not beat them.
I know of at least 1 gt35r/2.0L car that went low 10's and I think that was at 2500 pound race weight. I also know of numerous others that are in the 10's. Keep talking, your ignorance is showing.

i just dont understand why you would do that to a civic i can understand mabey a lil work done and a correct sized turbo but come on 60mph roll!!!!! lol.
lol.

civic does not = sports car consider the name honda gave it.
Hate to break it to you but an f-body doesn't fit the definition of sports car either.

YOU SIR ARE ON THE EDGE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH STOCK F-BODIES AND GOATS.
Um... did you see the video?

Oh, and you ask why someone would do all that work to a Honda? Because you can find cocky people that believe stuff like this:
Ill sit back in my 550hp full weight stalled auto with a 4.10 gear all day lets see how close you come to CATCHING up to me after the 1/4 mile..
and then promptly take their money because they have no clue.

Hate to break it to you but an f-body doesn't fit the definition of sports car either.

You're right.. an F-Body is a muscle car..
A civic is a sports car..

I have nothing against Civics.. I almost bought a hatch before I bought my Integra..

You're right.. an F-Body is a muscle car..
A civic is a sports car..

I have nothing against Civics.. I almost bought a hatch before I bought my Integra..

Civic is an economy car haha. I never meant to imply that it was a sports car.

Sports cars don't belong on a drag strip so I really don't know what his point was.

Well that works too.. :)

Not all F-bodies belong on a drag strip.. So mine is a sports car.. :)

Because on a drag strip you don't see under 5k rpm? Hell, most people in the Honda world are launching at 6k+


I know of at least 1 gt35r/2.0L car that went low 10's and I think that was at 2500 pound race weight. I also know of numerous others that are in the 10's. Keep talking, your ignorance is showing.


lol.


Hate to break it to you but an f-body doesn't fit the definition of sports car either.


Um... did you see the video?

Oh, and you ask why someone would do all that work to a Honda? Because you can find cocky people that believe stuff like this:

and then promptly take their money because they have no clue.


my car will go mid 10s... its gone 7.0 at a 101 in the 1/8th spining a hi 1.7 60...

It speaks for itself.


Honda=econoshit

f-body=sports/muscle car/drag car?

my car can go around a road course quite well being a stalled auto....Not saying a m6 wouldnt do better tho....

What can you do in that honda besides hi roll races? on the highway?

What can you do in that honda besides hi roll races? on the highway?

I think there are quite a few Honda's out there that would surprise the crap out of you on a road course..

A very good friend of mine used to clean up with a Prelude...

Your car has useless power period. why would anyone race a car that makes under 150hp untill atleast 5k+rpm. Ill sit back in my 550hp full weight stalled auto with a 4.10 gear all day lets see how close you come to CATCHING up to me after the 1/4 mile..

MAINLY I think your car is a total piece of shit and a waste of time effort money and for what???? so you can run down stock gtos and still not beat them.

i just dont understand why you would do that to a civic i can understand mabey a lil work done and a correct sized turbo but come on 60mph roll!!!!! lol.

civic does not = sports car consider the name honda gave it.


YOU SIR ARE ON THE EDGE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH STOCK F-BODIES AND GOATS.

You should do some research... 400whp isn't even scratching the surface of his motors potential. Just a turbo and fuel system upgrade and his car will be capable of over 1000whp!!! There are a couple making 1200whp and running 7's. One guy even decided to build a nitromethane burning acura integra funny car that ran mid 5's at over 250mph!!! 4000hp out of a honda 4 banger. Top fuel cars only make 6000 out of 8!!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1874188216

http://images.turbomagazine.com/tech/0202tur_01z+acura_integra_funny_car+left_front_vie w.jpg

I think there are quite a few Honda's out there that would surprise the crap out of you on a road course..

A very good friend of mine used to clean up with a Prelude...


Im not saying that a well built properly sized turboed civic with the right mods that doesent lag and make 80hp under the curve and peaks 500hp lol im shure that would be fun around a road course....


Theres no replacement for displacement.

You should do some research... 400whp isn't even scratching the surface of his motors potential. Just a turbo and fuel system upgrade and his car will be capable of over 1000whp!!! There are a couple making 1200whp and running 7's. One guy even decided to build a nitromethane burning acura integra funny car that ran mid 5's at over 250mph!!! 4000hp out of a honda 4 banger. Top fuel cars only make 6000 out of 8!!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1874188216

http://images.turbomagazine.com/tech/0202tur_01z+acura_integra_funny_car+left_front_vie w.jpg



That car looks stupid...And theres allot of restrictions for the nhra top fuel engines that limit what can and cannot be used compared to your no rules integra.


WERE talking about street drivin cars here... not 7 second sheled hondas. oh and top fuel race cars make well over 6000 hp more closer to 9000.

my car will go mid 10s... its gone 7.0 at a 101 in the 1/8th spining a hi 1.7 60...

More like high 10's/low 11's.

What can you do in that honda besides hi roll races? on the highway?

www.nhrasportcompact.com
http://www.hondachallenge.com/

Eggum running a 7.90:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpJwxFZCY78 -that car consistently 60's around 1.29
These 2 videos are of the Sport FWD class which is street legal cars with interior, insurance, and plates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV_FpcpVBt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OmOtvblWCQ
Honda Challenge in car video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyy-PENseTE

More like high 10's/low 11's.

I

www.nhrasportcompact.com
http://www.hondachallenge.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpJwxFZCY78 -that car consistently 60's around 1.29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV_FpcpVBt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OmOtvblWCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyy-PENseTE


I ran those times when i was still learning the new set up and i had my tq converter bolts lose when i made that pass... It should run something like a 1.4 60 6.5s 6.8s at around 101-103 its defently capable of runing a vary low 10 just not on these rims/tires.

You should do some research... 400whp isn't even scratching the surface of his motors potential. Just a turbo and fuel system upgrade and his car will be capable of over 1000whp!!! There are a couple making 1200whp and running 7's. One guy even decided to build a nitromethane burning acura integra funny car that ran mid 5's at over 250mph!!! 4000hp out of a honda 4 banger. Top fuel cars only make 6000 out of 8!!!

Wow.. just wow.

There have only been 2 Honda's to go 7 seconds or quicker. Steph Eggum (posted above) and Steph Papadakis in a Pro RWD car.

That funny car is something like a 4.0L and the motor has no resemblance to a Honda block.

The Sport FWD cars posted above are making around 850whp. I can't think of many Honda's making 1,000whp so it's far from common and definitely not easy as a fuel/turbo upgrade.

You should do some research... 400whp isn't even scratching the surface of his motors potential. Just a turbo and fuel system upgrade and his car will be capable of over 1000whp!!! There are a couple making 1200whp and running 7's. One guy even decided to build a nitromethane burning acura integra funny car that ran mid 5's at over 250mph!!! 4000hp out of a honda 4 banger. Top fuel cars only make 6000 out of 8!!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1874188216

http://images.turbomagazine.com/tech/0202tur_01z+acura_integra_funny_car+left_front_vie w.jpg


Only 6000hp lol.that is estimated there is not even a dyno that can handle that...

They could make more but it would be usless they already have to slip a clutch all the way down the track just to keep traction.

That car looks stupid...And theres allot of restrictions for the nhra top fuel engines that limit what can and cannot be used compared to your no rules integra.


WERE talking about street drivin cars here... not 7 second sheled hondas. oh and top fuel race cars make well over 6000 hp more closer to 9000.
I knew you would back pedal and come up with some excuse for you closedmindedness!!! Oh I'm sorry... you wanted to see a full bodied street car!!! Here you go!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EdooP7tw_M

BTW Like I said... you need to do some research before you post. Norwood racing used the same restrictions including 10 percent nitro. Also thats some good shit you are smoking :smokin2: Top fuel cars make between 6 and 7000hp depending on what they think the track will hold and how much clutch the crew chief wants to give it. I'm not trying to start a war... just trying to get you guys to stop spreading missinformation.... and stop being so closedminded!!!

Only 6000hp lol.that is estimated there is not even a dyno that can handle that...

They could make more but it would be usless they already have to slip a clutch all the way down the track just to keep traction.
Its not estimated... there's a specific formula to finding the numbers. it deals in fuel consumption. I'll look it up for you.

Wow.. just wow.

There have only been 2 Honda's to go 7 seconds or quicker. Steph Eggum (posted above) and Steph Papadakis in a Pro RWD car.

That funny car is something like a 4.0L and the motor has no resemblance to a Honda block.

The Sport FWD cars posted above are making around 850whp. I can't think of many Honda's making 1,000whp so it's far from common and definitely not easy as a fuel/turbo upgrade.
You are right... it looks nothing like a honda block LOL... but he didn't know that!!!!! Yes it is that easy to make the power. Reliability is a different story. My 750whp set up that I have now will make 900-1000 simply with a bigger turbo. I already have everything else taken care of... I'm just keeping the small turbo for now to have a "street car"!!! If you call a custom built gt35r small!!! LOL

You should do some research... One guy even decided to build a nitromethane burning acura integra funny car that ran mid 5's at over 250mph!!! 4000hp out of a honda 4 banger. Top fuel cars only make 6000 out of 8!!!
1) This engine was expected to make 4000hp by the builder. There's no telling what it will actually do. The 5's part is another guestimation on his part. None of what you said is a reality.

2) Even if it were true, it wouldn't matter. The car has nothing in common with a Honda. The builder even said in the new story about it that the ONLY Honda part on the entire vehicle was the Integra badge they slapped on the back of it.

3) The car is using a lot of things that are entirely illegal for top fuel dragsters (namely, turbos and EFI). So, your comparison of what this engine might put out and what top fuel V8s put out is totally bogus.


Oh, and for the record... I knew when I saw the story on that car that I would eventually bump into some dipshit rice-rocket-driving douche who would bring this up and parade it around because they thought it would somehow legitimize their grocery-getting frankenstein vehicle which has no business in the performance automotive world.

their grocery-getting frankenstein vehicle which has no business in the performance automotive world.

His car is faster than yours though...

:lurk:

His car is faster than yours though...

:lurk:
And this changes what I said how, exactly?

his car also has twice as much invested in it than Gauge's car. its a shame when you people (ricers) have to dump thousands into these economey cars just to be on par with our stock cars. and to think this actuality hasent turned you away from the, taking a slow car and making it average scene. wake up to V8 domestics, take a fast car and make it faster.


EDIT: i see you are talking about the franken-fuck looking POS that someone wasted their time and money in to try to make it seem that ricers are end all. read my response as it were the civic in the GTO video.

His car is faster than yours though...

:lurk:
I can modify a bicycle to be faster in a strait line than both(I didn't say how much $$$ it would take, or if it would even be a bicycle anymore, but that doesn't matter).... Does that make it a performance car?

EDIT: I have nothing against his integra, it has my respect, and I love what he's done with it. But your argument is pointless.

Civic + 5k in mods = stock LS1 performance
LS1 car + 5k in mods = mid 11's.

Yeh, but ladies love the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp of a fart can.. ;)

blaaaaaaaaaatttt, blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, blaaaat, pop.......ohhh yeah......

his car also has twice as much invested in it than Gauge's car. its a shame when you people (ricers) have to dump thousands into these economey cars just to be on par with our stock cars. and to think this actuality hasent turned you away from the, taking a slow car and making it average scene. wake up to V8 domestics, take a fast car and make it faster.

I seriously don't know where you people get this stuff. Honda parts are cheap and even if I did "dump thousands" into my car it'd still of cost me less than yours while being more reliable and having a nicer interior. *gasp* Yeah, i went there.

I do like how you think just because i'm sticking up for Honda's I have no interest in domestics though. You don't have to pick one side of the fence and i've grown up building/racing small block mopar stuff.

Civic + 5k in mods = stock LS1 performance
LS1 car + 5k in mods = mid 11's.

1. Point me to the $3,000 ls1 cars.
2. A Civic with 5k put in the right places (IE not putting a B18C5 in it or something stupid) could run mid 11's if not quicker.

1) This engine was expected to make 4000hp by the builder. There's no telling what it will actually do. The 5's part is another guestimation on his part. None of what you said is a reality.

2) Even if it were true, it wouldn't matter. The car has nothing in common with a Honda. The builder even said in the new story about it that the ONLY Honda part on the entire vehicle was the Integra badge they slapped on the back of it.

3) The car is using a lot of things that are entirely illegal for top fuel dragsters (namely, turbos and EFI). So, your comparison of what this engine might put out and what top fuel V8s put out is totally bogus.


Oh, and for the record... I knew when I saw the story on that car that I would eventually bump into some dipshit rice-rocket-driving douche who would bring this up and parade it around because they thought it would somehow legitimize their grocery-getting frankenstein vehicle which has no business in the performance automotive world. Great choice of words. That's hilarious...... ahhh the joys of the internet. Everyone is sooo badass!!! I had a guy say something similar to me on another forum. He wasn't aware that I lived in the same town he does, Some friends of mine knew who and where he was.... so I walked up to him... introduced myself.... and very politely gave him the opportunity to say it to my face. Of course seeing me in person he backed down.

I swear if he did say it... I had no plans on doing anything to him!!! I just would've had more respect for him if he had the balls to say what he said on the net with me standing inches from him!!! Sometimes I wish I hadn't promised my wife I would never fight anymore.... but she's right... guys are bitch-made nowadays and can't take an asswhippin'... my kids need me around... not to prove how badass I am. I just wish I could put some people in their place sometimes.

I seriously don't know where you people get this stuff. Honda parts are cheap and even if I did "dump thousands" into my car it'd still of cost me less than yours while being more reliable and having a nicer interior. *gasp* Yeah, i went there.
im not going to defend the interior remark, seeing as how mine is falling apart by the day, but as far as being more reliable and cost less, :bs: i DD my car and still manage around 30mpg on the highway and have 1300 dollars in it. dont even start with cost of car, because there are plenty of other cars out there that i can put just as little money in it and still be faster than an equally modded civic. put a full exhaust, intake, TB and air lid or CAI as you ricers would say, on a stock civic and come talk to me. or how bout this, i put a turbo system on my car and come find you. take your pick. bigger is and will always be better given equal mods. you call me out with a N/A civic that runs 12.86 with no more than 1300 in mods and ill start respecting them. but i cant respect a car that wont move unless its being forced to.

I do like how you think just because i'm sticking up for Honda's I have no interest in domestics though. You don't have to pick one side of the fence and i've grown up building/racing small block mopar stuff.

congrats, why did you go to the slow side of the fence? get tired of going fast? or did you get tired of not having to mortgage your house to run with us?



1. Point me to the $3,000 ls1 cars.
2. A Civic with 5k put in the right places (IE not putting a B18C5 in it or something stupid) could run mid 11's if not quicker.

the 3k ls1's are out there. they may not be nice, but as long as they run it can be built. and unless your stealing parts or have someone giving you the hookup, 5k in a civic will barely get you the turbo system.

all you pro import/tuner guys are arguing a moot point, especially here.

1. imports will never be faster, more practical or more respected given equal mods and money.
2. yes, they can be made faster than our cars, but not for the same money. good luck getting a stock civic to run 12.9
3. there is no point in trying to make a slow car fast. civics are economey cars and not ment to be raced. if they were, they would be fast from the factory.

get over it, tuners will never be on the same level with muscle cars. they cant be when it takes mods to make them as fast as stock muscle cars.

how can your car be more cost effective when you have to mod it to get it to where my car is stock? congrats, you bought your civic for 3000, and put 2500 in the turbo setup. now you have a civic that is as fast as a stock LS1 car, and you have just as much money in it.

the 3k ls1's are out there. they may not be nice, but as long as they run it can be built. and unless your stealing parts or have someone giving you the hookup, 5k in a civic will barely get you the turbo system.
I keep telling you guys to do research. For 7 grand I can have a 12 sec civic with buying the car!!! Turbo kit $2800 installed... gsr motor $3500 installed... $500 for a no motor 92-95 civic.

I keep telling you guys to do research. For 7 grand I can have a 12 sec civic with buying the car!!! Turbo kit $2800 installed... gsr motor $3500 installed... $500 for a no motor 92-95 civic.
nice, now your right on par with a stock LS1 f-body. dollar for dollar. but you had to mod your civic to get it there. thats why i dont respect them. that is pointless, when you can buy a stock car that will run 12's.

lets do this,

i buy a 7000 dollar M6 LS1.
i take the A/C off, i gut the interior, lose the spare tire, lose all the crash padding, and now i have a mid 12 second car for about 5500 bucks. you cant buy a stock civic and make it run 12's even tho, your car weighs 2500 lbs stock. now my car weighs 2800 lbs and runs circles around your civic on the drag strip and i havent even changed the oil yet.

nice, now your right on par with a stock LS1 f-body. dollar for dollar. but you had to mod your civic to get it there. thats why i dont respect them. that is pointless, when you can buy a stock car that will run 12's.
Bull crap.... the record is high 12's with a great driver.... most people run high 13's low 14's!!! Lets keep it real. Every gsr turbo civic I have ever seen runs 12's. I understand where you are coming from. I just don't see how you see a car that costs twice as much and has twice the cylinders as apples to apple. You put me against mike tyson... I need some serious steroids!!!!

I keep telling you guys to do research. For 7 grand I can have a 12 sec civic with buying the car!!! Turbo kit $2800 installed... gsr motor $3500 installed... $500 for a no motor 92-95 civic.

It's a lost cause dude, no matter what you'll never be as cool as an ls1 apparently.

For the record, there was a recent discussion in the drag forum on honda-tech on if a 9 second car could be built for 10k (honda of course) and there were more than a couple shops that said they could do it. This of course is taking into account free labor but Honda stuff isn't expensive if you know what you're buying.

Bull crap.... the record is high 12's with a great driver.... most people run high 13's low 14's!!! Lets keep it real. Every gsr turbo civic I have ever seen runs 12's. I understand where you are coming from. I just don't see how you see a car that costs twice as much and has twice the cylinders as apples to apple. You put me against mike tyson... I need some serious steroids!!!!
bingo, no one ever said it was apples to apples. you made my point right there, LS1's have twice the cylnders, twice the power for twice the money. which im happy with. when i start comparing apples to apples is when you get up to LS1 status with your GSR civic or w/e. now you have a turbo, let me turbo my car and see what it does to your car.

honestly, i dont even know how this came about. but youre arguing that forcefed, modded imports are king of all because they beat stock LS1's. thats not a selling point in my book.

It's a lost cause dude, no matter what you'll never be as cool as an ls1 apparently.

For the record, there was a recent discussion in the drag forum on honda-tech on if a 9 second car could be built for 10k (honda of course) and there were more than a couple shops that said they could do it. This of course is taking into account free labor but Honda stuff isn't expensive if you know what you're buying.
you bring this up as if it couldnt be done with an LSX platform.

lets do this,

i buy a 7000 dollar M6 LS1.
i take the A/C off, i gut the interior, lose the spare tire, lose all the crash padding, and now i have a mid 12 second car for about 5500 bucks. you cant buy a stock civic and make it run 12's even tho, your car weighs 2500 lbs stock. now my car weighs 2800 lbs and runs circles around your civic on the drag strip and i havent even changed the oil yet.

"YOU MODDED IT THOUGH! IT DOESN'T COUNT!" -bww3588

Oh, and did you find $1500 in the trunk or something? See bolded parts.

get over it, tuners will never be on the same level with muscle cars. they cant be when it takes mods to make them as fast as stock muscle cars.

It's a shame how closed minded people like you are because you don't realize how similar everything is. There are a lot of great minds in the import scene and a lot of info out there that could be applied to your car but your superiority complex won't let you even consider reading it. Pathetic.

They're just engines, they all have pistons that go up and down. I see no reason that just because someone has more cylinders it makes their car any different. Fast is fast.

my car went 12.0 on stock internals with mac mids a 3500 stall shift kit and a 4.10 rear gear with a lid....and tune also had hotchkis lcas lca relocations hotchkis panhard with a 100lbs of subs and amps in the back. that was along time ago tho i was on nitto drag radials dead hooking a 1.5xx 60s...

"YOU MODDED IT THOUGH! IT DOESN'T COUNT!" -bww3588

Oh, and did you find $1500 in the trunk or something? See bolded parts. no, i didnt find 1500 in the trunk. what did you think i was going to keep all the shit i took off of it? silly ricer...



It's a shame how closed minded people like you are because you don't realize how similar everything is. There are a lot of great minds in the import scene and a lot of info out there that could be applied to your car but your superiority complex won't let you even consider reading it. Pathetic.
yes, im closed minded. your right, because i dont see the point of modding somthing that isint ment to be fast. its like modding a moped, theres no point.

They're just engines, they all have pistons that go up and down. I see no reason that just because someone has more cylinders it makes their car any different. Fast is fast.it makes it pointless to mod. if your going to mod something, mod somthing that is made to be fast. mod a supra, mod a WRX, mod an EVO, shit just a lancer period would make more sense than modding a civic. civic SI i can see. w/e, but somthing that was slow and never made to go over 85 MPH from the get go is stupid.

it makes it pointless to mod. if your going to mod something, mod somthing that is made to be fast. mod a supra, mod a WRX, mod an EVO, shit just a lancer period would make more sense than modding a civic. civic SI i can see. w/e, but somthing that was slow and never made to go over 85 MPH from the get go is stupid.

...there is almost no difference between an Si and base Civic.

and an Evo needs everything that a Civic needs to be fast.

They're just engines, they all have pistons that go up and down. I see no reason that just because someone has more cylinders it makes their car any different. Fast is fast.

But you only have half of an engine.

Great choice of words. That's hilarious...... ahhh the joys of the internet. Everyone is sooo badass!!! I had a guy say something similar to me on another forum. He wasn't aware that I lived in the same town he does, Some friends of mine knew who and where he was.... so I walked up to him... introduced myself.... and very politely gave him the opportunity to say it to my face. Of course seeing me in person he backed down.

I swear if he did say it... I had no plans on doing anything to him!!! I just would've had more respect for him if he had the balls to say what he said on the net with me standing inches from him!!! Sometimes I wish I hadn't promised my wife I would never fight anymore.... but she's right... guys are bitch-made nowadays and can't take an asswhippin'... my kids need me around... not to prove how badass I am. I just wish I could put some people in their place sometimes.
Yadda yadda...

I see you used this wonderful story to side-step the rest of my post.

I'm pretty hardcore..

You should do some research... 400whp isn't even scratching the surface of his motors potential. Just a turbo and fuel system upgrade and his car will be capable of over 1000whp!!! There are a couple making 1200whp and running 7's. One guy even decided to build a nitromethane burning acura integra funny car that ran mid 5's at over 250mph!!! 4000hp out of a honda 4 banger. Top fuel cars only make 6000 out of 8!!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1874188216

http://images.turbomagazine.com/tech/0202tur_01z+acura_integra_funny_car+left_front_vie w.jpg
:gtfo:

...there is almost no difference between an Si and base Civic.

and an Evo needs everything that a Civic needs to be fast.
yep, either 4 more cylinders or a turbo.

Ok my thoughts, who gives a shit, a kid with a civic beat a kid with a GTO. Congrats. Big freakin deal, just another race that got all forum on us, into a frick tard defending his civic. Your car is quick, you are in an LS1/GM Forum. We like to hear/see the race stories, other than that, I (most of us, WE) dont give a shit about anything else. Ok done. PS. Ill kick the shit out of the civic in the vette,...........I just wanted to bench race, never done it before. Felt good. :barf:

You should do some research... 400whp isn't even scratching the surface of his motors potential. Just a turbo and fuel system upgrade and his car will be capable of over 1000whp!!! There are a couple making 1200whp and running 7's. One guy even decided to build a nitromethane burning acura integra funny car that ran mid 5's at over 250mph!!! 4000hp out of a honda 4 banger. Top fuel cars only make 6000 out of 8!!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1874188216

http://images.turbomagazine.com/tech/0202tur_01z+acura_integra_funny_car+left_front_vie w.jpg


actually output on a 526" 85% nitro car is around 8,000 horsepower. I know.

Anyways, it is very impressive what you can do with a four cylinder. Quite odd that with 4 more cylinders, it doubles the output.... HRMMMMM what have we stumbled upon here.


F' the Forced induction bull shit. Move into a real builders sport and construct something Naturally aspirated. The cobra in my sig creates right over 905 hp at 399 cubic inches. It turns right at 9700 rpm and runs consistent 8.70's @ 154 mph on 28" x 10.5's....

Look at NHRA Pro Stock. 500" - 1,490 hp, 11,000 rpm's and back dooring tracks at over 210 mph. :D

Yadda yadda...

I see you used this wonderful story to side-step the rest of my post.
Oh I'm sorry.... you may have made the most eloquent and correct post in the history of ls1tech.... and all I saw was dipshit rice-rocket driving douche.

actually output on a 526" 85% nitro car is around 8,000 horsepower. I know.

Anyways, it is very impressive what you can do with a four cylinder. Quite odd that with 4 more cylinders, it doubles the output.... HRMMMMM what have we stumbled upon here.


F' the Forced induction bull shit. Move into a real builders sport and construct something Naturally aspirated. The cobra in my sig creates right over 905 hp at 399 cubic inches. It turns right at 9700 rpm and runs consistent 8.70's @ 154 mph on 28" x 10.5's....

Look at NHRA Pro Stock. 500" - 1,490 hp, 11,000 rpm's and back dooring tracks at over 210 mph. :D
I know... a lot of gearheads hate F/I..... A friend of mine keeps taking his C6 Z06 back to the race shop for bolt ons because everytime he makes a few more to the wheels I just turn up the wick and still spank him. He's a pro race car driver... I won't say his name... but at the mere suggestion of him TT his Z06 and laying the smackdown on me... he gave me this look of indignation like I had just spoken blasphemy. He's now making 575whp all motor but I'll still spank him. I'm sure when I beat him this time he's gonna yank that bitch apart and go all out with it.... mil this and stroke that!!! LOL

Listen up you little son of a bitch, making comments like you have in this thread is why everyone who hates ricers, hates ricers. Most of the people on this website will give respect when respect is due. I for one give respect to any guy who takes a stock car, regardless of the vehicle and platform, and modifies it to any level of performance beyond factory specs. For you to come on here and say you owned an F-body and don't respect it is insulting and ignorant on your part. You don't respect the LSx platform because you built your block and added a turbo to beat what sounded like a bone stock GTO with a $35 cutout... from 60mph? Congratulations fuckstick, you're an idiot. You raced him from 60mph which puts you at a major advantage seeing as how you put a bigger than needed turbo on your motor. Of course you are gonna pull harder on the top end. "Hey everybody, under optimum conditions, I beat a stock GTO in my civic with a built motor and a power adder." You're a joke. Let's flip the script for a second and get a race of a turbo GTO running a stock Civic. "Hey everybody, I put oceans on a stock Civic in my GTO that has three times the displacement and a power adder." No one could give two shits less because they expect that outcome. And your car is doodoo butter until 5000 rpm. You make what, maybe 150hp until then? Must be a really fun car to drive in town. Your butt must hurt from getting assraped all over the street from light to light.

The difference between you and me is that I compare apples to apples. I wouldn’t dare put my car next to a head/cam F-body with an auto, big stall and sticky tires over a short distance, even if I do have twice the hp he does. No comparison because the cars are set-up differently. And it would be a joke for him to race me on the highway from a 60roll.

In conclusion, you're an idiot and I would LOVE the opportunity to race you in my car, which is built to the same degree as yours, because I would fucking DESTROY you from any speed under any conditions you asked for. We can race from 100 to 180mph if it gives you false hope that you might win. My car is set-up to rip ass on the highway but still punks out little shits like you at stoplights. You need to be humbled. When do you race that ZO6?




I AGREE 100%
thank you SStolen

4k stalls are fun. Not the easy on the gas but alot of fun.

Yes..yes they are :) I love my 4400

Oh I'm sorry.... you may have made the most eloquent and correct post in the history of ls1tech.... and all I saw was dipshit rice-rocket driving douche.
*shrug* I call it like I see it. You'll find that I defend import guys a lot on here (even though I don't like imports at all). Typically, they're the ones that are respectful, realistic, and not trying to show their dominance over "dumbestics". You aren't one of those people. You're one of the people that give imports their bad name. Thus, dipshit rice-rocket-driving douche.

Plus, if I hadn't put that in there, you wouldn't have had any other way to get around the rest of the points in my post... for which you would have had no intelligent response. ;)

oh man.... +1 on what sstolen said...

Yeh.. Another +1 for SStolen.. He pretty much summed it up..

I mean, I drive a freakin' Integra and a Trans Am.. I have nothing against import guys..

Go to your video thread on YouTube.. Go find an LSx car that is equally modded to yours, race him and then post that video.. :)

You should do some research... 400whp isn't even scratching the surface of his motors potential. Just a turbo and fuel system upgrade and his car will be capable of over 1000whp!!! There are a couple making 1200whp and running 7's. One guy even decided to build a nitromethane burning acura integra funny car that ran mid 5's at over 250mph!!! 4000hp out of a honda 4 banger. Top fuel cars only make 6000 out of 8!!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1874188216

http://images.turbomagazine.com/tech/0202tur_01z+acura_integra_funny_car+left_front_vie w.jpg

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but you have no clue what you are talking about. That nitro car is based on a top fuel motor cut in half. It is essentially a hemi. It is in no way a honda motor, or based on a honda motor.

You are so one sided towards Honda it isn't even funny. There is no magic. The rules of physics still apply to a Honda.

Josh

Well I thought this thread had run its course.

Now I'm sure of it.