Automotive News, Media & Press - Toyota knows Chevy Trucks are better

Spotted at the Texas State Fair today:

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/OctaneZ28/ToyotaRacingChevyA.jpg

Toyota Racing trailer....
....being pulled by a CHEVY SILVERADO :D


Toyota: We're Here to Race ....but we can't pull our own racing trailers. :lol:



LOL @ Toyota :rotflmao:

lol!!!

haha, I can't wait to see what the toyota fanboys say...

I own a chevy and a gmc, but I would think the reason is toyota doesnt make a one ton, or even a three quarter ton do they? Except for like a delivery truck? hahahh I still think its funny.

Lol!!!

That has GOT TO BE one of the FUNNIEST things I've EVER seen!!
:rotflmao: (Especially after all of their "tough guy", arrogant/smug/condescending Tejas drawled spokesman ads claiming the TOY's supposedly under-rated, but over-achieving towing capacity.)

Let's hear all of the :bs: from you TOYboyz/defenders now.

I wish someone would show this pic to their #1 spokesman/booster, "Mikey" W. on "Inside Nextel Cup", just to see his reaction, and stumbling.

Awesome! I love it because I hate Toyota!

doesent suprise me!

good find, thats awesome.... if you were part of that team, wouldn't you be embarrassed to pull that trailer with that truck? lol

Is there a bigger picture of that?? because I NEED that as my wallpaper

There was also a story out about when they set up one of their commercials every worker there drove a Ford truck. There was a picture of that also.
Funny stuff.

Keep it at the top for the Import Boyz

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/05/ford-trucks-show-up-in-tundra-commercial/

hahaha! thats great. nice find. Nice job Toyota!

I do have a LARGE hi-res file if anyone is interested.
It's like 3000x2600 or something like that.
PM me your email address and I'll send it your way. :)

Awesome! I love it because I hate Toyota!

+1 :usa:

Send me one too. I need to post that up at the Toyota Proving Grounds tonight.

I do have a LARGE hi-res file if anyone is interested.
It's like 3000x2600 or something like that.
PM me your email address and I'll send it your way. :)

I'll take one, pm on it's way. Thank you.

I got that emailed to me by Scott Settlemire. I couldn't stop laughing! That has to be the best picture I've ever seen!

There "here to RACE" not HERE TO HAUL"... lol.. saw that on another site!

I wouldn't want to haul my own ass with a Toyota Truck, let alone a race car trailer.

Send me one too. I need to post that up at the Toyota Proving Grounds tonight.

Now THAT will be hysterical!!!! :rotflmao:

:usa:

The picture defines the term "ironic" pretty well.

I have nothing against Tundra's. I like my Grandma's 06 Tundra CrewMax more than my Uncles 06 Chevy Silverado. Its a little more car-like on the inside, and a more comfortable all-around ride, towing capacity aside.

About 2 weeks, she got swiped by a semi hauling 15+ tons of gravel, and walked away with little more than a bruised rib (truck was totalled, expectedly). Im not saying that Chevy/GMC trucks cant do that, but you need to give respect to any truck that can keep the driver safe after being swiped by a semi. She's gonna buy another one, not that I blame here.

:drool: ...........TOYOTA.............. :drool:

Toyota does not make a heavy hauler do they? If not then you gotta haul it with something? Might as well go with a cheap alternative.

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The picture defines the term "ironic" pretty well.

I have nothing against Tundra's. I like my Grandma's 06 Tundra CrewMax more than my Uncles 06 Chevy Silverado. Its a little more car-like on the inside, and a more comfortable all-around ride, towing capacity aside.

About 2 weeks, she got swiped by a semi hauling 15+ tons of gravel, and walked away with little more than a bruised rib (truck was totalled, expectedly). Im not saying that Chevy/GMC trucks cant do that, but you need to give respect to any truck that can keep the driver safe after being swiped by a semi. She's gonna buy another one, not that I blame here.

In their defense, ALL the other Full-size pickups got higher crash test ratings then the Tundra. The Tundra is the only one to have 4-star ratings instead of 5, I believe.

It can pull an empty container up a cliff on a commercial but cant pull a loaded car hauler in real life.

Funny stuff.

Guess those "Bigger parts" couldn't handle the truth!

It can pull an empty container up a cliff on a commercial but cant pull a loaded car hauler in real life.

Funny stuff.



That car hauler weighs in excees of 15k lbs most likely. The trailor alone weighs 7k lbs, not including 7-8k lbs of cars.



The people that are complaining or bitching, I find it ironic, that it has a Japanese motor, powering that GM. Isuzu for the Duramax. :usa:

I posted this up at SVTPerformance. I wonder if 45psi is 25Psi over there hmmmm.

That car hauler weighs in excees of 15k lbs most likely. The trailor alone weighs 7k lbs, not including 7-8k lbs of cars.



The people that are complaining or bitching, I find it ironic, that it has a Japanese motor, powering that GM. Isuzu for the Duramax. :usa:
No complaining or bitching, just laughing. It is very funny that with all the talk about how much "bigger and better" their trucks are in commercials that they dont live up to it in real life.
Our ring gear is huge,
Our engine is super strong,
Our brakes are super gigantic,
Our transmission is super duper big,
Our back seat is ginormous,


Oh, wait, that trailer is to big. :cry:

Not to mention that all their commercial comparisons were their top line offerings to the base or mid level competition.

Also, the Dmax is made in OH and is a joint venture between GM and Isuzu. Not to mention it could be a 6.0, or even a 8.1.

That car hauler weighs in excees of 15k lbs most likely. The trailor alone weighs 7k lbs, not including 7-8k lbs of cars.



The people that are complaining or bitching, I find it ironic, that it has a Japanese motor, powering that GM. Isuzu for the Duramax. :usa:


I'm sooo glad to see our #1 resident "import defender" (25psi) back on here, and "on top of his game". :lol:
Great to have ya back Chrissy, it was almost boring without ya!

Next we have to work on getting "piss" (pssonu) back, then the rice defense duo will be complete. (Or were they the same alter egos as well?? :confused: )

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52966




Toyota Tundra Overtakes GMC Sierra 1500 in YTD Sales?
8/2/07 | Autoblog

... According to Mike Levine at pickuptruck.com, it appears the GMC Sierra 1500 lost its #4 ranking in half-ton sales to the Tundra based on projections culled from production numbers. ...

... General Motors reports that the Sierra has sold 115,185 units year-to-date. The figure, however, includes 2006 and 2007 models of the Sierra 1500, Sierra 2500 (three-quarter ton), Sierra 3500 (one-ton) and even the 2007 Sierra "Classic" based on the older GMT800 platform. GM doesn't break down the sales numbers for the Sierra by model, so Levine got creative and used production numbers for each model from both 2005 and 2006 to extrapolate what percentage of this year's sales the Sierra 1500 model was likely to be. ...

... Based on an "apples-to-apples" comparison in sales between half-ton models, it would then seem the 2007 Toyota Tundra easily outsold GMC Sierra 1500 to become the #4 best-selling half-ton pickup in the U.S. Based on projections through the end of the year, the Tundra will likely outsell all GMC Sierra models, as well, making it the #4 best-selling truck of any kind in the U.S. behind the Ford F-150, Chevy Silverado and Dodge Ram.

Autoblog

PickUpTruck.com

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52966&page=2


I find it ironic, that this site mentioned above, has more sense than the most of you. Atleast they're more level headed and not as biased.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52966




Toyota Tundra Overtakes GMC Sierra 1500 in YTD Sales?
8/2/07 | Autoblog

... According to Mike Levine at pickuptruck.com, it appears the GMC Sierra 1500 lost its #4 ranking in half-ton sales to the Tundra based on projections culled from production numbers. ...

... General Motors reports that the Sierra has sold 115,185 units year-to-date. The figure, however, includes 2006 and 2007 models of the Sierra 1500, Sierra 2500 (three-quarter ton), Sierra 3500 (one-ton) and even the 2007 Sierra "Classic" based on the older GMT800 platform. GM doesn't break down the sales numbers for the Sierra by model, so Levine got creative and used production numbers for each model from both 2005 and 2006 to extrapolate what percentage of this year's sales the Sierra 1500 model was likely to be. ...

... Based on an "apples-to-apples" comparison in sales between half-ton models, it would then seem the 2007 Toyota Tundra easily outsold GMC Sierra 1500 to become the #4 best-selling half-ton pickup in the U.S. Based on projections through the end of the year, the Tundra will likely outsell all GMC Sierra models, as well, making it the #4 best-selling truck of any kind in the U.S. behind the Ford F-150, Chevy Silverado and Dodge Ram.

Autoblog

PickUpTruck.com
All that means is that Toyota has better marketing than GMC. Doesn't change the fact that their truck still sucks.

All that means is that Toyota has better marketing than GMC. Doesn't change the fact that their truck still sucks.



http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/..._gear_box.html

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=119281

http://www.trailerboats.com/output.cfm?id=1210051

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...06/057372.html

consumer reports.com as well.

fucking toyota!! LOL that picture of the gmc pulling the trailer is the funniest thing i've seen in a while.

http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/..._gear_box.html

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=119281

http://www.trailerboats.com/output.cfm?id=1210051

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...06/057372.html

consumer reports.com as well.

Afraid to look up motor trend?

Car and Driver also had the Chevy ahead in a comparison.

North American Truck Of The Year.

Not to mention everyone knows consumer reports sucks. Anyone who puts any kind of value in magazine articles for other than reading enjoyment is ridiculous. These are the people who said the Honda Ridgeline was TOTY and the best truck on the market.

:bang: :mad::ripped: <----Toyota owners when their camshafts break.


:eyes:

Afraid to look up motor trend?

Car and Driver also had the Chevy ahead in a comparison.

North American Truck Of The Year.

Not to mention everyone knows consumer reports sucks. Anyone who puts any kind of value in magazine articles for other than reading enjoyment is ridiculous. These are the people who said the Honda Ridgeline was TOTY and the best truck on the market.

:bang: :mad::ripped: <----Toyota owners when their camshafts break.


:eyes:



No car and driver didnt. And for Motortrend, the Tundra was not released, until after the comparisons.

I love it when ignorant folks bring up the camshaft issue, considering it was less than 20 reported of the 200k sold(.0001 %)( C6 Z06 had more issues with the roof flying off). Tell me why there isnt a recall, if it were so previlant? I guess it hasnt reflected on its sales has it? Dont be mad, itll be ok.


BTW, I thought you might enjoy this:


Tundra sales up 61.4% in September

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,190356.shtml


F150 sales down 20.8% to 56,065 from 70,822 for September:

http://www.ford.com/about-ford/news-...press-releases

Silverado sales up 5% to 52,040 from 51,964

Sierra sales up 9% to 18,445 from 17,604

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...74&docid=40014

Ram sales up 25% to 30,100 from 25,081, impressive considering it is one of the older models in the segment:

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...e,190480.shtml

Titan sales down 11.1 percent to 5,193 from 6,073

http://www.nissannews.com


It is nice to know, that Chevy is on the plus side? :nod:

No car and driver didnt. And for Motortrend, the Tundra was not released, until after the comparisons.


Actually the new tundra was compared a couple of times by Motor Trend and lost, they even showed it in the pictures for the articles. They also did an across the line comparison and the Chevy won.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/12502/2007-chevrolet-silverado-v-2007-dodge-ram-v-2007-ford-f-150-v-2007-nissan-titan-v-2007-toyota-tundra.html

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/112_0704_chevrolet_silverado_toyota_tundra/details.html

http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado/comparison/awards/

There is more, but those should prove the point.

No car and driver didnt. And for Motortrend, the Tundra was not released, until after the comparisons.

I love it when ignorant folks bring up the camshaft issue, considering it was less than 20 reported of the 200k sold(.0001 %)( C6 Z06 had more issues with the roof flying off). Tell me why there isnt a recall, if it were so previlant? I guess it hasnt reflected on its sales has it? Dont be mad, itll be ok.


BTW, I thought you might enjoy this:


Tundra sales up 61.4% in September

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,190356.shtml


F150 sales down 20.8% to 56,065 from 70,822 for September:

http://www.ford.com/about-ford/news-...press-releases

Silverado sales up 5% to 52,040 from 51,964

Sierra sales up 9% to 18,445 from 17,604

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...74&docid=40014

Ram sales up 25% to 30,100 from 25,081, impressive considering it is one of the older models in the segment:

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...e,190480.shtml

Titan sales down 11.1 percent to 5,193 from 6,073

http://www.nissannews.com


It is nice to know, that Chevy is on the plus side? :nod:

LMAO... 25PSI you are the biggest japanese car fanboy Ive ever seen.

LMAO... 25PSI you are the biggest japanese car fanboy Ive ever seen.


LOL, what took you so long. :punch: j/k You know I like to stir the pot. Honestly, its nice to see GM on the positive side again.

http://www.photobud.com/cgi-bin/pb/browse.cgi?listing_id=4420&cat_id=13&page=1&zip=&radius=&state=

And who said Toyota didnt make a 1-ton HD pick-up? This one is a dually!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhSyaUYT3s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhSyaUYT3s




...lol

Dude those tundras are weak they have frigin headers from the factory a bad ass 6 speed tranny to put the motor in the band verry well is where most of the power comes from. Cant wait till I get My ASA camshaft installed on my 04' Silverado SS AWD So I can pull my long ass 4 speed gears on my factory 4:10's :nod: When my ss just had a GMPP CAI and a Borla cat back untuned I raced a new tundra on I-20 in arlington and he only got me by about a truck and a half from a 65 punch but at about 80ish my RPM's came up and I stayed dead even pull till about 100 when the SS started to pull the he cowardly shut down:bang: This same outcome about four times :barf: The only reason he pulled is because of his tranny. Now I have full longtubes and soon a ASA cam so bring it yota.

Tundra sales up 61.4% in September

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...e,190356.shtml


just curious what the units sold number was? 19k ? I sure freaking hope its 61% higher than their 06 truck (if you want to call it a truck)

Dude those tundras are weak they have frigin headers from the factory a bad ass 6 speed tranny to put the motor in the band verry well is where most of the power comes from. Cant wait till I get My ASA camshaft installed on my 04' Silverado SS AWD So I can pull my long ass 4 speed gears on my factory 4:10's :nod: When my ss just had a GMPP CAI and a Borla cat back untuned I raced a new tundra on I-20 in arlington and he only got me by about a truck and a half from a 65 punch but at about 80ish my RPM's came up and I stayed dead even pull till about 100 when the SS started to pull the he cowardly shut down:bang: This same outcome about four times :barf: The only reason he pulled is because of his tranny. Now I have full longtubes and soon a ASA cam so bring it yota.

All trucks have headers from the factory! If your meaning to say, they have equal length headers from the factory, then you are wrong. They are far from it. Doug Thorley just released some equal length headers, that made 26hp and almost 40ftlb on our trucks. There's alot of potential left in these motors, that have yet to be opened.

Dude, look at the vids that are posted up, of Tundras vs Siverados racing. Its not even close. The Tundra and Denali are the only trucks that trap over 90mph stock(95-96 Tundra and 94-95mph Denali). The fact is, you will need to mod your truck, in order to pull a stock Tundra! The RC(regular cabs) Tundra's, are running 13.8's-14.1 at 97mph and I know, with your bolt on's, your not close to that. Instead of bench racing, saying you can beat this and that, show me a video of you doing so!

All trucks have headers from the factory! If your meaning to say, they have equal length headers from the factory, then you are wrong.

The Tundra's have a tubular exhaust header from the factory where most trucks have a cast exhaust manifold, so you are wrong. It was even in one of their commercials. If I am not mistaken they are a tri-y stainless steel header, which is good for torque. And they are equal length, at least that is what Toyota was saying.

You do realize, that the only reason Tundra's numbers are up so much the last much is because they started offering 0% APR for 60months with some rebates. That also causes an increase in sales. I wish your link would have shown that too.

now thats rich

You do realize, that the only reason Tundra's numbers are up so much the last much is because they started offering 0% APR for 60months with some rebates. That also causes an increase in sales. I wish your link would have shown that too.


90% of its customers, do not apply to such interest rates. You basically need a 625-650+ credit score to do so. GM also offer, such incentives.

The Tundra's have a tubular exhaust header from the factory where most trucks have a cast exhaust manifold, so you are wrong. It was even in one of their commercials. If I am not mistaken they are a tri-y stainless steel header, which is good for torque. And they are equal length, at least that is what Toyota was saying.

If the headers were so good, why are people making tubular shorties that makes 26hp and 40ftlb over stock?

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/tundra/111626-doug-thorley-5-7l-headers/



http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/attachments/tundra/24027d1190731258-doug-thorley-5-7l-headers-p1010005.jpg


Qoute : """"Wow, so many questions. Ok, it does not really change the sound too much, a little deeper but not much. They are mild steel coated in ceramic and available in chrome right now. The stainless steel would have cost too much money and no one wold want to buy them.

As for the dyno charts and pictures, we have nothing to hide with our product. I am a Mechanical Designer here at Jardine/ Doug Thorley and I am very proud of our product. It is excellent workmanship and development. Such considerations as firing order, equal tube length, and REAL TRI-Y design. I am not at my desk right now. But our header compared to the stock one has MANY differences. The stock one is stamp mild uncoated steel with NO equal length tubes and dumps right into cats. When they are that short there is no torque and slow response. The best place to get our headers right now is through URD USA.

Our headers undergo pressure testing to make sure all welds are good and leak free. Flanges are think 3/8" laser cut steel. They are ground flat AFTER being welded to insure a proper seal. We also use factory Toyota style crush gaskets because they work the best. Why change it? Our ceramic coating is the best money can buy, its 5 mil thick on both sides and provides excellent durability and heat protection. They wont blue and wont rust.

I will get a picture of the stock manifolds tomorrow so you guys can compare. We have nothing to hide about our products and I will be glad to answer any other questions you guys have.""""

Wow - this thread has spiraled out of control! Last I remember it was a funny picture of a Chevy pulling a Toyota racing trailer. Now we are talking about Toyota finance incentives....:eyes:

Toyota...:drool::drool::drool:

If the headers were so good, why are people making tubular shorties that makes 26hp and 40ftlb over stock?

I never said they were so good, I simply said that you were wrong when you corrected the previous poster. That and you were also wrong when you said they were not equal length. Oh, and when you said all trucks have headers from the factory. You liked telling him that he was wrong, turns out it was you instead. I was just there to correct you.

I never said they were so good, I simply said that you were wrong when you corrected the previous poster. That and you were also wrong when you said they were not equal length. Oh, and when you said all trucks have headers from the factory. You liked telling him that he was wrong, turns out it was you instead. I was just there to correct you.


No, he insisted that we have tubular headers from the factory. Which is not true. They might be well designed for a factory unit, but it is far from perfrection. Hence as I qouted, they are not tubular. Dont be mad, since the same displacement Tundra, has more power and torque, than your beloved ls1. :punch:

All trucks have headers from the factory! If your meaning to say, they have equal length headers from the factory, then you are wrong. They are far from it. Doug Thorley just released some equal length headers, that made 26hp and almost 40ftlb on our trucks. There's alot of potential left in these motors, that have yet to be opened.


Better check with Toyota on that. Their website clearly says they are equal length, and the pictures clearly show them being tubular.







Also, dont be mad that it took Toyota 10 years to surpass the LS1 and it took a more expensive engine to do it. Why dont you compare it to the Denali engine? Which will be more widely used. And how it takes the Tundra a short rear gear just to get that over weight pig moving even with its power.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hPQmBqMwHDg

Ill be damned. Isnt that tubular exhaust in that commercial? Why yes, it is.

No, he insisted that we have tubular headers from the factory. Which is not true. They might be well designed for a factory unit, but it is far from perfrection. Hence as I qouted, they are not tubular. Dont be mad, since the same displacement Tundra, has more power and torque, than your beloved ls1. :punch:

TOYOTA CAN NEVA LOOSE!!!!!1111 OH YEAH COMPRE 1T 2 DA 10 YER 0LD LS1, DUH!!111
EDIT: Heh, as long as the camshaft doesn't break.

TOYOTA CAN NEVA LOOSE!!!!!1111 OH YEAH COMPRE 1T 2 DA 10 YER 0LD LS1, DUH!!111
EDIT: Heh, as long as the camshaft doesn't break.
And even with the 4 cams, VVT, 4 valves per cylinder, etc......it is still behind the 02 LS6. It even slightly trails the 01 LS6.

I love this thread.

TOYOTA CAN NEVA LOOSE!!!!!1111 OH YEAH COMPRE 1T 2 DA 10 YER 0LD LS1, DUH!!111
EDIT: Heh, as long as the camshaft doesn't break.



Z06 had more issues with the roof flying off that the Tundra with camshaft issue's. LOL, at the people trying to discredit the Toyota sales, which obviously isnt working.

Toyota did something that hasnt been done before and thats pass a Domestic in truck sales. The Nissan Titan has been out for four years and couldnt do it. Keep pushing the cam issue, it seems to be working :chug:

Funny pic but it wont be long before toyota dominates the full size truck market as well..and 45psi i guess your one of those people that truely believe b/c they may build the tundra here that it benefits the US more than some of the domestic brands?? if so wonder where there 13 million dollar profit went last year?? japan..i dont blame people for buying the best product but things like this are going to cause a bigger prob then most people realize for our country...jmo tho

I want a single cab for a dd 13.8 stock WOOT!

People shouldnt blame Toyota for offering what people want(lots of power, lots of torque, 6 speed, etc...) You really need to be upset with GM, for offering a 4 speed auto and less amenities than Toyota.

People shouldnt blame Toyota for offering what people want(lots of power, lots of torque, 6 speed, etc...) You really need to be upset with GM, for offering a 4 speed auto and less amenities than Toyota.

the tundra with all that power and torque should be compared to the Denali (not a base model silverado), and I don't know many people that would take the tundra over the denali

45 PSI your a Goof, the 6 speed is coming and the Denalis have them right.
It will be a long time if ever before Toyota out sells GM as a whole in the truck market.

45 PSI your a Goof, the 6 speed is coming and the Denalis have them right.
It will be a long time if ever before Toyota out sells GM as a whole in the truck market.

You keep thinking that. Thats what everyone said about the Corolla, Camry, Accord.

Your not grasping the concept here. The point Im trying to make and the reason why the Tundra is doing so well, is GM is lacking in performance. They are still offeriing arcaic 4speed auto. I came from a GM, the power sucked as well as the tranny. The tranny would constantly downshift, on the slightest of grades. Fourthermore gas mileage sucked. In addition to that, the truck was always in the shop for brake repair, power window motor and tranny issues. The two trucks are completely different. Towing 9-10k on a daily basis, is no issue for me.

Toyota did something that hasnt been done before and thats pass a Domestic in truck sales. The Nissan Titan has been out for four years and couldnt do it. Keep pushing the cam issue, it seems to be working :chug:

How long did it take? Think back to the T100 and figure how many years it took them to overtake the lowest selling domestic pick-up. And yes, the T100 was a full size truck- at least that is what Toyota called it.

The Tundra isnt a BAD truck, but the GM trucks are better. Aside from the lack of HP the F150 is also better. The Tundra will probably continue to gain in sales over the next few years, but it isnt going to be the dominant full size truck for a long time if ever.

Towing 9-10k on a daily basis, is no issue for me.

You show me what you tow on a daily basis that weighs 9-10k lbs, and your truck doing it.

Or is this going to be like the commercial that originally talked about towing 10,500 lbs and turned out that the container only weighed 6,000? Oh, thats right, they re-edited the commercial.

You show me what you tow on a daily basis that weighs 9-10k lbs, and your truck doing it.

Or is this going to be like the commercial that originally talked about towing 10,500 lbs and turned out that the container only weighed 6,000? Oh, thats right, they re-edited the commercial.

+1 :punch:

You keep thinking that. Thats what everyone said about the Corolla, Camry, Accord.

Everyone; this IS pssonu, trying to escape detection by taking a username similar to the other uber import defender/fanboieee (25 psi, again, unless they are ALL the same import worshipper, who knows??).
Mods, if pssonu had recieved a "lifetime ban" then you have some work to do. If not, then keep a close eye on this username, as he takes pride/joy in "stirring up the shit/pot" (his own words).

Everyone; this IS pssonu, trying to escape detection by taking a username similar to the other uber import defender/fanboieee (25 psi, again, unless they are ALL the same import worshipper, who knows??).
Mods, if pssonu had recieved a "lifetime ban" then you have some work to do. If not, then keep a close eye on this username, as he takes pride/joy in "stirring up the shit/pot" (his own words).



LOL, I think you may be right. 25 psi didn't have a tundra, unless he bought one recently.

thats a funny pic

some of you people just have nothing better to do then bash others for their opinions...


cant say i blame you tho... they are morons!:D

LOL, I think you may be right. 25 psi didn't have a tundra, unless he bought one recently.

If you like, I could send you a pic of the trailor and truck, with my middle finger up.

I tow 150-200 pallets(36x44), 2-300 corregated boxes or 7-8 boxes of Polypropylene(pp,pe-polyethylene,etc) plastic. Me and my father purchased one a week after another. Ive put this truck through abuse on a daily basis. If you like, you can check with the people in the Texas section.

Everyone; this IS pssonu, trying to escape detection by taking a username similar to the other uber import defender/fanboieee (25 psi, again, unless they are ALL the same import worshipper, who knows??).
Mods, if pssonu had recieved a "lifetime ban" then you have some work to do. If not, then keep a close eye on this username, as he takes pride/joy in "stirring up the shit/pot" (his own words).



So what. I pm'd you telling you who I was. Everyone knows that Im 25psi. I think its self explanitory here, givin the name that I choose. I applaud you for giving your personal opinion. But in all honesty, I think your to mduer f'n sensitive, to be taken my posts seriously.

Units not an idiot. Im pretty sure, he can tell by my posts, way I speak and my defense of 350z and supras that its me. I was a memeber here, two years prior to your first post, so maybe this is why he continues to let me post.

You live in Houston, if you doubt anything about me, you can meet me face to face, instead of hiding behind the keyboard holding your nuts like your checkin me or something. IF you doubt me, I will meet you up right now, so you can see what I own face to face. No punk in me homeboy. Yea I stir the pot, maybe I do it to frequently. But you on the other hand, have riddin my nuts for the last 2 years. Its about time you get off. Let me know. Ill be in the Sugarland area in about 45 minutes

Everyone; this IS pssonu, trying to escape detection by taking a username similar to the other uber import defender/fanboieee (25 psi, again, unless they are ALL the same import worshipper, who knows??).
Mods, if pssonu had recieved a "lifetime ban" then you have some work to do. If not, then keep a close eye on this username, as he takes pride/joy in "stirring up the shit/pot" (his own words).

You use to get beat up alot as a kid, didnt you! Na na nana na you can get me :eyes:! Im gonna tell my big brova it was you!

You show me what you tow on a daily basis that weighs 9-10k lbs, and your truck doing it.

Or is this going to be like the commercial that originally talked about towing 10,500 lbs and turned out that the container only weighed 6,000? Oh, thats right, they re-edited the commercial.

Mzooomora and JD, no problems with you all. Weve had our battles, but the majority of the time, have been very informative.

LOL, I think you may be right. 25 psi didn't have a tundra, unless he bought one recently.

Ill send you a pics, if you can post it!

Everyone; this IS pssonu, trying to escape detection by taking a username similar to the other uber import defender/fanboieee (25 psi, again, unless they are ALL the same import worshipper, who knows??).
Mods, if pssonu had recieved a "lifetime ban" then you have some work to do. If not, then keep a close eye on this username, as he takes pride/joy in "stirring up the shit/pot" (his own words).

Its not too hard to tell by the over use of commas, half ass facts, poor defense of his own stance and his defense of the same 2 vehicles (junk ass 14 second 350Z's and cam snapping Tundra's). "But the very newest 350Z's are so super fast they can run neck and neck with your 14 year old LT1 Z28!"

Mzooomora and JD, no problems with you all. Weve had our battles, but the majority of the time, have been very informative.

I try not to take it too seriously really. It is always good to hear the "other side", even if it is from someone who drinks the Kool-Aid.

Its not too hard to tell by the over use of commas, half ass facts, poor defense of his own stance and his defense of the same 2 vehicles (junk ass 14 second 350Z's and cam snapping Tundra's). "But the very newest 350Z's are so super fast they can run neck and neck with your 14 year old LT1 Z28!"

ouch!!

ouch!!



..Ouch

..Ouch

are you okay? do you want some ice for that burn??

are you okay? do you want some ice for that burn??

Beat you to it!

So what. I pm'd you telling you who I was. Everyone knows that Im 25psi. I think its self explanitory here, givin the name that I choose. I applaud you for giving your personal opinion. But in all honesty, I think your to mduer f'n sensitive, to be taken my posts seriously.

Units not an idiot. Im pretty sure, he can tell by my posts, way I speak and my defense of 350z and supras that its me. I was a memeber here, two years prior to your first post, so maybe this is why he continues to let me post.

You live in Houston, if you doubt anything about me, you can meet me face to face, instead of hiding behind the keyboard holding your nuts like your checkin me or something. IF you doubt me, I will meet you up right now, so you can see what I own face to face. No punk in me homeboy. Yea I stir the pot, maybe I do it to frequently. But you on the other hand, have riddin my nuts for the last 2 years. Its about time you get off. Let me know. Ill be in the Sugarland area in about 45 minutes


:funny:
WOW! Is this fanboiee <--(got to put it in "G" terms, so he understands) a "brainiac" or what?? First off, your "pal" unit is NOT the moderator on this forum. Second, he (unit) banned you on the kill forum. Now, whether or not he is your "pal" and Tony and PSJ "forced his hand" to do this is anybody's guess.
Next, I've owned an LS1 f body years before you ever even thought about "import trolling/shit-talking" on a domestic site, and was a member on other LS1 sites LONG before you even knew what an LS1 was.
Nice "thuggy G" talk there "homeboy", are you from the "hood"?
I don't "ride the nuts" of anyone/anything, least of all import/TOY :swing::sack:ers.
Houston?? Who the F*** said anything about living in Houston? I'm about 1300 miles from there, "homie". :eyes: :lol:
Have fun in Sugarland, Chrissy. :wave-fing Don't let the good 'ol boys there kick your "G" ass. :jest:

Mzooomora and JD, no problems with you all. Weve had our battles, but the majority of the time, have been very informative.

Awww, isn't that nice. Chrissy's trying to get allies on his side. :jest:

I can tell by your tone, that your a little fruity anyways, Good luck to you.

Beat you to it!

touche.... lol

Its not too hard to tell by the over use of commas, half ass facts, poor defense of his own stance and his defense of the same 2 vehicles (junk ass 14 second 350Z's and cam snapping Tundra's). "But the very newest 350Z's are so super fast they can run neck and neck with your 14 year old LT1 Z28!"
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
"But...but... da hp/l can neva loose!"
Sigh, its only a matter of time before someone swaps an LS1 in a 350Z to give it some balls.;)

:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
"But...but... da hp/l can neva loose!"
Sigh, its only a matter of time before someone swaps an LS1 in a 350Z to give it some balls.;)

Your late, its been done already

Your late, its been done already

:secret2: Oh shit, was there no 350Z owner uprising?
"GUYZ WH0 CAREZ IF ITZ LIGHTER, MORE POWERFUL, SOUNDS BETTER, AND GETS BETTER GAS MILEAGE, IT DOEZNT HAVE DA VVT AND 4V/CYLINDAR DWAGS!!!!!1"

:secret2: Oh shit, was there no 350Z owner uprising?
"GUYZ WH0 CAREZ IF ITZ LIGHTER, MORE POWERFUL, SOUNDS BETTER, AND GETS BETTER GAS MILEAGE, IT DOEZNT HAVE DA VVT AND 4V/CYLINDAR DWAGS!!!!!1"

Why would there be? Same thing as someone putting the 2jx in a 2000 camaro or in a mustang. No biggie. Do what you want with your money. There's always someone willing to do the unthinkable.

People shouldnt blame Toyota for offering what people want(lots of power, lots of torque, 6 speed, etc...) You really need to be upset with GM, for offering a 4 speed auto and less amenities than Toyota.

I used to be a Toyota fan until I realized they were just plain fuckin boring. I'm sure the New Tundra is a good truck, but it's butt ass ugly and the interior is cheap and has way too much plastic. When I was truck shopping, I looked at a fully loaded Limited Tundra and well, I bought a new Denali instead. As far as amenities go, I think you would be surprised at some of the shit that comes with the Denali. Since you want to compare Toyota's top of the line 1/2 ton truck to GM then use the Denali to compare it to and soon you will find you bought the wrong truck.

The Denali is one hell of a truck. And as far as options go, my 04 is pretty loaded for a pickup. Bose, heated leather with memory, OnStar, XM, power folding mirrors with memory, its a long list of options. And that is a Z71- not a luxury truck by any means. I would only expect that a Denali would have much more.

If you like, I could send you a pic of the trailor and truck, with my middle finger up.

I tow 150-200 pallets(36x44), 2-300 corregated boxes or 7-8 boxes of Polypropylene(pp,pe-polyethylene,etc) plastic. Me and my father purchased one a week after another. Ive put this truck through abuse on a daily basis. If you like, you can check with the people in the Texas section.

Sounds like your Tundra is really handy when you get rid of the trash from your quicky mart. I love quicky mart pizza pockets. Can you get me a deal on some.

I used to be a Toyota fan until I realized they were just plain fuckin boring. I'm sure the New Tundra is a good truck, but it's butt ass ugly and the interior is cheap and has way too much plastic. When I was truck shopping, I looked at a fully loaded Limited Tundra and well, I bought a new Denali instead. As far as amenities go, I think you would be surprised at some of the shit that comes with the Denali. Since you want to compare Toyota's top of the line 1/2 ton truck to GM then use the Denali to compare it to and soon you will find you bought the wrong truck.


I got my 4x4 CM for 31k out the door. How much did you pay for yours? I didnt want the hassle and the bad experience associated with my previous Tahoe.

Sounds like your Tundra is really handy when you get rid of the trash from your quicky mart. I love quicky mart pizza pockets. Can you get me a deal on some.

Actually we are in the plastics/box buisness and have been open since 91. If you knew anything about plastics, then you know its a very profitable buisness. What is it that you do, if I may ask?

I'm a submarine mechanic in the Navy. Any other questions I can help you with?

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/180000/180098MSUR_w.jpg

I'm a submarine mechanic in the Navy. Any other questions I can help you with?



So basically nothing.

I got my 4x4 CM for 31k out the door. How much did you pay for yours? I didnt want the hassle and the bad experience associated with my previous Tahoe.

My Denali is fully loaded with everything and the sticker was 48,500 and I paid 43,500. So if you paid only 31K then I'm pretty sure you have the SR5 with little to options on it. The Limited fully loaded is around 48,500. So back to these amenities you talk of, I almost guarantee you don't have many with your current configuartion.

So basically nothing.

Pretty much, but you wouldn't know it from my pay check.

My Denali is fully loaded with everything and the sticker was 48,500 and I paid 43,500. So if you paid only 31K then I'm pretty sure you have the SR5 with little to options on it. The Limited fully loaded is around 48,500. So back to these amenities you talk of, I almost guarantee you don't have many with your current configuartion.


My point is that, the Tundra is equipped with a 6 speed standard in the 5.7. I didnt need leather or navigation, since this is a work truck. So in actuallity, we need to compare whats standard in our trucks and the Denali is the only option at the time. So lets just compare the Tundra to Silverado

My point is that, the Tundra is equipped with a 6 speed standard in the 5.7. I didnt need leather or navigation, since this is a work truck. So in actuallity, we need to compare whats standard in our trucks and the Denali is the only option at the time. So lets just compare the Tundra to Silverado

So what your saying is that I just proved you wrong and you want to change your story? Thats fine. Lets just compare my truck to yours. Yea I paid more, but i got what I paid for. Like I said before, the Fully loaded Tundra is boring and ugly, so the cheaper one that you have must be even worse. Want your truck to look really good? Just compare it to a GMC Canyon or even better a Chevy Luv. Oh, and the Tundra Doesn't come standard with the six speed and the 5.7. It's been fun chatting with you, but I have to go get some sleep for a full day of doing nothing tomorrow.

So what your saying is that I just proved you wrong and you want to change your story? Thats fine. Lets just compare my truck to yours. Yea I paid more, but i got what I paid for. Like I said before, the Fully loaded Tundra is boring and ugly, so the cheaper one that you have must be even worse. Want your truck to look really good? Just compare it to a GMC Canyon or even better a Chevy Luv. Oh, and the Tundra Doesn't come standard with the six speed and the 5.7. It's been fun chatting with you, but I have to go get some sleep for a full day of doing nothing tomorrow.

Yes the 5.7 comes standard with a 6 speed. No optionsal 4 speed here buddy.

I dont want a Cheby. The resale will not be as high as a Tundra. Customer Service is top notch. You paid damn near 20k more than me. Wow, good for you. Hows that extra 5-600 dollar a month extra on the payment? I dont like the styling of the Denali, to me, its plain and out right boring. I guess thats why our trucks are selling like hot cakes, while GM's truck sales are down. Keep thinking your truck is superior, while I keep watch my stocks rise!

It's been fun chatting with you, but I have to go get some sleep for a full day of doing nothing tomorrow

All trucks have headers from the factory! If your meaning to say, they have equal length headers from the factory, then you are wrong. They are far from it. Doug Thorley just released some equal length headers, that made 26hp and almost 40ftlb on our trucks. There's alot of potential left in these motors, that have yet to be opened.

Dude, look at the vids that are posted up, of Tundras vs Siverados racing. Its not even close. The Tundra and Denali are the only trucks that trap over 90mph stock(95-96 Tundra and 94-95mph Denali). The fact is, you will need to mod your truck, in order to pull a stock Tundra! The RC(regular cabs) Tundra's, are running 13.8's-14.1 at 97mph and I know, with your bolt on's, your not close to that. Instead of bench racing, saying you can beat this and that, show me a video of you doing so!

First off I wasen't bench racing.And with my bolt ons and the ASA cam I will be prety safe to say at about 400HP to the ground and run Low 13's See the thread in PT.net under drag on the 04 ss with this cam! Thats all the power I need maybe some heads to with the tax return money :devil: The toyota motor is all hoped up just like a racing motor! I see those pricks trying to beat pontiac/GM so bad on the rolex series nascar truck Nascar ect and that development went straight to the truck motor. Now get your 45psi of overboostin ass out of here again for good dude and go play with your racing development 5.7 trash in a regular 1/2 ton model truck :D Can you tell we dont like the import Jocking here.. No shit BI**H :bigun2:

Yes the 5.7 comes standard with a 6 speed. No optionsal 4 speed here buddy.

I dont want a Cheby. The resale will not be as high as a Tundra. Customer Service is top notch. You paid damn near 20k more than me. Wow, good for you. Hows that extra 5-600 dollar a month extra on the payment? I dont like the styling of the Denali, to me, its plain and out right boring. I guess thats why our trucks are selling like hot cakes, while GM's truck sales are down. Keep thinking your truck is superior, while I keep watch my stocks rise!

It's been fun chatting with you, but I have to go get some sleep for a full day of doing nothing tomorrow

No wonder the only thing your qualified to do is play with cardboard boxes, your math skills are terrible. 43,500 minus 31,000 is 12,500! Where are you getting 20k? What I said was the Toyota Tundra does not come standard with the 5.7L and the six-speed tranny. The standard engine is the 4.7L with the 5-speed tranny. Man, your reading and comprehension skills are shitty as well as your spelling and grammar. I'd pay money to see your SAT scores.

No wonder the only thing your qualified to do is play with cardboard boxes, your math skills are terrible. 43,500 minus 31,000 is 12,500! Where are you getting 20k? What I said was the Toyota Tundra does not come standard with the 5.7L and the six-speed tranny. The standard engine is the 4.7L with the 5-speed tranny. Man, your reading and comprehension skills are shitty as well as your spelling and grammar. I'd pay money to see your SAT scores.

You absolutely correct. Our buisness has sucked for the last 16 years. I have know idea, why we keep it open. The funny thing is, I probably have more bills, than you make monthly. Get back to work, mopping the deck. Aight popeye!

You absolutely correct. Our buisness has sucked for the last 16 years. I have know idea, why we keep it open. The funny thing is, I probably have more bills, than you make monthly. Get back to work, mopping the deck. Aight popeye!

News Flash Dickhead! A lot of bills is a bad thing. I hope your not in charge of the cardboard box operation, because if you were I have a feeling your business wouldn't be doing so well. Your like the kid in High School that always got his ass kicked and picked on, but would always comeback for more because your Mom molested you and your drunk ass father would beat the fuck out of you. If your father didn't beat the fuck out of you, could you tell him to start? Thanks. Toyota's are like tampons...all the bitches have em!

News Flash Dickhead! A lot of bills is a bad thing. I hope your not in charge of the cardboard box operation, because if you were I have a feeling your business wouldn't be doing so well. Your like the kid in High School that always got his ass kicked and picked on, but would always comeback for more because your Mom molested you and your drunk ass father would beat the fuck out of you. If your father didn't beat the fuck out of you, could you tell him to start? Thanks. Toyota's are like tampons...all the bitches have em!


Wow nice comeback. Im so proud of you.

Newsflash Dickhead, bills are relative to the amount you make. If I make 200k a year and spend 5 grand a month on bills, who to say its a bad thing. Go finish mopping the deck kid. Time to go nite nite. Dont let one of the soldiers bend ya over, like your daddy use to do. Ill refrain from anymore condescending remarks.

Yes the 5.7 comes standard with a 6 speed. No optionsal 4 speed here buddy.

I dont want a Cheby. The resale will not be as high as a Tundra. Customer Service is top notch. You paid damn near 20k more than me. Wow, good for you. Hows that extra 5-600 dollar a month extra on the payment? I dont like the styling of the Denali, to me, its plain and out right boring. I guess thats why our trucks are selling like hot cakes, while GM's truck sales are down. Keep thinking your truck is superior, while I keep watch my stocks rise!

It's been fun chatting with you, but I have to go get some sleep for a full day of doing nothing tomorrow

What the hell is the point of a 6 speed in a towing medium duty truck? Nothing, extra weight. You don't need that deep of a 1st and you shouldn't use the top gears when towing. Waste of money if you ask me.

I have driven 6 speeds for awhile and most of the time you only use 3-4 of the gears. The facts are 6 7 and 8 speeds aren't going to save you much money over driving in a more proper fashion. Vehicles have been skyrocketing in GVW and this isn't going to help any.

A truck needs to be tough. The more gears you add the weaker the tranny and the more power you loose. Idealy you want a direct drive for your top gear in a towing application and the perception that a medium duty truck needs 6 gears to tow is asine. A Semi is a different story though.

45psi is wrong, is that that 25psi guy again? :eyes:

Yeah, they have a 6 speed. To improve their gas mileage --

WHICH IS STILL 2MPG LESS THAN OURS!:bang::D

Our trucks are better, we still have 90%+ of the fullsize market, etc. Enough people have posted why that I don't have to, and it's basically all over the internet how much better American trucks are. Anyone have that video that was posted on here of the really bumpy road test with the Tundra flexing like CRAZY?

45psi is wrong, is that that 25psi guy again? :eyes:

Yeah, they have a 6 speed. To improve their gas mileage --

WHICH IS STILL 2MPG LESS THAN OURS!:bang::D

Our trucks are better, we still have 90%+ of the fullsize market, etc. Enough people have posted why that I don't have to, and it's basically all over the internet how much better American trucks are. Anyone have that video that was posted on here of the really bumpy road test with the Tundra flexing like CRAZY?

I will tell you right now, the import fans are going to come out and say that test rigged and Ford took bolts out of the bed (why Ford would sabotage their own tests is beyond me) but I thought I would just give you a heads up because I know its coming

I can tell by your tone, that your a little fruity anyways, Good luck to you.

Damn, you can hear things over the silent internet, Chrissy?! :loco:

BTW; I'm not the one who is constantly talking about "riding the nuts" of men, and "bending another man over" as you always must. A little obsessed with this maybe?? Yeah, you're right, I'm the "fruity" one. :eyes: :eyes: :jest:

If you like, I could send you a pic of the trailor and truck, with my middle finger up.

I tow 150-200 pallets(36x44), 2-300 corregated boxes or 7-8 boxes of Polypropylene(pp,pe-polyethylene,etc) plastic. Me and my father purchased one a week after another. Ive put this truck through abuse on a daily basis. If you like, you can check with the people in the Texas section.


WOW, so mean lol.

My truck has towed so much that I've already gone through a transmission and my bumper is bent downwards. THAT'S WORK.

Newsflash Dickhead, bills are relative to the amount you make.
Wrong. Bills are relative to the amount you spend. Put your e-wang away. No one cares how big it is because you own a "superior" Tundra that can't hack it in the work world. All the Tundra is good for is for sheeple who want to pretend to have a good truck. Want a work truck? Buy a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. The only thing a Tundra is good at is 1/4 mile runs, and who cares about that shit in something that's supposed to be a work truck?

WOW, so mean lol.

If you like, I could send you a pic of the trailor and truck, with my middle finger up.

I tow 150-200 pallets(36x44), 2-300 corregated boxes or 7-8 boxes of Polypropylene(pp,pe-polyethylene,etc) plastic. Me and my father purchased one a week after another. Ive put this truck through abuse on a daily basis. If you like, you can check with the people in the Texas section.

I would like to see the pic but exclude the hostile suggestions.

Corregated packing is heavy and that is no joke. Many workers in the paperboard industry have injuries from underestimating the weight of paper. Anyone who has ever hauled cardboard, yet is stout guys.

Where they half skids or full (36x44)? Just asking.

I would like to see the pic but exclude the hostile suggestions.

Corregated packing is heavy and that is no joke. Many workers in the paperboard industry have injuries from underestimating the weight of paper. Anyone who has ever hauled cardboard, yet is stout guys.

Where they half skids or full (36x44)? Just asking.


These were full 36x44 pallets. We use them for our platic materials ex: polypropylene, polyethelene, etc.... The corregated boxes, we manufactor for different companies. These boxes weigh around 30-50lbs a piece. When stack 30-40 high, can weigh a considerable amount.

We also bail up recycled paper/waste paper. Each bail weighs approximately 1200-1500 lbs, depending on what type of material used. I just hauled 8 1300lb bails of cardboard( types you see at Walmart in the back) 60 miles without issue. I know this is not a Desiel truck, but it is more than enough, for what I use it for.

Remember, towing is totally different from carrying. Just about any 1/2 ton truck, can manuever 15k lbs without issue.

toyota uses gm drivetrain parts...

Proof that Chevys can out-pull a toyota anyday.

LMAO... That's classic...

:lol: Toyota Tundra :lol:

:lol: Honda Ridgeline :lol:

:usa: Chevy Silverado :usa:

You guys are fucking dumb, the toyota rapes every other truck in its class. They run 14s stock, the American ones run low 16s or high 15s. And I like to go fast, so I'd get the tundra.

And quick complaining about where it was made, your cars were made in fucking canada for gods sake.

You guys are fucking dumb, the toyota rapes every other truck in its class. They run 14s stock, the American ones run low 16s or high 15s. And I like to go fast, so I'd get the tundra.

And quick complaining about where it was made, your cars were made in fucking canada for gods sake.

You missed half the points in this arugement. It is not one technicality. Especially if it benefits us more. It is the overall picture. The economics, the distribution of labour, what countries GNP is really benefitting.....

You can spin the arguement anyway you want when people use these tactics. uff.

Even though the ASM site was in Canada it doesn't compare to imports that did the majority of the design overseas. Camaros are largely domestic content.

The last time I checked it is better to do business with countries of a similar econ.

We keep pointing out --- sigh

If you do 99.9 percent of the work in Maylasia and asm it here is it an American car?? Let us take in the case of the Sprinter Van which is built in Germany under the Dodge label taken apart and re-asm'ed in Georgia. American or not?? [Hint they did it for a tax break.]

HINT HINT they designed, bought parts, asm'ed, hired all in germany and then brought it here. They made it to where the American Facility was a skelton crew that snapped together the van in a leggo like process. How does that benefit us?

You guys are fucking dumb, the toyota rapes every other truck in its class. They run 14s stock, the American ones run low 16s or high 15s. And I like to go fast, so I'd get the tundra.

And quick complaining about where it was made, your cars were made in fucking canada for gods sake.

WRONG, a fulley loaded Denali will run mid 14's with 3.42 gears.
Get out of the import cloud.
The same 44,000 dollar comporablly equipped Tundra does it with 4.30 geas.
The only way it is faster is if you buy the Non-optioned RC turck.

:lol: Toyota Tundra :lol:

:lol: Honda Ridgeline :lol:

:usa: Chevy Silverado :usa:

Ditto! :D

You guys are fucking dumb, the toyota rapes every other truck in its class. They run 14s stock, the American ones run low 16s or high 15s. And I like to go fast, so I'd get the tundra.

And quick complaining about where it was made, your cars were made in fucking canada for gods sake.

:jest: If you like to "go fast" why did you buy a V6 Camaro?

I haven't read this entire thread --

The only thing I'll say is this:

Go watch the 'misleading' Toyota Tundra Ads that talk about its towing ability.....and it IS misleading --

WATCH it and LISTEN to it........

........and then tell me that you don't find this funny.

toyota uses gm drivetrain parts...

No, they don't. Period.

WRONG, a fulley loaded Denali will run mid 14's with 3.42 gears.
Get out of the import cloud.
The same 44,000 dollar comporablly equipped Tundra does it with 4.30 geas.
The only way it is faster is if you buy the Non-optioned RC turck.

Your wrong! Edmunds, Motortrend and TruckTrend, all have shown the Tundra to be faster:


Well lets put this into perspective, Edmunds tested a 4x4 DC with a curb weight of 5637lb. And note in the link below, the statement under
-Acceleration Comments-
"All the best runs were made with traction control off*, but with prudent throttle modulation to keep the rear tires from evaporating. Wow, this thing is quick!"
obviously implies the runs were made in 2wd mode
Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks

And when testing the all new Hot Rodded 2007 GMC Sierra Denali with a 403hp/417lb-ft trq 6.2L with a 6sp auto, this is what they had to say:

"this 5,309-pound two-wheel-drive truck hauls to 60 mph in just 6.5 seconds and rips through the quarter-mile in 15.0 seconds at 92.1 mph".

"But the GMC Sierra Denali is not the quickest truck on the market. That title is held by the new Toyota Tundra with its 381-hp, 5.7-liter V8. In our testing, the four-wheel-drive Tundra Double Cab pounds to 60 mph in just 6.3 seconds and runs the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds at 93.7 mph, even though it weighs 328 pounds more than the Sierra Denali.
Sometimes power isn't enough to guarantee dominance. Or maybe either GMC or Toyota or both are wrong about the power numbers they're publishing."
Full Test: 2007 GMC Sierra Denali


http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=120718/pageNumber=1

And for the record, the fastest Tundra has run a best of 13.8 for the regular Cab.

Take notes on the weights of the vehicles. The Tundra is almost 400lbs heavier than the Denali, but still traps higher :nod:. Do the math.

1) Denali is overated
2) Tundra is underated

Pick one!

I haven't read this entire thread --

The only thing I'll say is this:

Go watch the 'misleading' Toyota Tundra Ads that talk about its towing ability.....and it IS misleading --

WATCH it and LISTEN to it........

........and then tell me that you don't find this funny.

They are not misleading. I tow 14k on a daily basis and do it without issues. On the title for the Tundra's, they are rated to be 3/4 ton trucks(states thos on the title).

What I find amusing is, Ford 150, all of a sudden is rated to tow 11k, despite not touching anything on the truck. Go figure!

Another article I would like for you to read, is the fact that over 20k F150 have been traded in for a Tundra

You guys are fucking dumb, the toyota rapes every other truck in its class. They run 14s stock, the American ones run low 16s or high 15s. And I like to go fast, so I'd get the tundra.

And quick complaining about where it was made, your cars were made in fucking canada for gods sake.

That's funny, I havent had a tundra yet that can dream up keeping up with me:D.

That's funny, I havent had a tundra yet that can dream up keeping up with me:D.


Care to show any vids, to back up your claim, becuase I can. No, RC 5.3 stock, can compete with a RC Tundra. Its no comparison. Even a bolt on RC 5.3 liter can't match a Tundra. With your mods, can you run low 14's high 13's at 97-98mph?

I have a CM Tundra and Ive run a stock Duramax with an exhaust and simply killed him by 3 cars. Ive run a Dodge Hemi, with the same results. I then ran a silverado with bolt ons and I must say it was quick, but I still edged him by a car and a half. The CM is the slowest of the bunch, but it still manages to pull 14.7 1/4 times at 92-93mph.

Care to show any vids, to back up your claim, becuase I can. No, RC 5.3 stock, can compete with a RC Tundra. Its no comparison. Even a bolt on RC 5.3 liter can't match a Tundra. With your mods, can you run low 14's high 13's at 97-98mph?

I have a CM Tundra and Ive run a stock Duramax with an exhaust and simply killed him by 3 cars. Ive run a Dodge Hemi, with the same results. I then ran a silverado with bolt ons and I must say it was quick, but I still edged him by a car and a half. The CM is the slowest of the bunch, but it still manages to pull 14.7 1/4 times at 92-93mph.

My truck is not stock, the radix in my sig is a eaton supercharger, it makes 10-11 lbs of boost with the 3.1 pulley. 12's on street tires, shooting for 11's on dr's. so no, your pile can't keep up.

My truck is not stock, the radix in my sig is a eaton supercharger, it makes 10-11 lbs of boost with the 3.1 pulley. 12's on street tires, shooting for 11's on dr's. so no, your pile can't keep up.

Dude, your comparing a stock car, to a modified one. Good idea:bang:. So, the answer is no, your car stock cant compete with one, neither can a full bolt on 5.3.

Your wrong! Edmunds, Motortrend and TruckTrend, all have shown the Tundra to be faster:


Well lets put this into perspective, Edmunds tested a 4x4 DC with a curb weight of 5637lb. And note in the link below, the statement under
-Acceleration Comments-
"All the best runs were made with traction control off*, but with prudent throttle modulation to keep the rear tires from evaporating. Wow, this thing is quick!"
obviously implies the runs were made in 2wd mode
Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks

And when testing the all new Hot Rodded 2007 GMC Sierra Denali with a 403hp/417lb-ft trq 6.2L with a 6sp auto, this is what they had to say:

"this 5,309-pound two-wheel-drive truck hauls to 60 mph in just 6.5 seconds and rips through the quarter-mile in 15.0 seconds at 92.1 mph".

"But the GMC Sierra Denali is not the quickest truck on the market. That title is held by the new Toyota Tundra with its 381-hp, 5.7-liter V8. In our testing, the four-wheel-drive Tundra Double Cab pounds to 60 mph in just 6.3 seconds and runs the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds at 93.7 mph, even though it weighs 328 pounds more than the Sierra Denali.
Sometimes power isn't enough to guarantee dominance. Or maybe either GMC or Toyota or both are wrong about the power numbers they're publishing."
Full Test: 2007 GMC Sierra Denali


http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=120718/pageNumber=1

And for the record, the fastest Tundra has run a best of 13.8 for the regular Cab.

Take notes on the weights of the vehicles. The Tundra is almost 400lbs heavier than the Denali, but still traps higher :nod:. Do the math.

1) Denali is overated
2) Tundra is underated

Pick one!

Read the post dumb ass I didn't say anything about it being faster.
He posted this.
You guys are fucking dumb, the toyota rapes every other truck in its class. They run 14s stock, the American ones run low 16s or high 15s. And I like to go fast, so I'd get the tundra.

All I did was tell him what a Denali would run. I also said that the one that is faster is the Regular Cab Tundra...You are a fucking idiot. The Denali is a 5800 llbs 4 door awd or 2wd truck. GET YOUR DUMB ASS OUT OF THE MAGAZINES AND GO TO THE FUCKING TRACK!!!
You have my permission to put your head back up your ass again.

They are not misleading. I tow 14k on a daily basis and do it without issues. On the title for the Tundra's, they are rated to be 3/4 ton trucks(states thos on the title).

What I find amusing is, Ford 150, all of a sudden is rated to tow 11k, despite not touching anything on the truck. Go figure!

Another article I would like for you to read, is the fact that over 20k F150 have been traded in for a Tundra

TOYOTA C@N NEVAR LOOSE!!!@@#%#$^@%&*1111

Here is what a new Denali can really do and yes its still bone stock. It also helps to have a driver that can reach the pedals all the way. The same day I was at the track a new RC Tundra was there and it ran a best of 14.10. I never saw it hit 13's. Hey 45 psi! Show me your time slip.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b256/ChrisHeidiMcKenzie/scan0002.jpg

45PSI when you start to stop picking and choosing which articles you choose to believe, I may actually take some of what you say seriously...
In another post you crap on JD power becuase they put Buick on top, but you believe MotorTrend and TruckTrend about a Toyota? Those mags are huge inport fans and Edmonds plain sucks.
You can't possibly be a car guy...You are just a Toyota lemming.


OH and look at that timeslip, where it the 13.80 slip you keep talking about?

45PSI when you start to stop picking and choosing which articles you choose to believe, I may actually take some of what you say seriously...
In another post you crap on JD power becuase they put Buick on top, but you believe MotorTrend and TruckTrend about a Toyota? Those mags are huge inport fans and Edmonds plain sucks.
You can't possibly be a car guy...You are just a Toyota lemming.


OH and look at that timeslip, where it the 13.80 slip you keep talking about?


Don't waste your breath...he was running the 1/8th mile...

In another post you crap on JD power becuase they put Buick on top, but you believe MotorTrend and TruckTrend about a Toyota?

But he didnt like when Motor Trend put the Silverado ahead in a comparison test.

But he didnt like when Motor Trend put the Silverado ahead in a comparison test.

As stated earlier, the Tundra wasnt out yet.

As stated earlier, the Tundra wasnt out yet.

That is it? That is all you've got?
Pshaw...

But he didnt like when Motor Trend put the Silverado ahead in a comparison test.

Even if that were true, do I need to bring up Trucktrend, Edmunds, Car and Driver, Consumer Reports, FieldandStreams.com, Trailorboats.com, North American Truck of the year, the list goes on and on. Go ahead, be in denial, while the Tundra keeps getting top honors.

http://www.trailerboats.com/output.cfm?id=1210051

Enjoy your column shifting 4 speed!

toyota uses gm drivetrain parts...

No, they don't. Period.

LIAR!!! Do a search.

Do a search on ummm what engines Toyota uses in their forklifts... I guess Toyota engines can't hack super high duty from continous abuse in an industrial enviroment.

I am fairly sure that Toyota uses other GM designs as well as outsourced designs.

O forgot about Popular Mechanics Magazine, rated the Tundra above Silverado. :gtfo: Find me a real truck to compare it to! Just like Consumer Reports had to, when they tested the Tundra against the Big 3 desiels, where it towed 8000lb's faster than any of them.


""According to the CR test results, the new 5.7 tundra it is a little faster than the diesel 2500 chevy and F250 when pulling a 7400lb trailer to 60mph.
Tundra 16.1 seconds, Chevy 17, Ford 18.9.

It smoked the 1/2 ton chevy and ford.

Chevy 22.6 seconds, Ford 24.1
These numbers do dispel a few myths.

I know The Tundra it not a 3/4 ton and not as great for a long heavy tow but I think this is pretty impressive.

CR's overall trip/mixed MPG for the tundra was 18. That is exactly my average.
The diesel F250 13, 2500 chevy 17,

1/2 ton chevy 18, ford 17.

CR did think the TRD ride was "Jittery".



http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/news/miscnews/cr073.html


"Mr. Champion says, “at 10,300-pounds, the Tundra’s towing capacity rivals that of the heavy-duty diesel trucks."

Find me any articles comparing the Silverado to desiels. Not even in the same class, matter of fact, not in the same sentence. Go buy a real truck!

LIAR!!! Do a search. Don't think just because you believe you are an expert and you believe something that it is true.

Do a search on ummm what engines Toyota uses in their forklifts...

I am fairly sure that Toyota uses other GM designs as well as outsourced designs.

What the hell are you talking about. The engines are totally different! No parts are interchangeable. Ones a 4 cam dohc and the other is a pushrod. One has a 4 speed, the other has a 6 speed. Secondly, why are you talking about forklifts? Third, did you not know, that GM outsources Isuzu on their Duramax?

What the hell are you talking about. The engines are totally different! No parts are interchangeable. Ones a 4 cam dohc and the other is a pushrod. One has a 4 speed, the other has a 6 speed. Secondly, why are you talking about forklifts? Third, did you not know, that GM outsources Isuzu on their Duramax?

You must of just commented to rant if you don't even know what this was in relation to and you didn't even search to verify the information.

Read.
Research.
Finally, comment.


Here is more of Toyota using GM parts
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE2D6143CF930A25754C0A9659582 60

As stated earlier, the Tundra wasnt out yet.

You better recheck that, and also car and driver also ranked the chevy ahead in a comparison. I posted the links before, do I really need to do it again? Is your memory that short?

Also, 2007 North american truck of the year did go to the Chevy also.

http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado/comparison/awards/

The next 2 included the Tundra, so stop fooling yourself. The Silverado beat it head to head.


http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/112_0704_chevrolet_silverado_toyota_tundra/details.html

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/12506/2007-toyota-tundra-4x4-double-cab.html



http://www.cartest.ca/2007_us_car_and_truck_of_the.htm

Also, read the Car And Driver article, the QC 4x4 Tundra ran a 14.9, which means that the previous posters similarly set up Denali is faster.




Oh, Im sorry, is that not what you wanted to read? Car And Driver, Motor Trend, North American Truck Of The Year.

You must of just commented to rant if you don't even know what this was in relation to and you didn't even search to verify the information.

Read.
Research.
Finally, comment.

Dude, your talking about forklifts. Why dont you post the article or thread were you read this from.

What about GM using Toyota for the Pontiac Vibe? Still no answer on that Isuzu Duramax motor for the GM?

Dude, your talking about forklifts. Why dont you post the article or thread were you read this from.

What about GM using Toyota for the Pontiac Vibe? Still no answer on that Isuzu Duramax motor for the GM?

Read the article, it is about GM making Camry engine blocks.

"Starting in mid-1994, G.M.'s foundry in Defiance, Ohio, will produce up to 180,000 engine blocks a year for Toyota's four-cylinder engine, used in the Toyota Camry built in Georgetown, Ky."

45 PSI, its funny how you have no comment on the Denali time slip. I'll ask again. Where is your time slip from the Turdra?

Either your reading comprehension is worse than a pre-schooler or you smoke so much pot that you have absolutely no short term memory. Or maybe it is that blind dedication to Toyota that keeps you from seeing the facts in front of you. I had to repost links that I had already posted earlier in this thread just to prove you wrong again.

45 PSI, its funny how you have no comment on the Denali time slip. I'll ask again. Where is your time slip from the Turdra?

What the fuck can he say...what a fucking dork...He does the shit just to piss people off and his best source of info sucks.

:eyes:You better recheck that, and also car and driver also ranked the chevy ahead in a comparison. I posted the links before, do I really need to do it again? Is your memory that short?

Also, 2007 North american truck of the year did go to the Chevy also.

http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado/comparison/awards/

The next 2 included the Tundra, so stop fooling yourself. The Silverado beat it head to head.


http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/112_0704_chevrolet_silverado_toyota_tundra/details.html

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/12506/2007-toyota-tundra-4x4-double-cab.html



http://www.cartest.ca/2007_us_car_and_truck_of_the.htm

Also, read the Car And Driver article, the QC 4x4 Tundra ran a 14.9, which means that the previous posters similarly set up Denali is faster.




Oh, Im sorry, is that not what you wanted to read? Car And Driver, Motor Trend, North American Truck Of The Year.

Nice try on the Cartest reports. It was posted on January 7, when the Tundra was not released!

Again, read the Caranddriver report. Its more of a truck than the Silverado. It won due to the interior and more car like feel. No win imo!

Due a search on the Tundra on here. MAtter of fact, scroll up to the top to trucks and search on Tundra. There are plenty of vids, of the Tundra running high 13's to low 14's.

Once again, Motortrend own words:

A superior powertrain, more room, and clever packaging

Yet the Tundra's 5.7 is such a stormer, even the bigger engine wouldn't have been enough for the Chevy to overcome the Toyota's performance advantage.

Once again, an anemic, cute truck wins the interior department. Wow :eyes:

Dude, your talking about forklifts. Why dont you post the article or thread were you read this from.

What about GM using Toyota for the Pontiac Vibe? Still no answer on that Isuzu Duramax motor for the GM?

Why does it matter? It was stated Toyota doesn't use anyone else's stuff and I proved it wrong.

The Vibe/Martix was a JOINT PROJECT. Not like a rebadged vehicle which Toyota did with the Cavalier. :eyes: Didn't know about that one did you?

Many of the projects between Isuzu and GM had a significant number of man hours done in the US.

You must of just commented to rant if you don't even know what this was in relation to and you didn't even search to verify the information.

Read.
Research.
Finally, comment.


Here is more of Toyota using GM parts
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE2D6143CF930A25754C0A9659582 60



Dude, you jump from forklifts, to cars built in 94. This whole discussion has been about Tundras, were you insisted that the Tundra has GM parts

Why does it matter? It was stated Toyota doesn't use anyone else's stuff and I proved it wrong.

The Vibe/Martix was a JOINT PROJECT. Not like a rebadged vehicle which Toyota did with the Cavalier. :eyes: Didn't know about that one did you?

Many of the projects between Isuzu and GM had a significant number of man hours done in the US.

Just like it was a joint venture for Japan and the US:

""
an example of what Japanese auto makers say is their growing effort to reduce trade frictions with the United States. ""

So whats the difference?

Same thing that Yamaha did with the Taurus and other Domestic vehicles.

this thread went to:barf::gtfo:

Dude, you jump from forklifts, to cars built in 94. This whole discussion has been about Tundras, were you insisted that the Tundra has GM parts

English, please??? Huh? I have no idea what you are talking about. Refer to the previous post. You must of missed it completely. It was stated that Toyota uses GM parts and someone contridicted it.

Just like it was a joint venture for Japan and the US:

""
an example of what Japanese auto makers say is their growing effort to reduce trade frictions with the United States. ""

So whats the difference?

Same thing that Yamaha did with the Taurus and other Domestic vehicles.

I have no idea where you are going with that one. Please make a connection between the quote from the article and something in this thread.

All I said was Toyota doesn't always use their own parts to disprove a statement made earlier in this thread.

:eyes:

Nice try on the Cartest reports. It was posted on January 7, when the Tundra was not released!

Again, read the Caranddriver report. Its more of a truck than the Silverado. It won due to the interior and more car like feel. No win imo!

Due a search on the Tundra on here. MAtter of fact, scroll up to the top to trucks and search on Tundra. There are plenty of vids, of the Tundra running high 13's to low 14's.

Once again, Motortrend own words:

A superior powertrain, more room, and clever packaging

Yet the Tundra's 5.7 is such a stormer, even the bigger engine wouldn't have been enough for the Chevy to overcome the Toyota's performance advantage.

Once again, an anemic, cute truck wins the interior department. Wow :eyes:

The car test link was to show you that it won North American truck of the year that you tried to claim for the Tundra.

Show me a link to a QC 4X4 running a high 13. Can you?

If it were all about 1/4 mile times and HP ratings then the Veyron or Shelby would be the best all around car out there or cars would come with drag suspension from the factory. Fact is with all the misleading ads the Toyota is just trying to convince people that their truck is better simply on its engine. It takes more than that to make a good truck, which is why regardless of HP Ford still makes a great truck.

Also read what they have to say about the Tundra interior. That is always where the imports hung their hat and rag on domestics. Now it is just a piece of shit and the GM is far superior.

It funny how you TRY to protect your own stance even after it is proven wrong. It was shown where the Chevy came out ahead in comparisons, which you claimed it never did.

Oh wait, dont tell me, those dont count.:eyes:

But just a few posts ago you were trying to use those same magazines and awards to back your side.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/EnergyandEnvironment/bg288.cfm


http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/23/toyota-and-gm-to-end-fuel-cell-joint-venture/


http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/11/09/isuzu-sticks-with-gm-for-duramax-diesel-engine-joint-venture/

this thread went to:barf::gtfo:

No kidding, about 150 posts ago. The trolls need to :gtfo:.

My head fucking hurts, Faggot5psi, sitll hasen't addressed the 6.2 litre Denali 1/2 ton with a 6 speed auto.

So what GM is using the 4 speed, next year they all get the 6 speed auto. Whoop de do.
Faggot5psi, thanks for giving me something to do asshole.

The car test link was to show you that it won North American truck of the year that you tried to claim for the Tundra.

Show me a link to a QC 4X4 running a high 13. Can you?

If it were all about 1/4 mile times and HP ratings then the Veyron or Shelby would be the best all around car out there or cars would come with drag suspension from the factory. Fact is with all the misleading ads the Toyota is just trying to convince people that their truck is better simply on its engine. It takes more than that to make a good truck, which is why regardless of HP Ford still makes a great truck.

Also read what they have to say about the Tundra interior. That is always where the imports hung their hat and rag on domestics. Now it is just a piece of shit and the GM is far superior.

It funny how you TRY to protect your own stance even after it is proven wrong. It was shown where the Chevy came out ahead in comparisons, which you claimed it never did.

Oh wait, dont tell me, those dont count.:eyes:

But just a few posts ago you were trying to use those same magazines and awards to back your side.

By QC, you mean CM(crew max) or Double Cab? The CM is the heaviest and has run a best time of 14.7 at 93mph. The Double cab has run 14.4 at 95

As posted in 132:


Well lets put this into perspective, Edmunds tested a 4x4 DC with a curb weight of 5637lb. And note in the link below, the statement under
-Acceleration Comments-
"All the best runs were made with traction control off*, but with prudent throttle modulation to keep the rear tires from evaporating. Wow, this thing is quick!"
obviously implies the runs were made in 2wd mode
Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks

And when testing the all new Hot Rodded 2007 GMC Sierra Denali with a 403hp/417lb-ft trq 6.2L with a 6sp auto, this is what they had to say:

"this 5,309-pound two-wheel-drive truck hauls to 60 mph in just 6.5 seconds and rips through the quarter-mile in 15.0 seconds at 92.1 mph".

"But the GMC Sierra Denali is not the quickest truck on the market. That title is held by the new Toyota Tundra with its 381-hp, 5.7-liter V8. In our testing, the four-wheel-drive Tundra Double Cab pounds to 60 mph in just 6.3 seconds and runs the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds at 93.7 mph, even though it weighs 328 pounds more than the Sierra Denali.
Sometimes power isn't enough to guarantee dominance. Or maybe either GMC or Toyota or both are wrong about the power numbers they're publishing."
Full Test: 2007 GMC Sierra Denali


http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...8/pageNumber=1

And for the record, the fastest Tundra has run a best of 13.8 for the regular Cab.

Take notes on the weights of the vehicles. The Tundra is almost 400lbs heavier than the Denali, but still traps higher . Do the math.

1) Denali is overated
2) Tundra is underated

Pick one!

By QC, you mean CM(crew max) or Double Cab? The CM is the heaviest and has run a best time of 14.7 at 93mph.

In our testing, the four-wheel-drive Tundra Double Cab pounds to 60 mph in just 6.3 seconds and runs the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds at 93.7 mph

OK, just to clarify, 14.48 IS LESS THAN 14.7/14.8. So that would make the previous posters Denali QUICKER than a similar Tundra.

I know your math is terrible as proven earlier in this thread, but that is pretty simple.

45PSI: "But....da....OHC....ZOMG...too many real facts...hp/l...nooooo...." BOOM - head explodes.:bomb:
Toyota is shit.
350Z's are shit.
/thread.

OK, just to clarify, 14.48 IS LESS THAN 14.7/14.8. So that would make the previous posters Denali QUICKER than a similar Tundra.

I know your math is terrible as proven earlier in this thread, but that is pretty simple.

No! The fastest stock Tundra, of any configuration, is a 13.8 at 98mph, which is more than 4 sec faster than your Denali.

I know your comprehension level is 0, but read the article I posted. It is not the fastest truck nor does it tow more than the Tundra. Despite being 400lbs heavier, it is still faster.

45PSI: "But....da....OHC....ZOMG...too many real facts...hp/l...nooooo...." BOOM - head explodes.:bomb:
Toyota is shit.
350Z's are shit.
/thread.


JD AMG "But ...... da.....OMG my truck has a 4 speed column shift.......but next year it wont......but da.... wow.....hp/ltr.......pushrod boom but what happen......da.....but it has pushrod and 4 speed

Truth of the matter is Toyota dosent really give a shit that a Chevrolet is towing a show car trailer they have as much to do with it as anyone on the website does.. If they offered a HD line then im sure it would be pulled by a Toyota....however the rigs like that one pictured are contracted through various promotion companys.. Toyota Ford who the hell ever to drag their shit around the country, they dont own the truck or trailer.I did it for 2 years towing a chevrolet race car with......GASP....... a Ford dually...

Truth of the matter is Toyota dosent really give a shit that a Chevrolet is towing a show car trailer they have as much to do with it as anyone on the website does.. If they offered a HD line then im sure it would be pulled by a Toyota....however the rigs like that one pictured are contracted through various promotion companys.. Toyota Ford who the hell ever to drag their shit around the country, they dont own the truck or trailer.I did it for 2 years towing a chevrolet race car with......GASP....... a Ford dually...

Agreed

No!
So it isnt faster than a SIMILAR Tundra?

Your math really does suck.

Aslo, you forgot the decimal (it would be .4, not 4 full seconds), not to mention your lack of math skills coming up with the 4 to begin with.

So it isnt faster than a SIMILAR Tundra?

Your math really does suck.

Aslo, you forgot the decimal (it would be .4, not 4 full seconds), not to mention your lack of math skills coming up with the 4 to begin with.

Meant to say 4 mph faster.

And No, once again, read the article.


"""And when testing the all new Hot Rodded 2007 GMC Sierra Denali with a 403hp/417lb-ft trq 6.2L with a 6sp auto, this is what they had to say:

"this 5,309-pound two-wheel-drive truck hauls to 60 mph in just 6.5 seconds and rips through the quarter-mile in 15.0 seconds at 92.1 mph".

"But the GMC Sierra Denali is not the quickest truck on the market. That title is held by the new Toyota Tundra with its 381-hp, 5.7-liter V8. In our testing, the four-wheel-drive Tundra Double Cab pounds to 60 mph in just 6.3 seconds and runs the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds at 93.7 mph, even though it weighs 328 pounds more than the Sierra Denali.
Sometimes power isn't enough to guarantee dominance. Or maybe either GMC or Toyota or both are wrong about the power numbers they're publishing."
Full Test: 2007 GMC Sierra Denali


http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...8/pageNumber=1


^ plain as day.

So it isnt faster than a SIMILAR Tundra?

Your math really does suck.

Aslo, you forgot the decimal (it would be .4, not 4 full seconds), not to mention your lack of math skills coming up with the 4 to begin with.

Also..

Agreed

I didnt know you knew how to agree. Maybe you should offer to tow it for them after you drop off your boxes. You do tow 14000 lbs EVERY SINGLE DAY. Mayne they should break it down into 2 smaller trailers to help Toyota out. If they are going to talk all the smack they do in their ads they should back it up in real life.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b256/ChrisHeidiMcKenzie/scan0002.jpg

Plain, as, day.

(Just trying to use as many commas as you do.)

Meant to say 4 mph faster.

And No, once again, read the article.


"""And when testing the all new Hot Rodded 2007 GMC Sierra Denali with a 403hp/417lb-ft trq 6.2L with a 6sp auto, this is what they had to say:

"this 5,309-pound two-wheel-drive truck hauls to 60 mph in just 6.5 seconds and rips through the quarter-mile in 15.0 seconds at 92.1 mph".

"But the GMC Sierra Denali is not the quickest truck on the market. That title is held by the new Toyota Tundra with its 381-hp, 5.7-liter V8. In our testing, the four-wheel-drive Tundra Double Cab pounds to 60 mph in just 6.3 seconds and runs the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds at 93.7 mph, even though it weighs 328 pounds more than the Sierra Denali.
Sometimes power isn't enough to guarantee dominance. Or maybe either GMC or Toyota or both are wrong about the power numbers they're publishing."
Full Test: 2007 GMC Sierra Denali


http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...8/pageNumber=1


^ plain as day.

Since, when, does, 1.6=4?

Plain, as, day.

(Just trying to use as many commas as you do.)

What does that prove. Still slower than a Tundra. So whats your point?

You keep trying to use the 400 lb heavier argument, but then you compare the RCSB 2wd Tundra to a CC 4wd Denali.

What does that prove. Still slower than a Tundra. So whats your point?

It proves that it is faster than a CREW MAX Tundra. Apples to Apples.

Since, when, does, 1.6=4?

You said any configured Tundra. And the fastest Tundra is a 13.8. Secondly, look at the weight of the vehicles. The Tundra is 328lbs heavier, yet still runs a faster time. This tells me:

1) Tundra is underated
2) Denali is overated

You choose!

It proves that it is faster than a CREW MAX Tundra. Apples to Apples.

No, once again, it was compared to a Double Cab in the article. IT even gave the Denali a weight advantage and it still was slower. Hell, it cant even tow more than 8500lb's lol

You said any configured Tundra. And the fastest Tundra is a 13.8. Secondly, look at the weight of the vehicles. The Tundra is 328lbs heavier, yet still runs a faster time. This tell me:

1) Tundra is underated
2) Denali is overated

You choose!
No, I said a similarly configured Tundra. The Tundra that ran 13.8 is not heavier, choose one side or the other.

1) You cant read
2) You are just that dumb

It proves that it is faster than a CREW MAX Tundra. Apples to Apples.

The Crewmax is even heavier than the Double Cab Tundra by another 200lbs. The DC Tundra and the Denali is the real comparison.

No, once again, it was compared to a Double Cab in the article. IT even gave the Denali a weight advantage and it still was slower. Hell, it cant even tow more than 8500lb's lol

I didnt quote a article, I quoted a time slip. You said what the best time for a crew max tundra was, and this is quicker.

I didnt quote a article, I quoted a time slip. You said what the best time for a crew max tundra was, and this is quicker.

Why are you comparing a truck, that is 500+lbs heavier? We are talking about two similar trucks, that are close in weight. And this is the Double Cab Tundra and the Denali. The same two vehicles that Edmonds compared. Whats is so hard about that? Even the Double Cab is 300+lbs heavier, than your precious Denali, but guess what, it loses!

Why are you comparing a truck, that is 500+lbs heavier? We are talking about two similar trucks, that are close in weight. And this is the Double Cab Tundra and the Denali. The same two vehicles that Edmonds compared. Whats is so hard about that? Even the Double Cab is 300+lbs heavier, than your precious Denali, but guess what, it loses!

Because a crew cab is the same as a crew max. Its not GMC's fault that the Tundra is so heavy.
Why are you comparing a truck with a 4.30 gear to one with a 3.42?

It doesnt matter anyway, the 14.48 is still faster than the double cab.

Because a crew cab is the same as a crew max. Its not GMC's fault that the Tundra is so heavy.
Why are you comparing a truck with a 4.30 gear to one with a 3.42?

It doesnt matter anyway, the 14.48 is still faster than the double cab.

O boy, no its not the same. You just cant face the facts can you? Get over it, read the article and let it marinate.

The Tundra is heavier, since it was designed to be a 3/4 ton truck. Hence the reason why it says 3/4 on the Title's and the reason why CR decided to test it against the Desiels. Its pathetic, that the Denali can only tow 8500lbs. I rate that right up there with the Tacama :D. Enjoy your column shifting 4 speed 16sec truck. Goodnite!

Toyota selling Cavaliers. Toyota using a Chevy to pull their shit. I will let you guys decide.


Lock this before it gets worse.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/CACressida/T3.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/CACressida/T2.jpg



http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/CACressida/T1.jpg


That was over 10k lbs bails of PP Plastic(trailor is 5k). Each bail weigh 1000-1200lbs. Thats what I haul on a daily basis, no problems whatsoever.

Send those pictures to the Toyota execs asap!! Maybe they didn't realize that their toys can tow their race trailers and they need to be informed, since that WAS the original topic here. You also compared the towing of a Tundra to the Duramax earlier because of some drag "race" pulling 8000 pounds....Forward that "test" with such valuable results on to Japan too since you seem to regard the opinions of magazines so highly.

basically, i'm bored at 3 a.m.
carry on.

I love products whose components are assembled in countries that pay their employees a yearly salary comparable to the amount of coins in my couch cushions! Hurray cheap labor! Hurry sweat shops! Hurray communism!

A celebration in light of all the people that had to die and/or be stepped on in the last 20 years in order to build the means to copy and/or create foreign products so they could be dumped into the USA at super low prices!

Sorry to cut the celebration short but I need to run to the super market and stock up on more lead-tainted toys to chew on before I go import-car-shopping!

/sarcasm, puking, frustration

http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/16/autos/cr_reliability/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote

Wow, even cr says the tundra's reliability is shit.

None of this really matters because the discontinued SRT10 or Lightning will annihilate a Tundra in the quarter. Don't even get me started on the Roush and Saleen F150's...

Besides, everyone is right, trim for trim, the 4door Denali is the better truck. Period. Not only does it have better performanc, it also has an even better version of the already superb truck interior. Game over.

Oh wait, I've got an awesome Idea! Let's compare the 4.7L Tundra with its DOHC FURY against the "tired old pushrod 4.8L" version of the Silverado. ANY TRIM. That's right, ladies and gentleman, every version of the Tundra that doesn't have a 5.7L V8 sucks balls.

I love products whose components are assembled in countries that pay their employees a yearly salary comparable to the amount of coins in my couch cushions! Hurray cheap labor! Hurry sweat shops! Hurray communism!

A celebration in light of all the people that had to die and/or be stepped on in the last 20 years in order to build the means to copy and/or create foreign products so they could be dumped into the USA at super low prices!

Sorry to cut the celebration short but I need to run to the super market and stock up on more lead-tainted toys to chew on before I go import-car-shopping!

/sarcasm, puking, frustration

haha :D

Anyways, how is GM ancient because they use pushrods? Last time I checked the super modern CVT was invented before 1900. OHCs are ancient. DOHC. heh.... Alum blocks? Think the Wright brothers convered that one long before the Automotive market even thought about it.

Enjoy your column shifting 4 speed 16sec truck. Goodnite!

And you can enjoy your SR5 Turdra that doesn't have shit for options. Goodnight.:engarde:

O boy, no its not the same. You just cant face the facts can you? Get over it, read the article and let it marinate.

The Tundra is heavier, since it was designed to be a 3/4 ton truck. Hence the reason why it says 3/4 on the Title's and the reason why CR decided to test it against the Desiels. Its pathetic, that the Denali can only tow 8500lbs. I rate that right up there with the Tacama :D. Enjoy your column shifting 4 speed 16sec truck. Goodnite!

wow.... compare a Tundra to 3/4 ton diesels (p.s. this is how you spell diesel) I bet you believe it compares pretty well to them too :eyes: and I am curious as to why you chose a gas powered truck if your constantly towing and pulling these heavy containers up see-saw rigs from a dead stop, wait that was the commercial :bang: but wouldn't a diesel fit your needs a little better?

None of this really matters because the discontinued SRT10 or Lightning will annihilate a Tundra in the quarter. Don't even get me started on the Roush and Saleen F150's...

Besides, everyone is right, trim for trim, the 4door Denali is the better truck. Period. Not only does it have better performanc, it also has an even better version of the already superb truck interior. Game over.

Oh wait, I've got an awesome Idea! Let's compare the 4.7L Tundra with its DOHC FURY against the "tired old pushrod 4.8L" version of the Silverado. ANY TRIM. That's right, ladies and gentleman, every version of the Tundra that doesn't have a 5.7L V8 sucks balls.

Actually you are wrong about the lightning. The RC Tundra, runs pretty much even with a stock lightning. Check the videos.

http://s170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/turboex01/?action=view&current=MOV00949-1.flv


That is a stock Tundra, vs a Lightning with intake, exhaust and a tune.

wow.... compare a Tundra to 3/4 ton diesels (p.s. this is how you spell diesel) I bet you believe it compares pretty well to them too :eyes: and I am curious as to why you chose a gas powered truck if your constantly towing and pulling these heavy containers up see-saw rigs from a dead stop, wait that was the commercial :bang: but wouldn't a diesel fit your needs a little better?

I didnt compare them to a diesel, the magazines choose too. Edmunds, Car&Driver and CR all show the Tundra to perform better when towing 8000lbs! It accelerated faster, brake faster and simply out performed the 2500 Duramax, 250 Ford and Dodge Cummings.

There hasnt been significant data showing the longeivity of gas vs diesels when pulling heavy equipment. I know its not a diesel, but it performs well for what I am doing.

Talked to a guy who delivers to the Toyota assembly plant and he says the employee parking lot is full of mostly Ford and Chevy trucks. Yep, get paid by the Japanese and spend your money on an American truck:engarde:!

I didnt compare them to a diesel, the magazines choose too. Edmunds, Car&Driver and CR all show the Tundra to perform better when towing 8000lbs! It accelerated faster, brake faster and simply out performed the 2500 Duramax, 250 Ford and Dodge Cummings.

There hasnt been significant data showing the longeivity of gas vs diesels when pulling heavy equipment. I know its not a diesel, but it performs well for what I am doing.

please show me the facts saying that the Tundra 'simply outperforms' all 3 diesels?? My ASS !! You have your head so far up Toyo's ass its ridiculous

Actually you are wrong about the lightning. The RC Tundra, runs pretty much even with a stock lightning. Check the videos.

http://s170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/turboex01/?action=view&current=MOV00949-1.flv


That is a stock Tundra, vs a Lightning with intake, exhaust and a tune.

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/3082/short-take-ford-svt-f-150-lightning.html

13.8 @ 104 from Car And Driver. And we all know those magazine guys cant drive. Dragtimes.com has a stock one listed as 13.37, and the best they show a Tundra is 13.9.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-F150-Lightning-Timeslip-10773.html

"Completely stock the way it rolled off the showroom floor" 13.37@102

please show me the facts saying that the Tundra 'simply outperforms' all 3 diesels?? My ASS !! You have your head so far up Toyo's ass its ridiculous

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/news/miscnews/cr073.html


"The Tundra beat all the heavy duty diesel pickups in CR’s 0 to 60-mph acceleration tests towing the 7,400-pounds trailer. The three-quarter-ton acceleration tests appear to have similar results to what we found during our recent Heavy Duty Shootout, which was done testing one-ton diesels.""'

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/3082/short-take-ford-svt-f-150-lightning.html

13.8 @ 104 from Car And Driver. And we all know those magazine guys cant drive. Dragtimes.com has a stock one listed as 13.37, and the best they show a Tundra is 13.9.

I just showed you a video of what a stock Tundra did against a modified Lightning

I just showed you a video of what a stock Tundra did against a modified Lightning

Internet videos prove NOTHING. Can you prove that the trucks in the video are what they say? Stock, modded, other? Driver quality? I could post videos of my Z28 claiming it is stock, but that doesnt mean anything. Truth is that people have gone as fast as 13.1x in a stock lightning, can you say the same for a Tundra?

No I cant go that fast in mine, since it isnt a RC. I didnt say the Tundra was faster than a Lightning, I said it has the potential to hang with one, meaning a fairly good race. People have run 13.8 without the use of a blower.

These trucks are automatic. Meaning there is less chance of driver error. The point I was trying to make is, that the runs were pretty close, despite a bolt on Lightning vs a stock Tundra.

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/news/miscnews/cr073.html


"The Tundra beat all the heavy duty diesel pickups in CR’s 0 to 60-mph acceleration tests towing the 7,400-pounds trailer. The three-quarter-ton acceleration tests appear to have similar results to what we found during our recent Heavy Duty Shootout, which was done testing one-ton diesels.""'

it seems like all you care about is 0-60 times and the 1/4 mile (hince your other argument regarding the lightning and SRT10 which are clearly faster) ... Maybe your forgetting that those diesels weigh at least a 1000 pounds more than a tundra and those diesels blow out any 1/2 ton (including the tundra) in towing. don't kid yourself

There hasnt been significant data showing the longeivity of gas vs diesels when pulling heavy equipment

you might want to check up on that, longevity on a diesel smashes any gas engine.... I would think especially under continuous heavy loads

you might want to check up on that, longevity on a diesel smashes any gas engine.... I would think especially under continuous heavy loads

Yeah, really. Million mile engine rebuilds on big rigs is nothing to sneeze at.

Also the service intervals even on light truck diesels are getting longer. 400,000 miles on a light truck diesel in very common without an rebuild, and those are trucks that are getting used for their purpose.

LOL, what took you so long. :punch: j/k You know I like to stir the pot. Honestly, its nice to see GM on the positive side again.

See ya Chris! :wavey:

See ya Chris! :wavey:

OH thank god!!!!!!!:chug:

See ya Chris! :wavey:

damn, I'm really going to miss him :thefinger


thank you unit :nod:

what a stupid thread.

I was just about to post where the 6.0 Silverado beat the diesels to 80 loaded as well.
Gearing and well... your mileage goes to everloving shit doing it, unlike a diesel where you can actually enjoy decent mileage.

damn, I'm really going to miss him :thefinger


thank you unit :nod:
Yes, unit THANK YOU for having mercy on us! :jest:
I sense that "Chrissy" is trying for the LS1TECH ban record. :lol: What is the record now, like 10 bans or something? Is there a limit until a "permaban" is handed down??

Maybe A 1000hp Supra Should Pull It Lmao


But Seriously Toyota Dont Make A Truck That Can Haul That So Mine As Well Buy A Chevy Diesel

Maybe A 1000hp Supra Should Pull It Lmao


But Seriously Toyota Dont Make A Truck That Can Haul That So Mine As Well Buy A Chevy Diesel

Why are you capitalizing every word? Makes it really hard to read. Please reread what you type before submiting anything

Why are you capitalizing every word? Makes it really hard to read. Please reread what you type before submiting anything

shut up noob its becase i had my capslock on nooby

Not to be a jerk but caps help out with naming files. ThisFileHere.exe vs thisfilehere.exe. I didn't find it that unlegable.

No one around here EVER gets permabanned. I swear. You can be a real bastard and get away with almost anything. The mods try but they have to be fair. I will have to stick up for the mods though. They are fair and they let you know the boundaries before instanstly kicking people out.

shut up noob its becase i had my capslock on nooby

The guy with 6 posts calling the guy with 2 a noob, that is irony.

When the caps lock is on the site changes it to first letter caps automatically.