Stereo & Electronics - New Sub Setup in my WS6
69z-28
09-30-2007, 10:28 AM
well ive had two 15" Elemental Designs 16ov's for the last few months running off a single JBL BP1200.1. so i finally got another amp to match, and moved the subs. this is how it used to be.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6/DSCN1803.jpg
i built a rear seat delete which still needs a face to cover up all the supports and whatnot underneath, but right now it functions for what i need it for(holding subs).
also did big 3 upgrade under the hood, ran another 4 ga wire and built some amp racks. my nitrous bottle will be mounted between the amps, and i will be upgrading to 2 18"s soon hopefully. i wanna do ported so bad, but i really dont think there is any room. right now the subs are tuned to about 800 RMS each and the lights dance like crazy still after the wiring upgrade. i still have more crap to do and mount everything but heres pics from the install last night...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6%20work/Battery.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6%20work/Wiring.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6%20work/Subback.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6%20work/System_3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6%20work/System_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6%20work/System_1.jpg
Dimitri-
09-30-2007, 01:07 PM
Ehh.. im sure its bumpin.. car looks nice, interior is an eyesore though, seems like overkill for sound :/
95bat
09-30-2007, 03:56 PM
Hide those wires!
Mike @ FbodyAudio
09-30-2007, 04:41 PM
fuse holder under the hood is way to far from the battery. Try to keep it within 18" for safety reasons. Other then that, looks good.
69z-28
09-30-2007, 06:59 PM
thanks for comments and suggestions. theres still lots more to do, but heres some more progress from today...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6/DSCN2053.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6/DSCN2057.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6/DSCN2056.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6/DSCN2058.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/matta27x/WS6/DSCN2059.jpg
John02Hawk
09-30-2007, 07:03 PM
I bet it sounds killer!
..how much does that box and two subs weigh though?
00SS!
09-30-2007, 07:07 PM
Holy crap! That must be deafening!!
transaman98
09-30-2007, 07:34 PM
you probably need the bottle to get the lead sled moving!!
Sunset'01Z
09-30-2007, 10:23 PM
yah dude that's slight overkill lol..
1 10" sub did plenty for me, and it fit well down in the rear hatch. just get 1 really good sub/amp and you wont need all of that.
95bat
09-30-2007, 10:31 PM
one 10 would never satisfy my bass needs :D
MEZA TA
09-30-2007, 11:13 PM
Damn! I'd rather keep my backseat but to each his own. I recently took my probox out and it makes a BIG difference as far as acceleration and gas mileage.
transambandit
10-01-2007, 03:05 AM
Im going to fab up on of these as soon as my shoulder heals, its going to be slightly different, im going to make it smaller and the amps are getting mounted on a rear subthump.com amp rack i got for 25 bucks. Also im going to mount my xbox right next to it.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/ls1bandit/subbox.jpg
I am also debating on putting 2 6x9's where the amps are mounted since i dont have any rear hatch speakers in my 94. But who knows.
TurboDSMJ
10-01-2007, 03:49 AM
Looks good, I have a 10'' in my SS for kicks. I thought that was loud enough, man you are nuts haha.
69z-28
10-01-2007, 10:11 AM
box and 2 subs weighs a bit over a hundo. very easy to pull out tho anytime.
and the car ran a 12.5 at 117 the day before i did this, so i felt content enough to add weight.
they sound pretty wicked, i had some dude pull over in front of me cause he thought i was flashing him, really it was just every bass note, pullin my car past 13 volts.haha
id still like to figure out a way to port these suckers or my ultimate plan, port 2 18"s, same subs, sub 18s instead of 15s. i know for sure that will take work and be damn near impossible. however it could work.
Chadlee2KZ
10-01-2007, 10:17 AM
too much going on imo. I really like the look of the stealth boxes.
95bat
10-01-2007, 10:18 AM
Just gotta find the right size aero port, will be your easiest option at this point.
pentavolvo
10-01-2007, 10:45 AM
i just love the massive quantity of power wire running through the right side where the rear seat belt was
WhiteBird00
10-01-2007, 01:56 PM
Well...a set of dubs and lots of decals all over should make you feel right at home in "da hood". :lol:
69z-28
10-01-2007, 02:17 PM
Well...a set of dubs and lots of decals all over should make you feel right at home in "da hood". :lol:
a dick in your mouth should make you feel right at home in "your kinda hood" :D
sometimes i wonder why people who think big systems in an fbody are stupid, even come into this section.
i dont go into the 9 second car section and tell people what they should be doing differently...
transambandit, thats a nice looking setup, i would prolly say dont do the 6x9s in the back, i dont run any hatch speakers. most cars can easily do 4 nice speakers off a 2 or 4 channel and not need anything else for mids and highs.
thanks for that info Mike, theres a lot of stuff that prolly wouldnt hold up well in a competition, (no cap etc.) but it works for me and so far havent had a problem. i will take that into consideration tho.
FYI to everyone, i started with a single 12", then 2 12"s then the 2 12"s off nicer amp and they couldnt take the power, at least not what i wanted to give them.lol. then i got these running off a single JBL, and it was clipping mad, now i have this. some think its too much, i personally think its just what i need, possibly not enough still. i might go ported if i can fit a box/ 2 single boxes to conserve space, all tho idk yet. if anyone is wondering, all this crap can be removed from the car in about 2 minutes. the only permanent thing really is the rear seat delete which i can take out if i need to, however i dont ever plan on doing so. i also never used the back seat and needed a different place to fire the subs instead of directly into the glass.
WhiteBird00
10-02-2007, 09:15 AM
Watch your mouth boy. When you post pictures and invite comments, don't get pissed when others don't always like what you've done. If you can't take some teasing then don't ask for opinions.
SparkyJJO
10-02-2007, 10:06 AM
<verizon guy>
Can you hear me now? I said, can you hear me now? CAN - YOU - HEAR - ME - NOW?!?! WHAT!??! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!
</verizon guy>
:jest:
69z-28
10-02-2007, 11:13 AM
Watch your mouth boy. When you post pictures and invite comments, don't get pissed when others don't always like what you've done. If you can't take some teasing then don't ask for opinions.
i never asked for oppinions. im posting for others to see not ridicule. put your 12 inch e-wang back in your pants and GTFO.
WhiteBird00
10-02-2007, 12:07 PM
i never asked for oppinions. im posting for others to see not ridicule. put your 12 inch e-wang back in your pants and GTFO.Okay, I've tried to be polite but now I will be more direct. Watch your mouth or you will find yourself taking a forced vacation from this forum.
Do I make myself clear? (a simple yes or no is all I expect to hear from you)
Shockwave179
10-02-2007, 06:41 PM
Okay, I've tried to be polite but now I will be more direct. Watch your mouth or you will find yourself taking a forced vacation from this forum.
Do I make myself clear? (a simple yes or no is all I expect to hear from you)
I think your being a tad bit ridiculous for someone that's a mod. Your supposed to be the person that deals with drama, not invoke it.
But whatever I think people doing stuff like this (car audio projects) on their own is neat.
phantomzer0
10-02-2007, 06:46 PM
I think your being a tad bit ridiculous for someone that's a mod. Your supposed to be the person that deals with drama, not invoke it.
And what are you adding to the conversation? Just because we are moderators doesn't mean we can't have a little fun. The post that was made by my WhiteBird was in good fun and completely viable. It's an age old rule for using a forum. Post pics and you will get opinions. How dumb would it be if you said "Check out my pics, but please don't reply. If you do though, only post comments I will like"
Give me a break. Telling a mod to stick a dick in his mouth is out of line. Anyone else that wants to add to the flame can join the vacation.
Well...a set of dubs and lots of decals all over should make you feel right at home in "da hood". :lol:
BTW - Smilies set the tone of a post. Obviously this smiley means he was JOKING...
69z-28
10-02-2007, 07:47 PM
im not even getting into this, but for the record... i used a smiley in my post too...
phantomzer0
10-02-2007, 08:33 PM
Ok, so let's just end it and move on.
KEE AUDIO
10-02-2007, 09:10 PM
Let's just all take a step back, take a deep breath and stare at phantoms avatar for a moment or 2!!! I feel better already!! LOL!! I suddenly have a deep desire to have a milkshake!!
thosewhohatedmecreat
10-02-2007, 09:29 PM
While I am sure the car is loud, it looks like poo.
BTW. I love the mods on this forum. They are fuckin FUNNY! I couldnt stop laughing at how hard they owned that guy hahahaha
02Z28LS1
10-04-2007, 10:56 AM
i'm sure you already know this, but bigger doesn't always mean better (or louder).
there's no need to go up to 18's, unless you just wanna prove that dual 18's can be done in an f-body.
if loud is what you're going for, just get you a couple of JL Audio 13w7's powered by about 1000 - 1500 watts each, and you'll be doing good not to blow the back glass out of the car
69z-28
10-04-2007, 12:12 PM
two 18s would deff be louder, i could supply them more power and not worry about the physical limits of the sub and it would move more air, meaning louder and more depth. with shitty tuning, ya you can have a single sub make rain compared to 2 15s with shitty tuning or a bad box design/placement. however i know 2 18s would be an upgrade.
if i do decide to move to a smaller but more performance sub, i would go with Elemental's new 13av. its comparable to a W7 but at a fraction of the price. although at that point i would need to upgrade from my BP1200s to some bigger shit, and then im outa my range for cost. so far ive spent less than 1200 bucks on my entire stereo, and theres nothing i havent touched in it yet, moving to some better subs and more powerful amps might be more efficient and could deff get louder, i would easily drop another 1k for that, whereas upgrading to 2 18s realistically costs me about 50 bucks worth of wood.
95bat
10-05-2007, 10:15 AM
i'm sure you already know this, but bigger doesn't always mean better (or louder).
there's no need to go up to 18's, unless you just wanna prove that dual 18's can be done in an f-body.
if loud is what you're going for, just get you a couple of JL Audio 13w7's powered by about 1000 - 1500 watts each, and you'll be doing good not to blow the back glass out of the car
hahahaha two 13w7s will not blow the glass out of a car.
All other things being equal, bigger is always better :) I think two 18s in an f-body would be sweet. Of course it will look like ass, but you can't exactly make a clean setup in our tiny cars with 18" speakers.
wickedbusa
10-05-2007, 05:41 PM
Im going to fab up on of these as soon as my shoulder heals, its going to be slightly different, im going to make it smaller and the amps are getting mounted on a rear subthump.com amp rack i got for 25 bucks. Also im going to mount my xbox right next to it.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/ls1bandit/subbox.jpg
I am also debating on putting 2 6x9's where the amps are mounted since i dont have any rear hatch speakers in my 94. But who knows.
Hey that's my car!!!:D
transambandit
10-05-2007, 08:27 PM
Hey that's my car!!!:D
Well im going to be building a similar one soon, you have any tips for me?
dragonrage
10-05-2007, 11:47 PM
I'll stick to stealthboxes. Can't see why anyone would do a back seat box.
pentavolvo
10-06-2007, 01:46 AM
I'll stick to stealthboxes. Can't see why anyone would do a back seat box.
To make it rain... honestly though some people just dont care about the back seat and want something custom to them
wickedbusa
10-06-2007, 04:45 AM
Well im going to be building a similar one soon, you have any tips for me?
I wish I could help you out and give you some pointers, but I bought the car with the system in it already. Whoever had it before me went to great extents to make everything in the car look factory installed. The doors have MB Quart separates with the tweeters installed in the panel next to the side view mirrors, and the sail panel woofers have been replaced with MB Quarts and tweeters mounted above the heads of the rear passengers. The sub isn't anything big, it's just a 10 inch Fosgate. The system isn't loud as in bass, but the sound is VERY balanced, sharp, and precise. The bass hits hard enough for rap music, but never drowns out the actual music like some dual 12 inch systems I have heard. There is actually a cover on my custom box that hides the amps and the sub so no one can tell what it is from the outside. My HU is an Alpine TDA-7563 with a subwoofer equalizer mounted above it. I have an Alpine 12 CD changer installed in the factory location in the trunk. My system is designed more for SQ than SPL.