11 Second Club - What 60' will I need to hit 11s.
The LT1 That Could
11-24-2007, 01:51 PM
Car has a stock converter now and has gone...
12.24 @ 119.93 - 2.08 60' on the 150 shot
12.48 @ 116.32 - 2.07 60' on the 100 shot
Will be throwing a PI Vig 3600 in it soon. Trying to get an estimate of what the car needs to 60' to get into the 11s. How much MPH should I expect to lose. I will still be running the 3.42 gear.
I have seen people squeaking into the 11.9x range with 1.6 short times, and around 113-115mph. Just wanted to get some opinions.
Thanks!
Red 01SS
11-24-2007, 03:01 PM
low 1.8's to high 1.7's should do the trick
Travose21
11-24-2007, 06:32 PM
1.5-1.6 will put you close to 10 with that mph
flip888
11-24-2007, 09:13 PM
Its awesome to see LT1s trapping that high. Ive heard that .1 off your 60' lowers your et by .2 sec on average. If you hit a 1.6 60' 11s are easy.
GT Griller
11-24-2007, 10:38 PM
Its awesome to see LT1s trapping that high. Ive heard that .1 off your 60' lowers your et by .2 sec on average. If you hit a 1.6 60' 11s are easy.
Thats not necesarily true...atleast not in my case......But Beau dont worry about it man....the stall change alone will get u into the 11's easy on the 150's and prolly 11.90's-12.0's on the 100's.
donkey mule
11-24-2007, 11:22 PM
If you get the car to hook with the new stall you should be able to hit at least an 11.8.
chrismorales75
11-25-2007, 12:31 AM
With that much mph I would think you'd only have to run a 1.9 60 ft to break into the 11's.
The LT1 That Could
11-25-2007, 02:43 PM
haha, thats what I was thinking. If i can just get the car to spray sometime b4 100' out, like now, I should be okay, lol.
thanks for the input everyone!
joelster
11-25-2007, 04:54 PM
119.93 is a cakewalk for 11's. Go borrow some damn slicks already and run some 11.2's
The LT1 That Could
11-25-2007, 06:51 PM
Oh its got plenty of tire, lol. That pass was made on a 275/50/15 M/T ET Street Radial. Car sits on 26x11.5x15 Hoosier QTP DOTs now. It has always been on a drag radial or street slick, just launches like a damned power wheel....thats low on battery, ha!
video for reference, this was me spraying the car with window switch set to activate at 3200 rpm....
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=6941525
tripblackls1
11-25-2007, 07:35 PM
hey what did that truck run lol
1_bad_TA
11-25-2007, 07:37 PM
high 1.60's
The LT1 That Could
11-25-2007, 09:04 PM
hey what did that truck run lol
Truck
.036 Light
1.899 60'
5.552 330'
8.684 1/8
78.19 MPH
11.422 1000'
13.762 1/4
96.06 MPH
Me
.075 Light :(
2.087 60'
5.443 330'
8.098 1/8
93.06 MPH
10.355 1000'
12.241 1/4
119.93 MPH
He treed and 60'd me, but I had a tenth or so on him by 330' and just kept pulling. MOV was 1.4827
You can see my car spit out black smoke and haze the tires a bit then squat, shit and get, right about the point when my car is blocked by the truck. It's funny that car launched harder 100' out, than it does from the line, lol.
SSmoken
11-26-2007, 12:51 AM
my best is and 11.71 with a 1.9 60ft. You should be well into the 11's with a couple tenths off that 60ft.
chrismorales75
11-27-2007, 11:09 PM
2.08 60ft? damn that thing took off like a turtle with two broken legs :jest:
You're spraying the car on a drag radial, bias ply tire and that's as fast as it will go?
I think something else is wrong in the car, you sure the tran/converter isn't f'd up?
It should be leaving a lot harder, how long till you get the new converter? Are you on the stock converter now? It might be "pushing through the converter", I.E. like a clutch slipping in an auto. with that much MPH you should be running 1.5 60ft's all day.
The LT1 That Could
11-29-2007, 04:44 PM
2.08 60ft? damn that thing took off like a turtle with two broken legs :jest:
You're spraying the car on a drag radial, bias ply tire and that's as fast as it will go?
I think something else is wrong in the car, you sure the tran/converter isn't f'd up?
It should be leaving a lot harder, how long till you get the new converter? Are you on the stock converter now? It might be "pushing through the converter", I.E. like a clutch slipping in an auto. with that much MPH you should be running 1.5 60ft's all day.Nothing wrong with the car, other than it having a 130K mile stock motor, stock verter and stock suspension. I have the window switch set to 3200, and with me launching at 1200, it just leaves like a turd. Car rarely spins the tires unless the track isn't prepped. Trans is in good working order. New verter should be after the 1st of the yr.
GT Griller
11-30-2007, 11:33 AM
U need to pull a Jesse and spray as soon as u feel it hook!!!
RAGENZ28
12-01-2007, 07:37 PM
You should be getting higher than 1200 rpm to stall it up on the foot brake. Even a stock converter should stall close to 2000 rpm. Higher you can leave at and quicker you can get on the n20 the faster it's going to 60 ft.
Even foot braking my car went .3 faster leaving on the n20 right off the bat vs. waiting to get out 15-20 feet.
The LT1 That Could
12-01-2007, 07:45 PM
I have tried to spray the car out of the gate b4, and it doesn't go so well, lol. Backfire FTL!
Who knows, maybe when I had the rebuild done a long time ago on the tranny, I got shafted on the converter and got something that wasn't supposed to be in there.
F It. New one should be in soon.
RIDINFILTHY
12-02-2007, 11:02 AM
converter will fix it all !!!!!
GT Griller
12-02-2007, 07:55 PM
You should be getting higher than 1200 rpm to stall it up on the foot brake. Even a stock converter should stall close to 2000 rpm. Higher you can leave at and quicker you can get on the n20 the faster it's going to 60 ft.
Even foot braking my car went .3 faster leaving on the n20 right off the bat vs. waiting to get out 15-20 feet.
Dont know about that....when i had my stock tranny and stock stall...i was only foot braking 1100 cause at 1200 the tires started to spin...even on BFG DR's.
c0ncEpT
12-03-2007, 02:33 AM
Yeah I was just about to say my car will only footbrake to about 1200 before it spins.
ABA383
12-03-2007, 03:56 PM
Just as a point of reference, I was running 11.30s at that trap with mid 1.5X 60's...I agree that 1.8-1.9 should get you an 11 second run...
--Alan
02 BLK WS6
12-05-2007, 10:18 AM
I was running 11.7x with a 1.7x short time with a stock converter. I run a dry shot so I sprayed off the line and my trap was 116. Same setup, but with a vig3600= 11.43 with a 1.7x 60' spinning trapping 117. Both examples above were on 17'' MT ET Street Radials on a 125 hp. Put 28-11.50 ET Streets= 11.36 with a 1.6x 60' still spinning but on a 150 shot trapping at 119.9.
The LT1 That Could
12-05-2007, 12:15 PM
It sure will be nice to add an ET that matches the MPH to this car. Previously I have done bracket racing, and roll racing on spray, and have surprised quite a few 11 second cars.
Thanks everyone.
joshua cobos
12-07-2007, 09:05 PM
I was running 11.7x with a 1.7x short time with a stock converter. I run a dry shot so I sprayed off the line and my trap was 116. Same setup, but with a vig3600= 11.43 with a 1.7x 60' spinning trapping 117. Both examples above were on 17'' MT ET Street Radials on a 125 hp. Put 28-11.50 ET Streets= 11.36 with a 1.6x 60' still spinning but on a 150 shot trapping at 119.9.
wondering if you or anyone can give helpful info. on how to get my car into the 7's in the 1\8 mile, and 11's in the 1\4 mile. I have a 2000 ws6 it has a procharger D1SC, 60lbs injectors, hot wire fuel kit, MSD wires and plugs, racetronix fuel pump, panhard bar, subframe connectors, drive shaft saftey loop, torque arm. The car dynoed at 500RWHP and 465RWTQ. The internals on the engine are stock and also the rear end is stock. I ran a SLOW 8.30 in the 1\8 mile with a 2.01 60FT time. With this power to the wheels i expected a 7 second car in the 1\8 mile. Do u have any helpful info.! PLEASE
Red 01SS
12-07-2007, 09:42 PM
wondering if you or anyone can give helpful info. on how to get my car into the 7's in the 1\8 mile, and 11's in the 1\4 mile. I have a 2000 ws6 it has a procharger D1SC, 60lbs injectors, hot wire fuel kit, MSD wires and plugs, racetronix fuel pump, panhard bar, subframe connectors, drive shaft saftey loop, torque arm. The car dynoed at 500RWHP and 465RWTQ. The internals on the engine are stock and also the rear end is stock. I ran a SLOW 8.30 in the 1\8 mile with a 2.01 60FT time. With this power to the wheels i expected a 7 second car in the 1\8 mile. Do u have any helpful info.! PLEASE
Yes, learn how to launch your car :D
Roarin_8
12-08-2007, 03:19 AM
wondering if you or anyone can give helpful info. on how to get my car into the 7's in the 1\8 mile, and 11's in the 1\4 mile. I have a 2000 ws6 it has a procharger D1SC, 60lbs injectors, hot wire fuel kit, MSD wires and plugs, racetronix fuel pump, panhard bar, subframe connectors, drive shaft saftey loop, torque arm. The car dynoed at 500RWHP and 465RWTQ. The internals on the engine are stock and also the rear end is stock. I ran a SLOW 8.30 in the 1\8 mile with a 2.01 60FT time. With this power to the wheels i expected a 7 second car in the 1\8 mile. Do u have any helpful info.! PLEASE
Footbrake it off the line. A member on this board had problems getting into the 11s with the procharger also(kept on hitting low 12s) until I told him to footbrake it instead of flashing it , he hit 11.7 @ 123.
Roarin_8
12-08-2007, 03:20 AM
You should be getting higher than 1200 rpm to stall it up on the foot brake. Even a stock converter should stall close to 2000 rpm. Higher you can leave at and quicker you can get on the n20 the faster it's going to 60 ft.
Depends on gearing, with 2.73s you can do that but not with shorter gears, the car is gonna want to push forward on you.
joshua cobos
12-08-2007, 08:15 AM
Footbrake it off the line. A member on this board had problems getting into the 11s with the procharger also(kept on hitting low 12s) until I told him to footbrake it instead of flashing it , he hit 11.7 @ 123.
i saw your video clip of your car making a 1\4 mile run. 12.26 is impressive with those few mods u had! So your car launches hard with that 3800 stall converter. How much did that cost and also is your rear end stock?
Roarin_8
12-09-2007, 12:08 AM
i saw your video clip of your car making a 1\4 mile run. 12.26 is impressive with those few mods u had! So your car launches hard with that 3800 stall converter. How much did that cost and also is your rear end stock?
I got the SS3800 when it first came out so it was 950 at the time, now it runs for 650-750. Yes the rear end is still stock. :nod:
The vid was 12.27 @ 109 at Raceway park in New Jersey, I backed it up the following weekend at Atco Raceway, also in Jersey, with a 12.26 @ 111.7
eric01ss
12-09-2007, 09:41 AM
get a yank ss3600 abd footbrake to 2200
Red 01SS
12-09-2007, 05:55 PM
get a yank ss3600 abd footbrake to 2200
thats got me 1.67's. I'm sure there is more in it, only launched 4 times last year lol
Roarin_8
12-09-2007, 11:22 PM
get a yank ss3600 abd footbrake to 2200
Why so low? Depending on gear and how good the brakes and sticky the tires are, you can footbrake it higher than that, try 3200. I used to footbrake mines at 3500.
GT Griller
12-09-2007, 11:30 PM
Why so low? Depending on gear and how good the brakes and sticky the tires are, you can footbrake it higher than that, try 3200. I used to footbrake mines at 3500.
He doesnt have 2.73's i doubt that he is gonna stall 3500 without a trans brake....with my 3.73's and 3400 stall on Mickey thompsons i could only get ~2600
Roarin_8
12-09-2007, 11:35 PM
He doesnt have 2.73's i doubt that he is gonna stall 3500 without a trans brake....with my 3.73's and 3400 stall on Mickey thompsons i could only get ~2600
Agreed, which was why I said depending on his gearing.
ls1 chevy silverado
12-19-2007, 12:56 AM
yes the converter will 1.55 60ft here
every car is different..1 did a 1.60 60ft & ran 12.06@110.64...I have a nice launch but not enough power(335rwhp) to get me to a 11..I am putting the off-road y-pipe on to see if I can get the 1/2 sec.