Pro Stock John
07-30-2003, 08:23 PM
I'm guessing the guy owns a Chevy dealership too:
http://www.classicchevyandcorvetteshow.com/ssr.htm
http://www.classicchevyandcorvetteshow.com/ssr.htm
Automotive News, Media & Press - First SSR sold to public
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unit213
07-30-2003, 09:07 PM
It would be cool having the first production car sold (to the public). I'm not a fan of the SSR at all though. Great motor however!
deviate42
07-30-2003, 09:07 PM
:barf:
not for me
not for me
SNAXS
07-30-2003, 09:23 PM
I guess I kinda have to get used to the shape..Kinda when like the Avalanche front came out on the Silverado's I didnt like it but now they look pretty good.
minivette
07-30-2003, 10:00 PM
What a fugly something! (I don't want to call it a truck)
DrkPhx
07-30-2003, 10:31 PM
What a fugly something! (I don't want to call it a truck)
I agree. :barf:
I agree. :barf:
10.5 Dave
07-30-2003, 10:42 PM
Bob Mcdorman Chevrolet is 10 minutes from my house.Damn I just drove by there 4 hrs ago.We roofed the Apts in the background.Mr Mcdorman is a corvette nut,he owns probably 50 of them.When I drove by there today they had around 10 ZO6 vettes on the ground.Its cool a local guy has the first one.Too bad its a odd looking space car/truck morph.That truck is probably sitting in the showroom right now.
Crazyquik
07-30-2003, 11:15 PM
The second El Camino, err, SSR, this one, sold for $137k on ebay.
He must really love it because it will never be worth that much as a collector car. Maybe the first Viper is worth this much and will appreciate, not the SSjoke though.
J.
He must really love it because it will never be worth that much as a collector car. Maybe the first Viper is worth this much and will appreciate, not the SSjoke though.
J.
PendragonZ
07-31-2003, 09:14 AM
Wow, I do like the SSR. Seems I'm amongst enemies!
LOnSLO
07-31-2003, 09:32 AM
What in the HELL? I didn't think they were gonna produce that one. F_U_G_L_Y!!!!!!!
GREGGO
07-31-2003, 11:28 AM
Too PT Cruiser'ish for me. The color SUCKS!!!!!
Pro Stock John
07-31-2003, 12:06 PM
What bugs me is that it's only rated to tow 2500 lbs. And the SSR weighs 4700 lbs, it's got less towing capacity than a Trailblazer.
It's neat looking, it is growing on me.
It's neat looking, it is growing on me.
MadIceV8
07-31-2003, 02:34 PM
Wow, I do like the SSR. Seems I'm amongst enemies!
I like it too.
I like it too.
bigMAC
07-31-2003, 03:16 PM
:barf:
PendragonZ
07-31-2003, 03:49 PM
Woohoo, lets drive the nay-sayers off!
LEO
07-31-2003, 05:20 PM
The second El Camino, err, SSR, this one, sold for $137k on ebay.
He must really love it because it will never be worth that much as a collector car. Maybe the first Viper is worth this much and will appreciate, not the SSjoke though.
J.
137K! If this guy would have waited a few more months he could have saved $100K!, off his new El Camino SS. :eek2:
He must really love it because it will never be worth that much as a collector car. Maybe the first Viper is worth this much and will appreciate, not the SSjoke though.
J.
137K! If this guy would have waited a few more months he could have saved $100K!, off his new El Camino SS. :eek2:
DaleMX
07-31-2003, 05:21 PM
Wow, I do like the SSR. Seems I'm amongst enemies!
No, we all like you, we just want to help bring you back to reality.
SSR :barf:
No, we all like you, we just want to help bring you back to reality.
SSR :barf:
Crazyquik
07-31-2003, 05:53 PM
Here's an excerpt from the 09/03 Motor Trend.
" With a base price of $41,995, and fully loaded models ringing the register at up to $47,000 or so, the SSR sounds expensive to us. The Ford Thunderbird, a specialty car with tons of history and appeal, tops out below where the SSR starts-and yet the 'Bird is faltering in the marketplace. Chevrolet's business case is built on sales of 14,000-15,000 units per year at a minimum of 5 years.
Speaking of history and appeal, several Chevy dealers we spoke with like the SSR, but wonder why the company didn't spend its development tab on refurbishing the Camaro. The marketing mavens are working hard to 'create a pedigree' (their words) for the SSR- at the same time GM threw the Camaro/Firebird's 35-year performance heritage off a cliff."
J.
" With a base price of $41,995, and fully loaded models ringing the register at up to $47,000 or so, the SSR sounds expensive to us. The Ford Thunderbird, a specialty car with tons of history and appeal, tops out below where the SSR starts-and yet the 'Bird is faltering in the marketplace. Chevrolet's business case is built on sales of 14,000-15,000 units per year at a minimum of 5 years.
Speaking of history and appeal, several Chevy dealers we spoke with like the SSR, but wonder why the company didn't spend its development tab on refurbishing the Camaro. The marketing mavens are working hard to 'create a pedigree' (their words) for the SSR- at the same time GM threw the Camaro/Firebird's 35-year performance heritage off a cliff."
J.
Pro Stock John
07-31-2003, 06:15 PM
I highly doubt the SSR will sell 15K per year with a base price of $41K.
I sure want to see the Camaro and Firebird come back!!!!!
I sure want to see the Camaro and Firebird come back!!!!!
Crazyquik
07-31-2003, 06:31 PM
Maybe it will sell better than the Marauder.
Over 5000 Marauders were bought sight unseen, preordered. This year, they've sold about 2900; they expected to sell about 15-18k.
Do they just not get it?
J.
Over 5000 Marauders were bought sight unseen, preordered. This year, they've sold about 2900; they expected to sell about 15-18k.
Do they just not get it?
J.
ZeeQuick
07-31-2003, 06:49 PM
Crazyquik, that Motor Trend quote said it all. Nuff said
UGOT8
07-31-2003, 06:52 PM
hm. im wondering what is uglier .. the man who bought that thing or the thing itself.
:eyes:
:eyes:
Pro Stock John
07-31-2003, 07:06 PM
Marauder has been cancelled.
2QuikTA
07-31-2003, 07:49 PM
What i don't get is gm threw out the f-body because it was a "niche" vehicle. Only to bring out a "niche" vehicle :huh: :eyes:
Gev
08-01-2003, 03:06 AM
I dno i like it.
Skelton
08-01-2003, 07:18 PM
:barf:I would drive it before an Assteck though
Venkman
08-01-2003, 09:04 PM
looks like a PT cruiser took a crap :barf:
DriveATransAm
08-01-2003, 11:52 PM
i think its a cool car (truck). much better than the pt cruiser. a step in the right direction for GM.
Slow Z28
08-02-2003, 11:20 PM
base price of 41k? pops picked up his brand new Z06 for 42k? i'll wait a week and save the extra G to pick up the vette. nuff said...
LS1MONSTER
08-04-2003, 04:18 AM
I like it..to pricy though. Just wait till someone gets some mods onto that engine. But yea can't wait to see what kinda bugs it comes with from the factory..condsidering it has that niffy re-tractable top. Should be fun LOL.
mitchntx
08-04-2003, 09:12 AM
Kind of reminds me of a new VW Beetle
Pro Stock John
08-04-2003, 01:43 PM
I read a few more car magazines why hanging at the in-laws.
IMHO the SSR will be a flop. Road & Track think it's a dodo and will follow the Prowler and the Thunderbird.
At $41K base price, 4700 curb weight, and with 2500 lb towing capacity, it's not going to sell the 15,000 units it needs to move in the 2nd year or production to survive. IMHO it's a cumulative pile of crap. Someone at GM should have said "Wait guys, we can't release this, it does not that fast OR PRACTICAL." In my mind for 40 large it needs to be one or the other.
I bet the GTO will be a huge hit, as will the CTS-v, and then we will see Chevy come out with a GTO clone!
IMHO the SSR will be a flop. Road & Track think it's a dodo and will follow the Prowler and the Thunderbird.
At $41K base price, 4700 curb weight, and with 2500 lb towing capacity, it's not going to sell the 15,000 units it needs to move in the 2nd year or production to survive. IMHO it's a cumulative pile of crap. Someone at GM should have said "Wait guys, we can't release this, it does not that fast OR PRACTICAL." In my mind for 40 large it needs to be one or the other.
I bet the GTO will be a huge hit, as will the CTS-v, and then we will see Chevy come out with a GTO clone!
alexWS6
08-04-2003, 06:36 PM
http://www.classicchevyandcorvetteshow.com/images/PIC00020.JPG
How this could be appealing to anyone I dont know.
How this could be appealing to anyone I dont know.
Crazyquik
08-06-2003, 12:08 PM
I bet the GTO will be a huge hit, as will the CTS-v, and then we will see Chevy come out with a GTO clone!
Chevelle?
GM is stuck so deep in internal red tape and stupid business school theories that I don't think they'll ever get to where they could be (the premier automaker in the world). I was recently reading a 1993 issue of Car and Driver, about how all the new brand managers and marketers from grocery store products were supposed to sweep in and change the whole auto industry thru thier marketing savvy. What did it get us, the Malibu and the Aztek.
Brock Yates summed up how I feel about all of GM in one paragraph this month in his editorial in Car and Driver. He was speaking about the Indy 500, and prior to this paragraph, about how Chevrolet has been running a rebadged Oldsmobile engine in thier IRL cars, and the ground pounding they got by Honda and Toyota (in Toyota's rookie year) at Indy.
Sadly, it follows a pattern of half-assed efforts by Chevrolet and GM in many aspects of racing, tracing back to the aborted Corvette SS campaign of 1957 to the Grand Sport shutdown in the mid-1960s to the IMSA GT program in the 1980. The Cadillac debacle at Le Mans from '00 through '02 is the latest disaster. Yes, the Vettes have done well in recent international endurance racing, as long as the Vipers, Ferraris, and the Porsches don'tplay seriously. Chevrolet, beyond the elemental work necssary to refine the ancient pushrod engines for NASCAR, has never devoted the same cost-is-no-object intensity to its racing programs that is commonplace at Toyota and Honda, not to mention Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and Porsche.
While I'm on my soapbox, here is another thing that irks me. When Harley Earl came to town, his first assignment was "design a car that you would like to drive." Wow, what a great revolutionary idea!!! Have designers build cars that they would want to be seen in, not survey the market for 4 years and then make the designers sketch some uninspired, amorphious blob that no one wants to see. Hell, go watch some GM commercials, they almost never show the cars because they aren't worth showing!!!
Toyota recently came out with an updated minivan. Prior to this, they made the cheif designer drive 40,000 miles in the predessesor, so he would have ample time to note and provide fixes and improvements for anything he didn't like in the older one. I highly doubt there are cheif stylist at GM driving around in Malibus, Impalas, Jbodies, Monte Carlos, or Azteks looking for any flaws so they can improve the next model (although they should be forced to as punishment for signing off on these cars).
They just don't get it. If you design a great car, you can tell the marketing staff to go home because they're useless. Its only when you design uninspired shitboxes do you have to "market" them, usually by not even showing them in the commercials, lest you wouldn't want to scare people away.
They want to sell 15,000 SSRs a year. Instead they should try and make the next Monte Carlo as captivating and beholding to the eye, as well as offering performance options, as the 1955 Chevrolet was, a car that sold over a million copies.
J.
Chevelle?
GM is stuck so deep in internal red tape and stupid business school theories that I don't think they'll ever get to where they could be (the premier automaker in the world). I was recently reading a 1993 issue of Car and Driver, about how all the new brand managers and marketers from grocery store products were supposed to sweep in and change the whole auto industry thru thier marketing savvy. What did it get us, the Malibu and the Aztek.
Brock Yates summed up how I feel about all of GM in one paragraph this month in his editorial in Car and Driver. He was speaking about the Indy 500, and prior to this paragraph, about how Chevrolet has been running a rebadged Oldsmobile engine in thier IRL cars, and the ground pounding they got by Honda and Toyota (in Toyota's rookie year) at Indy.
Sadly, it follows a pattern of half-assed efforts by Chevrolet and GM in many aspects of racing, tracing back to the aborted Corvette SS campaign of 1957 to the Grand Sport shutdown in the mid-1960s to the IMSA GT program in the 1980. The Cadillac debacle at Le Mans from '00 through '02 is the latest disaster. Yes, the Vettes have done well in recent international endurance racing, as long as the Vipers, Ferraris, and the Porsches don'tplay seriously. Chevrolet, beyond the elemental work necssary to refine the ancient pushrod engines for NASCAR, has never devoted the same cost-is-no-object intensity to its racing programs that is commonplace at Toyota and Honda, not to mention Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and Porsche.
While I'm on my soapbox, here is another thing that irks me. When Harley Earl came to town, his first assignment was "design a car that you would like to drive." Wow, what a great revolutionary idea!!! Have designers build cars that they would want to be seen in, not survey the market for 4 years and then make the designers sketch some uninspired, amorphious blob that no one wants to see. Hell, go watch some GM commercials, they almost never show the cars because they aren't worth showing!!!
Toyota recently came out with an updated minivan. Prior to this, they made the cheif designer drive 40,000 miles in the predessesor, so he would have ample time to note and provide fixes and improvements for anything he didn't like in the older one. I highly doubt there are cheif stylist at GM driving around in Malibus, Impalas, Jbodies, Monte Carlos, or Azteks looking for any flaws so they can improve the next model (although they should be forced to as punishment for signing off on these cars).
They just don't get it. If you design a great car, you can tell the marketing staff to go home because they're useless. Its only when you design uninspired shitboxes do you have to "market" them, usually by not even showing them in the commercials, lest you wouldn't want to scare people away.
They want to sell 15,000 SSRs a year. Instead they should try and make the next Monte Carlo as captivating and beholding to the eye, as well as offering performance options, as the 1955 Chevrolet was, a car that sold over a million copies.
J.
PendragonZ
08-06-2003, 02:33 PM
Hell, I love the prowler too. Just wish it had a little
more under the hood.
Guy at work just got one, (or just started driving it to work)
and it is just plain sweet!
more under the hood.
Guy at work just got one, (or just started driving it to work)
and it is just plain sweet!