Cheap stall but good?

CARFREAKS · 05-13-2009, 03:11 PM

I'm looking on ebay for a cheap 2,800 -3,200 STALL for my DD. I have a 383 stroker with a lt4 hot cam. The stock gears 2.73s the car should make 385 whp and 405 FTQ plus i have a 150 wet shot. I want it to be very streetable. I do a lot of street racing it may see the track 2 times this year...

What will hold up and not cost much? I didnt want a stall but everyone has told me to get one...
What on ebay would be best? Just looking to spend around $250 - $350.

Thanks

bombebomb · 05-13-2009, 03:15 PM

Cheap, fast, reliable, pick two, you are not going to get a "good" stall for that kind of cash.

Elliott's94Z · 05-13-2009, 03:16 PM

The word "Cheap" is exactly what you will get too. Why half ass a stall? You get what you pay for. My recommendations is to go with either a Yank SS3200 or SS3600. Both great stalls for a DD car. They run about $725 shipped.

CARFREAKS · 05-13-2009, 03:59 PM

I know its hard to get the best of every world but this is my Cheap build and its a DD. I didnt even want a stall. but I have been talked into it. I do know for the lt4 a 3,600 stall is to high. If this was in my favorite camaro then yes I wouldnt cheap out. But its not Its in my sleeper camaro. I heard some of the ebay stalls are oK and hold up.

It doesnt need to be killer for the strip so if I had to pick 2 it would be reliable and cheap.

ABA383 · 05-13-2009, 04:09 PM

This is one of those situations where cheap is not a good idea..Cheaper, less efficient converters drive like crap and generate tons of heat in the transmission...You may wind up hating/hurting your car...I wouldn't get a converter at all then...Save and do it right...Doesn't matter what car its going in...Just my .02...

--Alan

TT632 · 05-13-2009, 04:11 PM

I picked up a DACO 2800 stall torque converter about 10 years ago for a conventional sbc and T400and it worked great for years at 3400 lb. Car ran as fast as 10.68 and the converter did not have excesive slippage. Price through my dealer was about $170 at the time. Not saying that you shouldn't get an $800 converter, but if its not making 600 or more rwhp why break the bank on a 1000 HP converter. Like most people I usually match the quality of the parts to the rest of the vehicle. I have bought them all from the $170 DACO to the $2500 lock up converter that I have for my glide. Do a lot of research and get feedback from people who have used them if you really want to save the money.

blake110106 · 05-13-2009, 04:16 PM

if you buy a cheapo then you take a chance it will go very quickly and it could ruin the trans in the car. then you would be out the money for the first TC, new trans, and the second TC. just something to think about!

PNYKLR-TA · 05-13-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bombebomb

Cheap, fast, reliable, pick two, you are not going to get a "good" stall for that kind of cash.

I think you meant Good Fast Cheap its a model they teach. its a triangle but you can only have 2 of the above mentioned things.

If you want it good and fast it wont be cheap.

If you want it fast and cheap it wont be good.

If you want it good and cheap it wont be fast.

Good=quality
Fast=turn around time
Cheap=price

But if you want a Decent stall that isnt gunna run you alot of money, check into Edge, they make quality converters and they dont cost an arm and a leg.

I got my Edge Racing Series for around $500 IIRC and its a 3200, they have a street series one for around $250-300 IIRC Which i think is around 2600-2800rpm stall speed.

http://www.edgeracingconverters.com/...ex&cPath=12_22

Has prices and everything i just dont care to edit my above message haha.

Elliott's94Z · 05-13-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ABA383

This is one of those situations where cheap is not a good idea..Cheaper, less efficient converters drive like crap and generate tons of heat in the transmission...You may wind up hating/hurting your car...I wouldn't get a converter at all then...Save and do it right...Doesn't matter what car its going in...Just my .02...

--Alan

Exactly. Buy "cheap" and you will end up doing it twice and spend the same money if not more in the end rather then putting a quality stall in to begin with.

$750 L98 · 05-13-2009, 06:00 PM

I went cheap, and almost grenaded my trans....get a yank 2800, it's 530 shipped (for me) and is a much higher quality piece.

96capricemgr · 05-13-2009, 06:25 PM

TH400 is a different animal and the converters are cheaper due to no lockup and in stock form a lot of it was overkill allowing it to handle a lot.

IMO the best combination of performance/reliability/price for a 4L60E converter is going to be Edge and with that kind of power plus spray I don't think Andre is going to want to sell you a $300 12" converter. Probably looking at the $5xx ones maybe with a ballon plate added probably near $600 all said and done. Biggest reason they are cheaper then Yank and Vigilante is Vig and Yank have billet covers that cost a lot to machine.

Run a Daycco with that kind of power and chances are VERY good you will take out the tranny when the converter lets loose.

Elliott's94Z · 05-13-2009, 07:51 PM

^^Agreed

Andre would more then likely recommend the Street Edge LT/4L60E which runs $525. Nice stall as well.

Puck · 05-13-2009, 08:11 PM

The stall is one of, if not THE MOST important part of an automatic setup. It will make or break your car.

Do not go cheap.

bombebomb · 05-13-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CARFREAKS

It doesnt need to be killer for the strip so if I had to pick 2 it would be reliable and cheap.

From what I can tell you done blew cheap out the window when you built that engine.

Armyman2445 · 05-14-2009, 01:43 AM

^^^ agreed. But we can find a common ground in the middle. I have used Vigs, and some no namers ($150). You do not want to use any converter that cost 150 dollars. I dont care how cheap you are. I would rather buy a used one before that. I have used a "Jegs" Brand stall. To tell the truth I really like it. 3200 stall on a full weight bolt-on 125 shot with 2.73's out back and was able to cut a best 1.68 60' time. I didnt spray out of the whole either. Just waited till the intial laungh. Back on track here. The Jegs brand is decent middle of the road stall with a price around $500. The other alternatives is call up a company or go to a local tranmission place and see if they have any "messed up" stall. Alot of times a customer will want a 3200 and then not want it after he drove the car. Or a custom stall is made incorrectly for the customer. I have seen people buy these stall for around $200 with less then 100 miles on them.

Dave J · 05-14-2009, 02:46 AM

use a vig or a yank
if you cant afford it dont do it at all

CARFREAKS · 05-14-2009, 02:14 PM

It would be nice to find a lightly used one. Why is a 3200 stall from edge $200 more then a 2600? If the 3200 cost the $355 i would go with that.

I ONLY SPENT $3,000 ON THE MOTOR... IT WAS THE RIGHT COMPRIMISE FOR ME OF BEING CHEAP AND BEING SAFE

96capricemgr · 05-14-2009, 04:49 PM

You are comparing a 12" converter to a 9.5" converter. That is the price difference not the stall causing the difference.

12" are reworked stock stuff, the 9.5" are geared more to performance.

streetassasin · 05-14-2009, 04:58 PM

Don't cheap out, after tax my circle d cost me $785 and its a monster

ARCTIC '00 · 05-14-2009, 05:14 PM

Monster Transmission has a solid converter that's suitable for street/strip. It's a custom 9.5" piece for the 4L60E, mine stalled 2800-3200 (2.1 str) on a LT1/LE1 H/C car. Ran $475 shipped, stayed in one piece for 2 years & multiple track passes.