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Old 08-08-2008, 07:28 AM
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will this old method work?

I borrowed my friends bearing puller with a slide hammer and the end of the tool was to wide to fit in the pilot bearing

but I thought I read that the grease method wouldn't work for some reason??
Old 08-08-2008, 07:31 AM
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The old grease trick won't work, neither will bread etc. Behind the pilot bearing is simply a freeze plug that will be pushed in. Just get a dremel and cut that bearing to small pieces or find a smaller puller.
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shouldn't the crank be there and not a freeze plug? lol

i thought i remember reading about this, but i thought the crank would be there
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It worked fine for me. That method is actually listed in the Haynes' repair manual. I just followed the directions in the manual.
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Based on ^^^

wouldn't I be okay as long as I don't push the bar past the bearing? Or will the pressure push the freeze plug?
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Originally Posted by MetallicaMatt
Based on ^^^

wouldn't I be okay as long as I don't push the bar past the bearing? Or will the pressure push the freeze plug?

Just use a slide hammer with a hook attatchment, or like said a dremel or even a chisel.

DO NOT try to push it out
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Hmmm yea I'm researching this and I'm beginning to think i just got lucky as hell when i did it because that freeze plug did not budge at all for me. I just don't understand why my Haynes repair manual would tell me to use this method given the risk???
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DONT DO IT!!!
i followed the haynes manuel, and guess what... yup the freeze plug pushed it, but i was fortunate enough that i was able to get it and put it back ( alot of time and a whole hell of alot of cursing and bitching!). lucky me it never leaked. either that or i didnt give it enough time to leak before i spun #7 and decided a 4" crank was my next upgrade..
let me recap... DONT DO IT, either get another end for the bearing puller or dremel it out
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well i'm glad i checked, i thought i remember reading about this awhile back

...stupid plug!
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So do aftermarket Cranks have a Freeze Plug in them as well? I have an Eagle 4.000" Forged Crank.
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What is the purpose of that freeze plug? Why not just seal it off completely from the factory?
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I actuall used soaking wet toilet paper to push the bushing out once. Its cleaner than the grease. Just keep hammering wet TP into the hole with a big punch. The bushing will pop out.

But I prefer to rent the slide hammer and pilot bushing adapter from Autozone. Comes out in seconds that way.
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The grease trick works better with a bushing and not so much with a bearing . I use a dremel and cut the bearing in half in two places (usually 12 and 6 o'clock) . Hit it with a chisel and it comes right out .
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I've done it hundreds of times... just tap the pilot bearing tool into the bearing with a hammer. It will break the bearing but you are pulling it out anyway. Then open the jaws and slide hammer it out.

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Do not do it. Use a puller only, try the method above or get the right puller
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Originally Posted by the_merv
So do aftermarket Cranks have a Freeze Plug in them as well? I have an Eagle 4.000" Forged Crank.
Anyone know..
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
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But I prefer to rent the slide hammer and pilot bushing adapter from Autozone. Comes out in seconds that way.
The Autozone blind hole puller kit (slide hammer) is the way to go. The 2nd smallest adapter fits in the LS1 bearing. Besides it's free. Just buy the kit at Autozone and return it when your done.
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Yea there is a freeze plug right beind the pilot bearing, I dont see how these people have done the TP method or the grease method on an LS1 engine. That im sure will work on cars that dont have a freeze plug right behind the bearing that will easily be pushed in if you try those methods. Get the slide hammer/blind hole puller, The one at autozone will work fine, but if you want to buy one, go here, its pretty cheap http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95987
Has worked great for me, I've done three now on different lsx cars, takes -2 seconds to get out.

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Originally Posted by timberman00
The Autozone blind hole puller kit (slide hammer) is the way to go. The 2nd smallest adapter fits in the LS1 bearing. Besides it's free. Just buy the kit at Autozone and return it when your done.
Worked perfect for me.
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The Eagle crank does have a freeze plug, and it is a different diameter than the stock plug. My friend who is a master GM tech used the grease method and the plug leaked oilall over his clutch. Getting the old plug out was a PITA.


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