Single nozzle vs plate system

slammin86 · 10-09-2009, 07:28 PM

At what point is it beneficial to move from a single nozzle system to a plate system?

mitch cobb racing · 10-10-2009, 11:25 AM

when you want to go faster! haha

my understanding is this, a plate wont necessarily make any more power than a nozzle. but it does distribute the nitrous and fuel better and generally they can support more power than a single nozzle. they also hit harder than a nozzle.

35th SS · 10-10-2009, 09:34 PM

what he said.switched from a single to plate on both cars here.

Ray@Nitrous Outlet · 10-10-2009, 11:32 PM

I agree with the "as soon as you start spraying" train of thought.

JL ws-6 · 10-11-2009, 01:25 AM

I am not a huge fan of the single nozzle. Regular behind the TB plate works good to about 175 hp, after that you really need to go to a DP to safely distribute any more.

Plus, you can now tune each hole individually giving you the ability to run a higher level of power safely.

87silverbullet · 10-11-2009, 11:45 AM

I actually bought a 2 stage nitrous kit with 2 nozzles and it was a waste of money on my part. The nozzles kept turning in the boot and the spray pattern was never right. I ended up buying a 2 stage plate a week later and never looked back.

no1izspeshl · 10-11-2009, 01:35 PM

I wasn't a 2 stager like 87silverbullet, but my single nozzle did have a tendency to turn up or down in the bellow. Plus the plate system helps with aesthetics as well. They just clean up the engine bay better. I bought the 78mm plate and have to say I like it a whole lot more than a nozzle.

vicouSS00 · 10-15-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JL ws-6

I am not a huge fan of the single nozzle. Regular behind the TB plate works good to about 175 hp, after that you really need to go to a DP to safely distribute any more.

Plus, you can now tune each hole individually giving you the ability to run a higher level of power safely.

i am currently running a single nozzle on a 150 shot and am looking to upgrade to a Nitrous Outlet 92 mm plate. I have a MSD window switch and a WOT switch. I was told this is by far THE best plate out there and could easily spray a 200 and even a 250 shot safely. True or not true?

JL ws-6 · 10-16-2009, 05:24 AM

Will it flow that much, yeah probably. would I trust it to deistibute evenly to all cylinders being a behind the TB plate deisgn that is dependant on the intake to do the distribution? Hell no.

vicouSS00 · 10-16-2009, 10:17 AM

Ok thanks for the input. What's everyone else think about the plate?

DopdBrd · 10-16-2009, 04:35 PM

Plates, I think, are the only way to go.

The plate isn't really a limiting factor. It's the intake. IIRC the Nitro Dave's LT1 plate will flow up to a 400HP shot, but the design of the intake is what will limit you to a 200 shot or MAYBE 250.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

TARZAN · 10-16-2009, 05:25 PM

Plates are nice, I have one in the back seat of my GTO awaiting install....but single nozzles have worked for MANY people for a LONG time. I understand why some plates distribute better.....but a nozzle, installed correctly, can distribute well enough to leave you with no worries up to a 150 shot (and often more). I have had single nozzles on more than one car spraying up to a 175 shot and I've never had an issue.

-Will

WS.666 · 10-17-2009, 10:49 AM

For the turning problem, why not just stick a small dab of RTV Silicone on the fitting to keep it from backing out and/or turning?

jdiddyws6 · 10-17-2009, 11:14 AM

Switching from a nozzle to a plate really cleans up the installation of the kit, especially if you do it right (hardlines, etc). Also, they're right about flowing more. I wouldn't really want to put 200 through a nozzle, but I'd feel comfortable doing 200-300 through a plate with a proper tune.

slammin86 · 10-17-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WS.666

For the turning problem, why not just stick a small dab of RTV Silicone on the fitting to keep it from backing out and/or turning?

Or get the nut setup that the nozzle screws into.

WS.666 · 10-17-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by slammin86

Or get the nut setup that the nozzle screws into.

Yeah, I have that ready to install, I thought's that what people were having problems with? There are some that just stick the nozzle through the rubber tubing? wtf...no wonder the nozzle is turning...

vicouSS00 · 10-18-2009, 10:48 AM

Thanks for all the input guys. I have a Nitrous Pro Flow kit and have been spraying a 150 shot through a nozzle for the past few months but I want to go with a 200. I have really been looking to upgrade to a Nitro Dave 92 mm plate. I have the 42# injectors with a Walbro 255 fuel pump and have not seen any fuel problems just yet but with the amount of power I am making I have been told I am kind of pushing it on my setup. What do you guys think I should do? Run dual Walbro's or possibly go with the dedicated fuel system? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kody-

firefighter813x · 10-18-2009, 11:45 PM

My NX wet nozzle doesn't move at all. It helps to have an aftermarket silicone hose adapter that's smooth.

mitch cobb racing · 10-19-2009, 09:36 AM

id say get a dedicated fuel system if you can! that way you can run some better "race gas" just for the extra octane and stability and what not.

transam69230 · 10-19-2009, 02:32 PM

I have been thinking about selling my 92mm single stage plate. If your interested maybe we can work something out!