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11-11-2008, 08:43 PM
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#1 | | On The Tree
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denton and Keller, Texas
Posts: 183
| Dont let anyone weld on your f-body that thinks they know what their doing... So i am in the process of doing extensive body work on my z28. Tonight, i brought my car up to my boss's shop to shave off my antenna and weld a patch in.
My boss owns a few shops and his main shop is employed with 40+ year old guys. I walk in there and 3 or 4 of his other employees give me shit because i am some punk college kid with a nitrous lt1... Oh you got a go fast bottle fag.... Were older than you so we know more than you college boy....
I asked my boss if a could use his welder and a few tools, its never a problem hes a damn cool boss. So i am preparing the surface to weld in a patch and some douche rolls in and tells me that i am doing it wrong. Starts giving me shit about chevys and tells me to buy a ford blah blah....
I am an experienced armature welder so i thought maybe he knows welding more than me. Wrong decision.
I wanted to weld in a patch using only a few spot welds thats it to prevent warping and contamination. So this stupid F##ker welds two super fat beads around the antenna hole. GAHHHHH! The welds were at least 1/3 inch tall and the quarter panel was warped to shit....  It looked like dog shit IMO. I was pissed but i could fix it with at least 2 hours of work. All i wanted was a few spot welds not two thick ass beads.
So i spent the rest of the night grinding and preparing the warped area for an excessive amount bondo. I hate using bondo when not necessary.
So never let anyone weld on your car that has less experience than you.
Ill post up pics tomorrow.
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11-11-2008, 08:58 PM
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#2 | | Staging Lane
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Columbus/Houston, Tx
Posts: 71
| Gotta love assholes that went nowere in theyre life... still in highshool i guess ehh?
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11-11-2008, 09:15 PM
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#3 | | TECH Enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rochester, NY
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| That sucks. I'd be pissed.
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11-11-2008, 09:20 PM
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#4 | | TECH Junkie
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Fort Myers, FL.
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| I hate people like that. He probably messed it up on purpose knowing that you are a younger kid with a decent ride.
Hope it turns out for the best.
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11-11-2008, 09:21 PM
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#5 | | TECH Addict
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by texas94z So i am preparing the surface to weld in a patch and some douche rolls in and tells me that i am doing it wrong. Starts giving me shit about chevys and tells me to buy a ford blah blah.... | That was your first hint to not let him work on the car.
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11-11-2008, 11:19 PM
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#6 | | On The Tree
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denton and Keller, Texas
Posts: 183
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Originally Posted by SparkyJJO That was your first hint to not let him work on the car. | lol yeah i guess your right. He said that he had a 460ci 1/2 ton that would rape my car. Ford guys...
It just pisses me off that older gear heads think they are more knowledgeable than the current fuel injected generation gear heads. Dont get me wrong there are some old school guys that educated me to a great extent about automotive hobbies.
Anyways ways. Ill post before and after pics. Its going to be a long day tomorrow.
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11-12-2008, 09:54 AM
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#7 | | TECH Resident
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 778
| Sorry to hear about someone else messing up your car. About welding it though. I would have welded it all the way around with spot welds. I have heard that if you leave cracks below filler and paint then they can eventually show back through. I dont mean to run a big fat bead around it, but make sure it is all tied back together.
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11-12-2008, 02:13 PM
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#8 | | Wheels go round Director
Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Schaumburg, IL
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| Well, come on . . . he needed to make your Chevy look crappier than his Ford. |
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11-12-2008, 02:53 PM
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#9 | | TECH Apprentice
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Naperville, IL
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Originally Posted by Xsta Z 28 Well, come on . . . he needed to make your Chevy look crappier than his Ford. | thats not possible 
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11-12-2008, 03:02 PM
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#10 | | On The Tree
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: midland texas
Posts: 150
| i dont let anyone work on my car unless they can warranty it 
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11-12-2008, 09:41 PM
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#11 | | Launching!
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kelowna BC Canada
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| typical ford fan
* no officne ment to local fourm ford owners*
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11-13-2008, 12:50 AM
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#12 | | TECH Addict
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: carol stream illinois
Posts: 2,057
| gotta love the "experianced body men" its funny because i know a lot of awesome awesome body guys out here but you'd be surprised how many times you hear how "back in the day we did this or that to hack a car out because this or that person didnt wanna pay to do it right" sorry to hear about your car. i shaved my antenna with a nice bead around the entire hole and it didnt take much grinding and just a minor amount of bonbo to make it smooth. |
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11-21-2008, 01:38 AM
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#13 | | On The Tree
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lynchburg, VA
Posts: 130
| Wow, that sucks man. The thing is with me is that I do all of my own work. I don't trust anyone because of things like that. I know that if I do it myself then it is being done with care and if I mess up its my fault. Anyone else is just doing it to put money in their pocket and business's sometimes push cars out with more problems than it came in the shop with. When I worked at the Chevy dealer back home, I got shit all the time because I worked slow. I don't think I work slow. I just respect others car and do just as good of job if not better than on my own car. To me that is better business, not seeing how many cars can come in and out in a certain time frame. Quality is one of the words that I live by day to day. Everything I do needs to be done right. OCD I guess.
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11-21-2008, 03:30 AM
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#14 | | TECH Apprentice
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sun Diego
Posts: 370
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Originally Posted by texas94z He said that he had a 460ci 1/2 ton that would rape my car. |
How do you rape a car. Anyway, why didn't you tell this peckerwood to get the f**k out of your face?
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11-21-2008, 09:40 AM
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#15 | | TECH Resident
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: SE Michigan, where people fall out of the sky and land in my front yard...
Posts: 908
| Should have slammed his head into the quarter and turned it into the insurance company. "Gee I don't know, I was at the bar and some drunk guy ran head first into it!" That sucks though, hope it comes out ok. |
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11-21-2008, 10:36 AM
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#16 | | 12 Second Club
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wichita KS
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| Another classic case of the "know-it-alls" you meet in the world of cars who don't know anything. I know what you mean ... they talk like they know so much that you think they must know more than you. Then they prove themselves to be complete idiots.
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11-22-2008, 06:00 PM
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#17 | | Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
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| Sucks to hear! Only shade-trade mechanic i trust workin on my car is me!
I hear'ya on older guys raggin on younger kids for their cars. Ive got a cammed LS6 '91 Z28 and i get ragged on a fair bit for having a 500hp car at such a young age, even by my grandparents
I go to shows&shines and im told all the time about how much better it was back in the day etc etc, how kids these days have no idea. Its pretty friggen annoying. Not gonna lie haha.
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11-22-2008, 07:24 PM
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#18 | | Teching In
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 48
| Shame on you, you young wipper snapper, for even thinking about welding something like that. On that type of project I would have used panel adhesive; No welding no warping. By the way I'm 50 and I guess I would classified as an old school body guy. By the way, I don't don't this for a living, I only do it on the side, all though I have been doing it for 30 years. It's like being a DR. You have to keep up with the times. |
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