I had this problem back in 2005 and had the roof replaced under the tsb. My car is a 99 and had 94k miles on it. Dealership charged me $300 and they covered the remaining. My car was then garaged for more then 3 years. Fast forward to now and my car has 113k miles on it. Bubbles have come back even with whatever 'new'/ correct adhesive they used. Sadly, the car is in a parking garage during the day or garage at night and this has still happened. Absolute BS!
Willing to bet they "fixed" the old one . . . not replaced it . . .
Willing to bet they "fixed" the old one . . . not replaced it . . .
Yes. I've been pretty disappointed but thinking off all possibilities.
1. They only repainted the old one.
2. They did the fix but with bad glue.
3. They did the fix w/ good glue but it still causes the issue sooner or later.
When they did this in 2005 they buffer burned it so bad it needed another repainting. Then... after that repainting there were clear coat bubbles all over in the thing. They can't do anything right.
I'm going to try to get them to do it free of charge. If they refuse I'll try to pressure them with with #1 and 2. I've got some other methods to pressure them. If nothing works I guess I'll be doing it myself.
Thinking of possible solutions other then a remove and replace. Has anyone tried to use vinyl sticker to completely cover the top? Is this even feasible?
3. They did the fix w/ good glue but it still causes the issue sooner or later.
use vinyl sticker to completely cover the top? Is this even feasible?
Disagree with #3. There is a right way for it to be installed and the bubbles NEVER occur. Proof: my '94 Z28 hardtop does not have a single bubble... nor do my '01 or '02 Camaros on the sail panel (both are t-top). My '99 hardtop has the Goddamn bubbles.
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Reason: Specified that '94 and '99 are hardtops.
what is the bulletin number? will they still fix this issue for free? i work for a GM dealer and just bought my trans am 4 months ago and it has this problem.
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so is the bulletin still valid? o have an 02 with 120,000. my sail panel looking like garbage. its like i woke up one day and it decided to bubble everywhere over night.
Update - After all this time, I finally took my car to a body shop (definitely NOT a GM dealership), new GM replacement panel in hand. A little over $500 later, and I have my car back minus the bubbles...hopefully this will never be an issue again. Can't say that I'll ever forget this whole thing, but at least it is over (I hope).
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Looks like a 300c butt fucked a solstice and this is their retarded love child.
Update - After all this time, I finally took my car to a body shop (definitely NOT a GM dealership), new GM replacement panel in hand. A little over $500 later, and I have my car back minus the bubbles...hopefully this will never be an issue again. Can't say that I'll ever forget this whole thing, but at least it is over (I hope).
Cool - so the total cost of the repair is?
How does it look, paint match wise?
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With buying the panel from GM Parts Direct (and paying about $90 to have it shipped), the grand total was around $1100 - the shop that did it is the only one I trust, and the paint match was spot on (at least to me, but I don't do this for a living).
It is weird to look at the panel and see no bubbles and no glue line...the shop lined it up perfectly though, and the paint looks great.
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Looks like a 300c butt fucked a solstice and this is their retarded love child.
GM knows all about the panel issue ... but they have turned a blind eye toward the problem .... there never was a recall on the roof panel... there was a service bulliten on the problem ... which was their way of fixing as few of them as possible...the paint match...black is black if it is on a camaro what is there to match.
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GM knows all about the panel issue ... but they have turned a blind eye toward the problem .... there never was a recall on the roof panel... there was a service bulliten on the problem ... which was their way of fixing as few of them as possible...the paint match...black is black if it is on a camaro what is there to match.
Black paint varies quite a bit...it isn't like you can just grab any can of black paint and start going to town.
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Looks like a 300c butt fucked a solstice and this is their retarded love child.
Again...it is NOT a recall, only a bulletin acknowleding that it can be a problem and how to fix it.
I would not go in to this expecting GM to cover anything at all...the dealership I took it to denied my claim on the spot, but said I could pay them $1600 and they would fix it for me. I wanted to tell them right then and there to fuck off, but I was polite and just walked away.
It was easier and cheaper to source the panel myself and source a shop I could trust with the install. It is not a cheap fix, but it can be done (provided GM still has any roof panels - otherwise, you'll be off to the junk yard to look for a '97 and older roof panel you can carefully cut off).
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Looks like a 300c butt fucked a solstice and this is their retarded love child.
is this recall still in place? i have 44000 miles and its a 2000 would they still do it?
Definitely not a recall. I got mine fixed by GM for free. But I had to go to the Better Business Bureau to arrgue my case and they forced GM to fix it. Hopefully you would get a GM rep as dumb as the one in my arbitration, I think he won the case for me.
Definitely not a recall. I got mine fixed by GM for free. But I had to go to the Better Business Bureau to arrgue my case and they forced GM to fix it. Hopefully you would get a GM rep as dumb as the one in my arbitration, I think he won the case for me.
How recent was this that you had the work paid for?
Ive got a couple of 94 parts cars that I may try and cut the panels off
and save.
My 02 TA with T top is looking pretty sad...
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