Is a handheld capable of tuning highly modded cars?

94lt1m6 · 06-28-2009, 07:24 PM

For instance my car. It isn't "highly Modded," but is far from stock. It is a Stock worked heads/Cammed/383 with full boltons and supporting mods like Fuel system....

Or would I just need to buy a HPTuners system?

brianfromhawaii · 06-28-2009, 08:16 PM

technically you can hook your diablo sport to your computer and change the tune on it somehow.... but it SUCKS. get hp tuners rockin boy.

94lt1m6 · 06-28-2009, 08:45 PM

Alright, thanks man. Does the regular HPTuners have everything that just a normal person would need to tune? I don't want to pay the extra for the pro just to get a bunch of stuff I won't ever use, you know?

brianfromhawaii · 06-28-2009, 09:06 PM

first off.. you know you need a 98+ right?

second.. yes it does have everything, but its a pita sometimes because it doesnt have the eio.. get the pro dude. you wont ever look back.

94lt1m6 · 06-28-2009, 09:13 PM

My name is misleading, I have an 01, I have had like 3 F-body's since the old 94. What is the eio?

brianfromhawaii · 06-28-2009, 10:38 PM

enhanced input output... its what the pro comes with (and the pro comes with stand alone data logging!!!"

Mike@Diablosport · 06-29-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brianfromhawaii

enhanced input output... its what the pro comes with (and the pro comes with stand alone data logging!!!"

Thats funny, the Predator, which according to you 'sucks', has the ability to datalog all by itself, dont even need a laptop...thats what I call standalone data logging.

Not to mention, with our custom tuning, there is no real limit to what can be done through a handheld.
786 rwhp, stock bottom end!

Thanks
Mike

slow · 06-29-2009, 11:38 AM

yes, a handheld can be capable of custom tuning highly modified vehicels, just don't but a hypertech or other basic unit, without this capability.

The handheld tuners I use, all have analog inputs

Ryan

macca_779 · 06-30-2009, 05:34 AM

Check out EFI LIVE and its V1. It has external input capability unlike the HPT Std. But misses out on all the stuff u don't need like CAN Vehicle support as is in the higher end HTP Pro and EFI LIVE V2. It also allows black box logging which is logging for a period of time without a laptop.

The extra $50 is worth it believe me.
www.efilive.com

b00sted · 06-30-2009, 12:57 PM

I got HPT Pro because I eventually want to start tuning cars for friends and other local guys. The EIO is nice because you stick the two wideband wires in it and tighten two small screws and you're ready to datalog...No messing with the EGR wire to log the wideband like you need to do with the standard version.

Also, the on board datalogging is great. Before I got it I figured it wouldn't be a big deal to not have it. It's much easier on the laptop battery. Put the car in SD or MAF only to tune VE/MAF, shut off the laptop and go datalog with the HPtuners MPVI...Then hook the lap top back up, make the changes to the VE or whatever and go do it again. My lap top has a shitty battery and it wouldn't last if I was trying to do a few hours of data logging and tuning with it on the whole time.

94lt1m6 · 06-30-2009, 08:45 PM

Dang there are so many options, and i dont know what half this stuff means....I'm assuming data logging is recording data from what your car is doing. Is a wideband what measures A/F?

macca_779 · 07-01-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 94lt1m6

Dang there are so many options, and i dont know what half this stuff means....I'm assuming data logging is recording data from what your car is doing. Is a wideband what measures A/F?

Thats correct.

94lt1m6 · 07-02-2009, 10:23 PM

Well It seems like if I just get HPtuners pro there is nothing I can miss out on. I'll probably just do that. I'm sure you guys will be getting some threads from me asking how the hell to work it. I'll probably buy in the next month-2months.

Doc · 07-03-2009, 12:11 AM

What are your goals for this project? What are you prepared to do? Many fine products have been advertised in this thread but, I think there is an unanswered question only you can answer. What level of participation are you willing to go to with this? None of the options are going to fit into the "Drivethru, Do you want to supersize that extra value meal?"

All of the aforementioned options are going to require you to put in some time and effort-something that a lot of folks are willing to all too quickly pass off as all the internet wonder-kids are touting as "It's just that simple with product XXX."

I think you have to ask yourself "Do I have the time, patience and aptitude to undertake learning a new language," such as French or German?

Or, if option A is not realistic for one reason or another then, "Do I have the time and patience to research a qualified, competent, professional organization to assist?"

Sadly, I think the missfortunes of some very vocal individuals who have happened to run accross some unscrupulous shops have spread the perception to the general internet population that taking your vehicle to a shop is a waste of time and if you don't buy product XXX and do it yourself then, you are a total slug and not worthy of owning a high performance vehicle.

People are different and have different needs. Don't just look at the immediate/up front dollar signs...Remember why you got into this hobby for whatever reasons you deemed important to you.