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01-11-2007, 01:01 AM
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#1 | | Staging Lane
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if i was running the show at GM, i would do this.
we all know that the camaro is coming back
firebird is on my board. i wouldn't bring it back at the exact same time as the camaro...maybe six months after the camaro.
make the Grand prix RWD with a longitudenal V8...i think thats being done.
add engine options to the solstice 4, V6, and V8.
bring back the GTO and have a new chevelle share its plateform plus have a buck Grand national share in on the love too.
the impala that we have is gay. to one of two things: have an impala share a plate from with the CTS-V or have holden ship a caprice over here and call it an impala
that is just me you can add to this.
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01-11-2007, 02:59 AM
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Solstice is fine, going to get 300HP from its I4, the Ecotecs are wonderfull engines.
GP and Bonne are dumped for the new RWD V8 Pontiac G8.
The GN was acctually talked about about 4-5 years ago. Got me a lil excited, but I doubt it'll happen. Buick did have a performance car coming out befor, dunno what happened to it.
The Impala is ugly and no so impressive IMO either, something needs to be done.
The Colorado needs a SS version with a 4.3L Turbo  Or the Vortec I6 turbo. That I5 in there isn't kinda pathetic lol. Love how the Colorados look though.
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01-11-2007, 09:44 AM
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#3 | | I drove a 5th Gen!
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The next Impala will be RWD
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01-12-2007, 04:19 AM
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#4 | | Staging Lane
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personally i think that are unknowingly trying to kill the impala by making it FWD
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01-12-2007, 02:01 PM
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I agree they need to get a nice full size Impala with RWD to compete with the 300C and Charger, those cars arent that great and it would be easy to destroy them with a nice looking Impala or maybe a Pontiac Catalina  
I always loved those things, but I have a soft spot in my heart for the 60's GM Boats they called Impala and Catalina
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01-12-2007, 09:46 PM
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The Catalina I thought was just like a base for the GTO ...
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01-12-2007, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Formula350 The Catalina I thought was just like a base for the GTO ... | That was the Tempest. Catalinas were full size big ass cars. I love those old boats!
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01-13-2007, 12:59 AM
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Yea it was basically a Impala in Pontiac clothing
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01-13-2007, 10:11 AM
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#9 | | Indiana is so screwed...
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Originally Posted by OctaneZ28 The next Impala will be RWD | This one is right now http://www.nhra.com/content/news.asp...17819&zoneid=8  
Just like Nascar, it's ok to have four-door funny cars now 
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01-22-2007, 03:27 PM
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#10 | | Staging Lane
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I believe I heard that the Firebird is not coming back. Besides, why would you need the Firebird with the Camaro coming out? Also with the new GTO coming out. All the firebird will just take away from the sales of both cars. Also why would you want the GTO to share it's platform with two other cars. That's the problem with GM. They just borrow platforms from other divisions, and it's basically the same thing. It's just kind of annoying. GM needs to cut some of the fat, and streamline itself, if it's going to survive. I don't mean to cause trouble, or stir up a fight. This is just my opinion, and it's just something that bugs me a lot. | |
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01-23-2007, 02:16 AM
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#11 | | Launching!
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I just love how people always bring up how the firebird will take away camaro sales when they didn't have that problem for 35 years. Just funny to me.
GM needs a charger fighting impala. Let the monte go and call it a chevelle (V8 RWD of course). I think they need a bird and a GTO, but they need to be two completely different cars. Buick needs a performance sedan and coupe. Maybe a GSX. Also they need to keep making the trailblazer SS because that truck is the shit and they need to offer a silverado SS with some balls offered in extended and standard cabs. | |
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01-23-2007, 09:50 AM
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#12 | | On The Tree
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Originally Posted by QuickT/A I just love how people always bring up how the firebird will take away camaro sales when they didn't have that problem for 35 years. Just funny to me.
GM needs a charger fighting impala. Let the monte go and call it a chevelle (V8 RWD of course). I think they need a bird and a GTO, but they need to be two completely different cars. Buick needs a performance sedan and coupe. Maybe a GSX. Also they need to keep making the trailblazer SS because that truck is the shit and they need to offer a silverado SS with some balls offered in extended and standard cabs. | Why would a Firebird cannibalize sales? It never has before. They are for two different markets! Camaro has always been a base model in comparison to the firebird. I should not have to explain why. Also the profit from the sales of a firebird will not go to GM? Please! Thats like saying by someone buying a Mercury Sable it hurts Ford. Come on. Its all money in their pockets.
I agree with the idea of bringing out models that appeal to enthusiasts. Bottom Line...
GTO was always a family car. Keep it one. Bring down the price. A GTO was never meant to be a corvette. Leave it that way.
Firebird and Camaro were always muscle cars. Keep it that way.
Trans Am was Pontiac's corvette of sorts. Rework the design and offer something fitting. Firebird should be more streamlined, more like a fighter jet and less like a Camaro.
Pontiac is a popular brand, but is not offering models people want besides the GP.
Monte Carlos are not cutting it. There are nice cars, but they just don't sell.
Buick has moved to accomodate the elderly and abandoned entusiasts. We probably will not see another GSX. Turbocharged Buicks maybe.
Impala was never a sporty car. It was a luxury car. A grandma car. Great choice to compete with 300's and such. Bring up quality and appeal. | |
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01-23-2007, 10:32 AM
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#13 | | TECH Apprentice
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Why does GM need a charger fighting impala? The impala out sells the charger 3 to 1, people always complain about this but the damn car sells and sells a lot.
O and we need a performance Buick, i'm a buick guy, NOW!!!
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01-23-2007, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pheonix_rising Impala was never a sporty car. It was a luxury car. A grandma car. Great choice to compete with 300's and such. Bring up quality and appeal. | Never sporty? What about the 65 Impala SS with the 409? or even the 96 Impala SS?
Those were some bad cars. Besides do I look like a grandma, I drive a 65? lol jokes
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01-23-2007, 09:03 PM
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#15 | | Launching!
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Originally Posted by BanditTA Why does GM need a charger fighting impala? The impala out sells the charger 3 to 1, people always complain about this but the damn car sells and sells a lot.
O and we need a performance Buick, i'm a buick guy, NOW!!! | I complain about the car because it would be a fun daily driver if it was RWD. The implala SS would be an awesome a rear-driver. I don't find FWD fun, bottom line. Because of this my next daily driver will most likely be a Trailblazer SS. But because of price I have to buy used. The impala SS price is in my range as a new car. So what this means is GM loses a costomer. They don't benefit from me buying a used GM unless I buy a GM certified TBSS. | |
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01-31-2007, 09:42 PM
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#16 | | Teching In
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Originally Posted by RomulusSmallBlock if i was running the show at GM, i would do this.
we all know that the camaro is coming back
firebird is on my board. i wouldn't bring it back at the exact same time as the camaro...maybe six months after the camaro.
bring back the GTO and have a new chevelle share its plateform plus have a buck Grand national share in on the love too.
the impala that we have is gay. | There's no chance in reality that we'll get that many RWD/V8 coupes from GM. It ain't 1970 anymore.
Camaro, yes. Not a Firebird, they keep saying. If there's a Pontiac Zeta coupe at all it'll probably be bigger than Camaro and almost certainly called GTO.
Forget a second Chevy RWD coupe, and forget seeing any muscle cars from Buick. Pontiac, Buick, and GMC are for all intents and purposes now one line of vehicles. Pontiac will get the performance cars, Buick the geezer cars.
As for the Impala (which isn't "gay", just kind of redundant)... I have heard that as the new Camaro is to the '69 Camaro, the next-gen Impala is to the '65 Impala, stylingwise. It's supposed to be stop-traffic gorgeous, RWD with serious optional V8 horsepower. Malibu will take care of the Camry shoppers, Impala is aiming to eat Charger's lunch.
BTW, the current RWD Cadillacs are on Sigma. That's a different, more high-feature platform that won't be shared with Pontiac or Chevy. | |
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