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07-07-2007, 02:30 PM
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|  Could this be inspiration for a new Firebird??
http://www.chryslercuda.com/
It looks like the all mighty 'Cuda has a good chance of becoming a reality, the cousin for the new Challenger. That rings a bell......Challenger/'Cuda...Camaro/Firebird...
If Dodge can do this....why GM cant???? Discuss.... 
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07-07-2007, 03:57 PM
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Most people will tell you that it will cost millions upon millions of dollars to fab up a few different style body panels (fenders, nose and tail). 
Apparently someone just forgot to inform Chrysler of that bogus bs.
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07-07-2007, 07:03 PM
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There is no way in hell they will even mention a Firebird because first they need to see if the Camaro will sink or swim. Plus Look how many more people wont buy a Camaro when they know there will be a new T/A coming in 2 years?
And... I dont think they know if they want a goat or a bird in the first place.
No Firebird or GTO news until AT LEAST a full year with the new Camaro out.
If Camaro does very well we will get a 'Bird within 3 years, if it tanks we will get a GTO again. If its so-so who knows...
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07-07-2007, 09:21 PM
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Seems Chrysler is smart enough to know they can capture more market share by offering a second option for virtually nothing.
It's real. It works.
But GM is run by idiots. Unfortunately. No Firebird, no sale - of anything. I'll go elsewhere for all my needs if they twin a classic Muscle Car to a damned camaro.
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07-07-2007, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1998Z28LOADED There is no way in hell they will even mention a Firebird because first they need to see if the Camaro will sink or swim. Plus Look how many more people wont buy a Camaro when they know there will be a new T/A coming in 2 years?
And... I dont think they know if they want a goat or a bird in the first place.
No Firebird or GTO news until AT LEAST a full year with the new Camaro out.
If Camaro does very well we will get a 'Bird within 3 years, if it tanks we will get a GTO again. If its so-so who knows... | That's sound logic in my opinion, and hopefully GM will follow closely to that. Any true Firebird owner, who will buy a new Camaro just to get a new F-Body (not that it IS an "F-Body" anymore) will sell it when the Firebird comes out. Except Drk lol He has a deep seeded hate for the Camaro 
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07-07-2007, 10:49 PM
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If GM realizes the importance and the difference a full scale media exposure does to a vehicle. Just look at Ford commercials.....Picture a TV commercial showing a 5th gen Camaro/Firebird side by side and something like "true muscle and heritage....finally back..with a vengeance!" I still think a Camaro comeback without the Firebird is like hot chick...without tits!!.
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07-09-2007, 09:02 AM
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Chrysler Barracuda? That doesn't even sound right. There would be too much bickering of the lack of the "Plymouth" part to even bother with trying to market that car.
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07-09-2007, 05:40 PM
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Kind of weak a argument......who cares as long as its another modern muscle car??
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07-09-2007, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by y2k_ta Chrysler Barracuda? That doesn't even sound right. There would be too much bickering of the lack of the "Plymouth" part to even bother with trying to market that car. |
yea it was stupid to kill off Plymouth, Now you can have Cuda's, GTX's, Roadrunners.
Anyways, I seriously doubt that the Cuda will come back.
And I wish GM would just rebadge the Camaro for the masses, they talk like if it will take sales away from them, but last time I checked GM owned Chevy and Pontiac right?
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07-09-2007, 08:06 PM
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I agree with the majority in this thread. It would cost GM very minimal amount for them to rebadge a 5th gen. They should just do it. When I first saw the car in magazines; i imagined the center bumper splitting the grill into two sections like 76 t/a's, upper front fender vents, and rear bumper with provisions for taillights that stretch side to side.
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07-09-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1998Z28LOADED There is no way in hell they will even mention a Firebird because first they need to see if the Camaro will sink or swim. Plus Look how many more people wont buy a Camaro when they know there will be a new T/A coming in 2 years?
And... I dont think they know if they want a goat or a bird in the first place.
No Firebird or GTO news until AT LEAST a full year with the new Camaro out.
If Camaro does very well we will get a 'Bird within 3 years, if it tanks we will get a GTO again. If its so-so who knows... | The GTO will be out around 2010, about a year after the Camaro. The GTO and Monaro are going to be built side by side in Aussyland. According to Bob Lutz, the 'Bird is dead  ........for now. | |
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07-21-2007, 11:48 PM
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Hey look...Dodge made a Camaro. lol. Camaro and no Firebird is like getting those twins from the beer commercials for a photo shoot....but then only one shows up.
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07-22-2007, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chaman If GM realizes the importance and the difference a full scale media exposure does to a vehicle. Just look at Ford commercials.....Picture a TV commercial showing a 5th gen Camaro/Firebird side by side and something like "true muscle and heritage....finally back..with a vengeance!" I still think a Camaro comeback without the Firebird is like hot chick...without tits!!. | Right on bro! And thats no good for anyone!  | |
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Originally Posted by chaman If GM realizes the importance and the difference a full scale media exposure does to a vehicle. Just look at Ford commercials.....Picture a TV commercial showing a 5th gen Camaro/Firebird side by side and something like "true muscle and heritage....finally back..with a vengeance!" | Ford was running a MUSTANG commercial earlier tonight!!!!!!! Quote: |
Originally Posted by chapman I still think a Camaro comeback without the Firebird is like hot chick...without tits!!. | There is a quick fix for both  | |
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08-02-2007, 02:07 AM
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i agree. i would think a camaro/F-bird combo. would be the best thing GM could do since they made the solstice. which has done Great.
like chaman said. the commercials alone they could incorporate would be cool.
have the have a Family reunion commercial. have the G8 come out as a new kid. the lumina SS come back. vette/ camaro ect ect. and then have the TA roll in at the end to have the whole family yea i know just dreamin rofl
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08-02-2007, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Captainofiron And I wish GM would just rebadge the Camaro for the masses, they talk like if it will take sales away from them, but last time I checked GM owned Chevy and Pontiac right? | That is exactly what I don't want. If GM makes a Firebird that is a rebadged Camaro with a different grill, I'll consider it a slap in the face. It would be like giving a kid the wrong GI Joe, and to fix the problem, you just changed the toy's hat
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Originally Posted by Greggy Geeze, It's a FIREBIRD people. They are all Firebird's unless it's a Camaro. The rest is just is the package name... Formula, Trans AM, Firehawk, WS6 or whatever.
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08-02-2007, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hc8719 That is exactly what I don't want. If GM makes a Firebird that is a rebadged Camaro with a different grill, I'll consider it a slap in the face. It would be like giving a kid the wrong GI Joe, and to fix the problem, you just changed the toy's hat | Um.... no. That's what happened in 1967, and despite that, it was better looking out of the box (and faster because they were allowed to use their own engines). That's what would happen again. There's no 2 ways around it.
Furthermore, that allowed it to develop into something over time. Again, you're basically preventing that from happening. You know the expression "it's easier to apologize than to get permission"? Similar concept, it's easier to evolve something than it is to get it ok'd in the first place.
Get it in Pontiac dealers, no matter how they have to do it, and improve it over time. It's not like it's hard to out-do chevy (as we've seen over the life of the F-Body.  ).
Although, truthfully, that's just philosophical discussion because Lutz won't allow that anyway.
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08-02-2007, 02:47 PM
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IMO the Trans Am has been the front runner as far as looks and sometimes power (early on). My brother and I would both pass on a Camaro if a Trans Am were to debut. IMO it is just that much more appealing than the Camaro. I'm a chevy guy, too. Trans Ams just look so F*ing mean.
If GM drops the ball on this, then I don't want to hear them complaining about their money problems. It's like they have been given gold and want to trade that for a "Mystery Box." Everybody knows the Camaro/Firebird are going to rape in sales. If the Transformers movie and the unveiling weren't enough. People were actually cheering and clapping when the Camaro came on. Hopefully they make the right decision and we have some Firebird/Trans Ams in '10.
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