V6 Turbo/Supercharger is this possible?

Pontiac-Prodigy · 03-26-2009, 12:10 AM

so the question is can a V6 have a super charger or turbo?
i have a 1999 Pontiac Firebird

and comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! thanks

Hamrdown · 03-26-2009, 01:09 AM

Yes. Powerdyne actually makes a supercharger for it. Although you can't run alot of boost due to the higher compression. I think the kit is only set up for 5lbs of boost. IMO for the couple thousand dollars spent I would do a V8 swap. You can find great deals on 4.8 and 5.3 liter motors at the local boneyard out of trucks. then sell the V6 to offset some of the cost. Just my .02

Avaric3 · 03-26-2009, 01:18 AM

just sell and buy the v8. much cheaper and better than both options.

take it from me, i learned the hard way i started off wit a v6 mustang and modded the shit out of it and it was still extremely slow (mid 14s). finally i ditched it and now im movin on to bigger and better things

Hamrdown · 03-26-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Avaric3

just sell and buy the v8. much cheaper and better than both options.

take it from me, i learned the hard way i started off wit a v6 mustang and modded the shit out of it and it was still extremely slow (mid 14s). finally i ditched it and now im movin on to bigger and better things

+1. really if you crave power selling the v6 car and going to the V8 version would be way better. the price difference would probably be the same as the cost of the supercharger, you would be way happier.

DlXlE · 03-26-2009, 01:35 AM

I had the v6 and thought I would be happy making it faster. Then I realized after all the money it would take I could just buy the real thing, the V8. Plus even after you spend all the money I will just ask your opinion on my taillights.
Basically sell the v6 and buy a V8, you won't regret it.

mhayes2344 · 03-26-2009, 01:37 AM

I had a 1999 firebird as my first car...so I've been in your shoes. I also thought about going the turbo or s/c route but in the end it didn't make much sense considering the price, downtime and whatnot.

I ended up selling the car and buying my current car, 96 ws6...Sometimes I wish I would have waited and bought a newer ls1 powered car. So my vote is forget the turbo or s/c and go ls1.

thunderstruck507 · 03-26-2009, 02:02 AM

agreed with all above.

even the cost and pain in the ass of swapping a v8 isn't worth it, won't have as much "value", more room for problems, and the v6 style body/interior/ect (not huge difference for the most part but just my opinion...I care nothing for "sleepers" of this sort)

DlXlE · 03-26-2009, 02:39 AM

If you have the money to do forced induction then your not that far from the value of a low end ls1 car. If not, I can't believe I'm saying this

, a GT mustang would be faster than your v6 bird.(Don't bash me) they are usually cheaper. It might not be as fast as an LS1 but its still a step up.

Question to the O.P, how old are you?

shtnfrds · 03-26-2009, 02:55 AM

for the money, trade it in on a newer LS1 car.

when i had my old 93 Z, there was a guy that supercharged his girl friends V6 stang, they both thought it would blow me away.

well they were both pissed that i walked them HARD.

DlXlE · 03-26-2009, 03:09 AM

Earlier when I said you would be close to the value I meant selling your car and using that money plus the mod money to buy the LS1. Or a GT as a last resort act of desperation.

posz28 · 03-26-2009, 06:28 AM

Agreed with everyone. But there is a guy with a turbo set up with a v6 camaro. Check it out fullthrottlev6.com.

Texas 02 Z28 · 03-26-2009, 06:41 AM

It'll always sound like a V6.

No offense or anything, jussayin... Keep it in mind.

But yeah, for the cost of going FI and being kinda quick and very unique with the V6, you can buy an LS1 and be fast and still stand out in a crowd. Then you have a platform with a lot more options too. Not to mention a lot more people with experience can help you out with random stuff that might go wrong.

Pontiac-Prodigy · 03-26-2009, 05:37 PM

im 18 and well i think ill just wait alil and swap out for a ls1 thanks

Luvthis · 03-27-2009, 10:28 AM

a few years back i saw a guy at the stip with a charged 6cyl camero going 12s. But i also remember him saying he had a e engine couple $$$$ in the engine also

plaf713 · 03-27-2009, 11:42 AM

my friend had a 98 v6 camaro with a turbo on it, put down around 350rwhp i believe, i think his user name is kidcamaro98 on here if you want to pm him

birdmaro · 03-27-2009, 12:02 PM

^yup thats kidcamaro allright.

the kid is 18, having a v8 car won't only cost him the extra couple thou for getting a new car, but the insurance rates would be astronomical. i'm 21 with no speeding tickets and 1 accident not at fault and the rate between my sixer and a v8 of similar year, color, body style is 1200 dollars...every 6 months. is having an ls1 worth 2400 dollars? naat.

powerdyne units are rare now, production has stopped. there are a group of people working on mass-producing the brackets required to mount the powerdyne, but the head units you would still have to purchase (found on ebay, craigslist, part outs on various forums etc)

turbos are becoming easier and easier. PM me for company that does great work, they currently have a 650rwhp single turbo v6 and are working on getting even more out of it.

there are tons of us in the 300+ range, and quite a few around 400 on relatively stock blocks (maybe heads, cam, stock bottom end)

if you know what you are doing, you can fabricate your own stuff, there is TONS of room in the engine bay of a sixer to do this, the ls1 guys don't have as much leeway.

but before you do ANYTHING, whether it be a swap or a new car or a turbo or sc or heads/cam...

realize this

nothing is cheap.

Plan out EVERYTHING in advance, do your research and find out what you need, what will break, what will need to be upgraded etc etc.

for ex:
for an ls1 SWAP, you'd need the k member, ls1 engine + trans, trans crossmember, if it is a different trans than you have (auto to manual) you need the pedals and the linkages, you need the wiring harness, pcm, gauge cluster, center console maybe, new front springs to match the weight etc etc etc

buying an ls1 car, keep in mind the insurance, and that the majority of "low-ball" ls1s have had the crap beaten out of them, thats why they are selling them cheap, how much for a rebuild? new trans? etc etc

turbo/sc- brackets, forward facing headers, injectors, leaks, repairs, tuning tuning tuning tuning tuning tuning tuning...and tuning.

if you just want to have some fun, learn how to drive, get some shorter gears, and a stall. theres some v6 folks in the mid to high 13s with just those mods.

theres plenty heads/cam v6s in the 12-13 second range

and the turbo cars range anywhere from 13s to 8s depending on how much you want to drop into it.

Pontiac-Prodigy · 03-27-2009, 10:01 PM

thats alot to think abour

AronZ28 · 03-28-2009, 01:00 AM

Only way I'd go forced induction on a V6 is if I got a car with a blown motor for dirt cheap. Put a forged bottom end on it and crank up the boost.

Just curious, but how much of a difference is there in the 3.8 V6 in the fbody vs the 3.8 turbo V6 in a Grand National?

Sarge_13 · 03-28-2009, 01:04 AM

There's a guy on here, Linxs I believe is his name, who has a 600+rwhp turbo V6

z28bryan02 · 03-28-2009, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DlXlE

If you have the money to do forced induction then your not that far from the value of a low end ls1 car. If not, I can't believe I'm saying this

, a GT mustang would be faster than your v6 bird.(Don't bash me) they are usually cheaper. It might not be as fast as an LS1 but its still a step up.

Question to the O.P, how old are you?

Hmmm i had a 2000 camaro v6 back in the day and i remember smoking 94-98 mustangs with the 5.0 or 4.6. at the local track.. ok maybe not smoking but i was beating them by around .3 of a second. yes i had some mods but still think it would have been close so dont count the old 3.8 out so fast