I am 100% with you on that. as strong as it is and as much power it can make, I dont think the 2jz is superior to the ls1. i think they are equally great for what they were desgined for, and both will make enough power to make your shit your pants in a street car. if you ever felt a 2jz with a 76gts in 3rd, the feeling is beyond words. both are good motors.
Agreed!
Remember, an LS1 with a T-76 ain't too shabby either (see sig).
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Well this "mullethead" totallyAGREES with you bb!! (Except for that very last sentence; I STILL think it would be a "cool" swap if for no other reason than to piss the f off the Nippon purist fanboyzz, and yes I know more likely than not it would be slower than the "touched by God"<-- MODIFIED GTEs, SO WHAT?)
I DOknow how "awesome" the GTEs are. Where have I said that they could not be made crazy/sick powerful/fast??? I just refuse to believe that they are "unbeatable" as sooo many of the fanboyzz claim. I also feel that one does NOT HAVE TO love/worship them in order to be considered an "enthusiast", as seems to be the case on this and every other site. Who the F*** made up these "rules"??!!?? I never proclaim that one "MUST love the C6 Z06 in order to be an enthusiast", so I expect the same. What one must do, in order to be considered "in touch with reality" is aknowledge that they can be made insanely fast/powerful, just like anything else. OK?
I was only comparing PURE "stock for stock" cars, in which case they (MKIV TTs) were/are impressive, but not quite so "awesome".
I know what you're trying to say.
Let's put it this way, it's "great" now. But isn't that impressive for a 1993?
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Those Supras would still be impressive in 2007 without anything changed. Great body, really beyond it's time, and great power (or at least potential).
I'm never going to do 6's in the 1/4, and I don't care to. LSx's are my bag, so if I had a Supra, guess what I'd want it it? I imagine there are plenty others that could follow my sentiment on that one.
Anyone hate me for that?
This is kinda like an argument that two of my co-workers had over whether or not there's real milk in Dairy Queens ice cream. Completely off topic.
Noone asked if the 2Jz is better than the LS1. Noone asked if the LS1 can run 6's with a stock block. Noone asked if a Supra can beat a Viper.
The OP only asked if anyone's ever seen a Toyota Supra with an LS series engine sitting in the bay.
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Mechanically they were nice, but I was never a fan of the body style, especially the ones with the shopping cart handle on the back. The previous generation ones looked better IMO.
Noone asked if the 2Jz is better than the LS1. Noone asked if the LS1 can run 6's with a stock block. Noone asked if a Supra can beat a Viper.
The OP only asked if anyone's ever seen a Toyota Supra with an LS series engine sitting in the bay.
No one asked, but many sure did blindly state. Corrections were in order. Ignorance is an ugly thing. However, I think the current threadgoers understand now so you can rest assured there will be no more off-topic posts. It's gonna be okay, buddy.
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Found this on streetfire, out exactly what your looking for, but impressive none the less. Note HUGE turbo in front.
What motor is that? SBC?
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Mechanically they were nice, but I was never a fan of the body style, especially the ones with the shopping cart handle on the back. The previous generation ones looked better IMO.
You have something against shopping cart handles?
I like them on my car.
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Ya know what, it's a great idea. Personally I have always loved the 93-98 Supra body styling. I would love to own one, but the resale value is absolutely insane.
I'm plannin on gettin one after my Trans Am is paid off just for the fact I like them. But to make them sound invincible is just plane ignorance. You wanna talk about how they are so great, then why hasn't the issues with crankwalk on the higher HP 5/6 speed cars been brought up?? Seems like you almost have to run a multi disc clutch to keep it from happening & those bitches are expensive.
I have been reading in Supraforums & there have been many people even previous owners who recognize this problem & they are still tryin to completely resolve this issue. There have been lots of cases of blown motors due to this problem. Even on motors with under 4k miles on a fresh rebuild. So Supras are definetly not the "best" or "invincible" when it comes to reliability on modified motors.
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so has this been done or not...as i am just about to start doing this...in a 95 n/a supra...so any advie help on the swap would be ace...
jealous. how are you going to get the motor to fit in the bay? are you modifying the k-member yourself, ordering a custom one or sending it off somewhere? what about the computer and wiring? i've got the same questions, i'm interested in this as well.
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Please explain to me what psi has to do with anything? do you know how PSI works? Do you even realise that if a camaro and a supra had the same turbo and the ls1 is making 600hp@10psi and a supra making 600hp @15psi, it only shows that the supra has a DISADVANTAGE if you and I are trying to fill a 55 gallon drum with water and I have a garden hose and you have a hose from a fire truck, and the flow from the water source is the same. who is going to fill the drum faster and which hose will have a higher psi?
Something tells me you dont know so I will tell you, the garden hose will have a much higher psi since its smaller and more restrictive. but the firehose will have a lower psi, but the drum will fill at the same rate.
With the same turbo making the same power between a 5.7 and a 3.0. the flow is the exact same, even if the 3.0 is using more boost(psi) to make that power. the flow is still the same
Yes, Thankyou! This is a point I try to make people understand when they talk about supras running more boost than the other car that has a blown high cubed motor and bring up that excuse when they loose. And guys 2JZ engines aren't for everyone.
Yes, Thankyou! This is a point I try to make people understand when they talk about supras running more boost than the other car that has a blown high cubed motor and bring up that excuse when they loose. And guys 2JZ engines aren't for everyone.
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I dont agree at all. here is a prime example, Mightmouse on here, was the best example of a street turbo ls1. when he had 6 speed I beleive he still had a/c.( not sure though) the car was good for low 10's and most importantly a real street car. he has now gone automatic and running mid 9's
Cody Phillips. 6 speed, supra full interior,a/c, power steering. all creature comforts intact and runs 9.00@163 and is street driven, same class of car as Mightymouse's. not an all out race car, just a really fast street car. here is a video of one of his street tuned
6 speed,9.00 flat 1/4 full interior, a/c sound system and power steering. I dont see how its inferior.
What the hell is that crap? It took like 10 seconds to spool! By the time it spools whatever race he's in is over Unless he races on "spooling starts" you know like rolling starts?