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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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I need to knock my 60fts down and figured I would start with getting rid of my stock Torque Arm and getting an adjustable one and only problem is I have 3" true duals so I am not sure what all will fit.

I am looking for the best adj Tq Arm that will fit with 3" True Duals?

Any suggestions?

I searched and found this one. It shows to be installed on a car with TD's in the pics at bottom of page. My exhaust looks pretty close to the exhaust in the pics.

http://www.umiperformance.com/2205

Any others to chose from?

What would you guys recommend?

Lloyd
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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Im running a Spohn chassis mount, along with my 3" TD setup. Its a pretty tight fit, but I also "massaged" the floor pan too,so
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Most of the trans mounted arms will work. then you can get a relocation cross member to take it off the trans. I had a full length BMR and their cross member that worked with TSP duals. When I upgraded to a Wolfe torque arm, I had to lose the duals.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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top fuel is right a full leingth with that crossmember will work lloyd...

also some coilovers up front adjustable will help a bunch in traction
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Most of the trans mounted arms will work. then you can get a relocation cross member to take it off the trans. I had a full length BMR and their cross member that worked with TSP duals. When I upgraded to a Wolfe torque arm, I had to lose the duals.
Not to hi jack the thread...

what exhaust setups will fit the wolfe?
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by noregretz999
Not to hi jack the thread...

what exhaust setups will fit the wolfe?
pretty much any Y-pipe setup. I'm running a 3" QTP ypipe with the flowmaster merge.
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What about this one?

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1019

It was suggested from another site.

Anyone suggest a better one or have problems with this one?

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That one bolts in where the tunnel brace is. You can make it work, but you'll have ground clearance issues.

Whats the long term usage or goals for this car going to be? If you want to keep the duals and the setup isnt going to be radical, I would just stay with a full length with a relocation cross member. Maybe invest in a chromoly one to save some weight. It'll work good, allow you to run any exhaust you want, and retain good ground clearance. If its a more drag oriented setup, select the torque arm you want first and deal with whatever exhaust you can fit around it.
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I am also running a full length adjustable TA with a relocation X member and TSP TD's.
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yea, street car that goes to track 3-4 times a year.

It weighs 3760 lbs with me in it and runs 7.10's in the 1/8 now and gets a 1.59-1.62 60 ft with stock T/A, just want to get the 60 fts in the 1.50-1.55 range N/A and maybe put a 100-150 shot of NOS later in the year.

The exhaust must stay on the car so I'll work around that.

Thaks for the advice guys.

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A jegster torque arm tucks up very nice, is pretty cheap, and seems to be very well built wont be sure on how it pefrorms until the weather breaks.
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Originally Posted by NightTrain66
I need to knock my 60fts down and figured I would start with getting rid of my stock Torque Arm and getting an adjustable one and only problem is I have 3" true duals so I am not sure what all will fit.

I am looking for the best adj Tq Arm that will fit with 3" True Duals?

Any suggestions?

I searched and found this one. It shows to be installed on a car with TD's in the pics at bottom of page. My exhaust looks pretty close to the exhaust in the pics.

http://www.umiperformance.com/2205

Any others to chose from?

What would you guys recommend?

Lloyd
The best option (but not the least expensive) would be doing a full length adjustable style torque arm with a relocation crossmember. Most of your tunnel mounts are going to cost you ground clearance,are going to be noisy in operation, and are not good for handling. Here is a link to our page with the torque arms-

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F-bodySuspension.htm

Here is a link to the relocation kits-

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F-bodyChassis.htm

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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lloyd dont forget some adjustable shocks...that will def help get you there
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what about madmans torque arm ?
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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I'm using a UMI arm with the BMR relocation mount. This set up clears my TSP duals. Like the above posts stated a good set of front shocks also make a big difference. I got some Afco's from MadMan give him a call. The torque arm also made the rear track truer. I was surprised that the arm made that much of a difference. This set up knocked a soild tenth off my 60'. Went from 1.5's to 1.4's. There is more left with more passes and some tweaking of the shock settings.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Hello Lloyd,

If you have a true dual set-up similar to the TSP like we show in our installation pictures then a tunnel mounted torque arm is not going to clear. Our transmission mounted set-up is designed to offer additional clearance for most true dual set-ups.

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I went with the UMI Tq Arm and mount.

http://www.umiperformance.com/2205?category_id=130

I went with the Chrome Moly # 2205.

http://www.umiperformance.com/2210?category_id=131

I also got this mount to get the Tq Arm off of the trans.

Should have plenty of clearance and if not, maybe a lil tweaking of my exhaust but nothing like the chassis monuts would require.

Maybe I can knock off .05-.10 from my 60 ft over my stock Tq Arm. . . . . maybe I am dreaming, lol. We'll see in a cpl of weeks.

Lloyd
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Originally Posted by NightTrain66
I need to knock my 60fts down and figured I would start with getting rid of my stock Torque Arm and getting an adjustable one and only problem is I have 3" true duals so I am not sure what all will fit.

I am looking for the best adj Tq Arm that will fit with 3" True Duals?

Any suggestions?

I searched and found this one. It shows to be installed on a car with TD's in the pics at bottom of page. My exhaust looks pretty close to the exhaust in the pics.

http://www.umiperformance.com/2205

Any others to chose from?

What would you guys recommend?

Lloyd
Llyod, I was in the same situation. I was running a 3" xpipe true duals dumped at the axle before I installed a Spohn adj. torquearm. Well, I had to make decision and proritized what was more important to me. The Spohn T/A. Now I just run my exhaust: 3" Dynomax bullet mufflers right off the JetHot long tubes collectors. Saves more weight, clears the torque arm which is a tunnel mounted piece, and still have a freeflowing exhaust. See video below and hear 'em.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Default Tq Arm is installed.

There is a DEFINITE difference in the way the car feels and the way the car transfers weight with light throttle depression compared to the stock Torque Arm. It definitely "feels" better but no launches with burn outs to see how it does. There are really no good streets anyway around here.

You can defintely feel the trans shift harder in every gear when just cruising around.

I'll have to wait until I hit the track although I am definitely happy with it so far. The track will tell the true story.

Went on with NO problems or modifications. I was real impressed with not having to clearance the tunnel, move the exhaust a lil, etc. it was a direct bolt in and I guess I got lucky that the exhaust shop gave me that much clearance when they installed my exhaust even though I had a stock Torque Arm. I have heard others had to modify or tweak the exhaust a lil for clearance but no such problem on my car.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Lloyd, I am glad to hear you like the set-up and installation went well!

Thanks again

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