Efficiency of the FI setups out there II (Final Results)
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Efficiency of the FI setups out there II (Final Results)
It has been intresting researching all the kits there and getting an estimate on the gains per psi from each kit.
Here are the results soo far:
*Turbo Tech 60-1:
1. stock motor
At 8lbs of boost....12.1 rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 3lbs of boost......30.6rwhp per psi.
3. Stock motor, heads 9.5C/R
At 7lbs of boost.....14.8rwhp per psi
4. Stock displacment motor with 8.75C/R
At 7lbs of boost......17rwhp per psi
AVG: 18.62rwhp per psi.
*Turbo Tech T76:
1. Built motor+heads and cam with 8.9C/R
At 10lbs of boost......19.2rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 8lbs of boost.......18.8rwhp per psi.
3. 348CID low C/R
At 13lbs of boost.......19.4rwhp per psi.
AVG: 19.13rwhp per psi.
*Turbo Tech T80(Race Kit):
347 motor 8.75C/R
At 11lbs of boost.....28.7rwhp per psi.
At 16lbs of boost.....28.4rwhp per psi.
AVG: 28.55rwhp per psi.
*P-1SC:
1. Stock motor
At 6lbs of boost.....22.6rwhp per psi.
2. 347CID Built
At 11lbs of boost .....20.1rwhp per psi.
3. Stock motor
At 7lbs of boost.......28rwhp per psi.
AVG: 23.56rwhp per psi.
*D-1SC:
1. Stock motor 9.5 C/R
At 4lbs of boost.....30.7rwhp per psi.
2. Cammed motor with 9.1C/R
At 15lbs of boost......20.6rwhp per psi.
3. 372CID motor with 9.3-9.5C/R
At 4lbs of boost......20.75rwhp per psi.
4.stock motor
At 8lbs of boost.......20rwhp per psi.
5. stock motor
At 8lbs of boost.......20.75rwhp per psi.
6. Stock motor with 918's.
At 7lbs of boost.......24rwhp per psi.
7. heads and cam
At 7lbs of boost.......23.2rwhp per psi.
8. Cammed with PRC dual springs
At 7.5lbs of boost......22rwhp per psi.
AVG: 23.85rwhp per psi.
*F-1:
1. Stock displacment with 9.2 C/R, heads and cam.
At 15lbs of boost.......20.73rwhp per psi.
*Votrech:
*YS Trim:
1. 348CID 9.1 C/R.
At 17lbs of boost.....23.29rwhp per psi.
*G-Trim Aftercooled:
1. Heads/Cam
At 7.5lbs of boost.....18.6rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 8lbs of boost......16.5rwhp per psi.
3. Stock motor
At 11lbs of boost......19.2rwhp per psi.
4. Cammed motor
At 9lbs of boost.......20rwhp per psi.
AVG: 18.57rwhp per psi.
*V2(SQ):
1. Stock motor.
At 8lbs of boost.......15rwhp per psi.
*QMP:
*T63:
1. Heads/Cam 9.5C/R
At 13lbs of boost.......21.6rwhp per psi.
2. Stock displacment motor with 9.5C/R
At 15lbs of boost........14.53rwhp per psi.
AVG: 18.0rwhp per psi.
*T76:
1. Stock Motor with 918's.
At 10lbs of boost.... 38rwhp per psi.
At 14lbs of boost.... 29.6rwhp per psi.
At 13.5lbs of boost.......34.4rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 7.5lbs of boost......20rwhp per psi.
3.Stock motor
At 11lbs of boost.......23.6rwhp per psi.
At 9lbs of boost.........23.3rwhp per psi.
AVG: 28.15rwhp per psi.
*CAS TT:
1. Cammed motor stock displacment
At 11lbs of boost.....19.2rwhp per psi.
2. Heads/Cam 9.1C/R stock displacment.
At 11lbs of boost.....17.7rwhp per psi.
At 5lbs of boost.......24rwhp per psi.
AVG: 20.3rwhp per psi.
*Incon:
*Stage 1
1. Stage 1 incon + Heads/Cam
At 4lbs of boost.....26.25rwhp per psi.
2. Stage 1 incon stock motor
At 4.3lbs of boost.....29.0rwhp per psi
3. Stage 1 incon stock motor
At 6.2lbs of boost.....21.9rwhp per psi.
4. Stage 1 incon stock motor
At 5lbs of boost.......29.4rwhp per psi.
At 6.5lbs of boost.....24.7rwhp per psi.
5. Stage 1 Incon stock motor
At 5lbs of boost......32rwhp per psi.
AVG: 27.2rwhp per psi.
*Stage 2 Incon:
1. Stock motor
At 6lbs of boost......31.5rwhp per psi.
2. Stage 2 Incon stock motor
At 10lbs of boost.....34rwhp per psi.
3. Stage 2 Incon stock motor
At 12lbs of boost.....22rwhp per psi.
4. Stage 2 Incon 360CID motor
At 10lbs of boost.....27rwhp per psi.
AVG: 28.6rwhp per psi.
*PowerDyne:
1. Cammed motor stock displacment
At 6lbs of boost......16.8rwhp per psi.
2. Heads/Cam stock displacment
At 8lbs of boost......10.37rwhp per psi.
3. Stock motor.
At6lbs of boost.......14.6rwhp per psi.
4. stock motor.
At 3lbs of boost......17.3rwhp per psi.
5. Heads/ Cam stock displacment.
At 6lbs of boost......13.5rwhp per psi.
AVG: 14.5rwhp per psi.
*Magnacharger:
*Non-Intercooled kit
1. Heads/Cam motor
At 5lbs of boost.......17rwhp per psi
2. Stock Motor
At 5lbs of boost........11.6rwhp per psi
3. Stock motor
At 5lbs of boost........13.8rwhp per psi.
AVG: 14.1rwhp per psi.
*Intercooled Magna kit
1. Heads/Cam motor
At 7.5lbs of boost.......16.6rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 7.5lbs of boost.......18.12rwhp per psi.
3. LS6 heads and Cam
At 7.5lbs of boost.......19.6rwhp per psi.
4. Stock motor
At 7lbs of boost..........16.5rwhp per psi.
AVG: 17.7rwhp per psi.
*RMS Turbo Kit:
*PTE 70:
Stock motor
At 10lbs of boost...........27.5rwhp per psi.
At 11.5lbs of boost........25.8rwhp per psi.
AVG: 26.65rwhp per psi.
*STS Remote Turbo:
*T60:
1. Stock motor
At 5lbs of boost.......19.2rwhp per psi.
At 8lbs of boost........23.6rwhp per psi.
1. Stock motor
At 5lbs of boost........22rwhp per psi.
At 8lbs of boost........18.75rwhp per psi.
AVG: 20.88rwhp per psi.
Here are the results soo far:
*Turbo Tech 60-1:
1. stock motor
At 8lbs of boost....12.1 rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 3lbs of boost......30.6rwhp per psi.
3. Stock motor, heads 9.5C/R
At 7lbs of boost.....14.8rwhp per psi
4. Stock displacment motor with 8.75C/R
At 7lbs of boost......17rwhp per psi
AVG: 18.62rwhp per psi.
*Turbo Tech T76:
1. Built motor+heads and cam with 8.9C/R
At 10lbs of boost......19.2rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 8lbs of boost.......18.8rwhp per psi.
3. 348CID low C/R
At 13lbs of boost.......19.4rwhp per psi.
AVG: 19.13rwhp per psi.
*Turbo Tech T80(Race Kit):
347 motor 8.75C/R
At 11lbs of boost.....28.7rwhp per psi.
At 16lbs of boost.....28.4rwhp per psi.
AVG: 28.55rwhp per psi.
*P-1SC:
1. Stock motor
At 6lbs of boost.....22.6rwhp per psi.
2. 347CID Built
At 11lbs of boost .....20.1rwhp per psi.
3. Stock motor
At 7lbs of boost.......28rwhp per psi.
AVG: 23.56rwhp per psi.
*D-1SC:
1. Stock motor 9.5 C/R
At 4lbs of boost.....30.7rwhp per psi.
2. Cammed motor with 9.1C/R
At 15lbs of boost......20.6rwhp per psi.
3. 372CID motor with 9.3-9.5C/R
At 4lbs of boost......20.75rwhp per psi.
4.stock motor
At 8lbs of boost.......20rwhp per psi.
5. stock motor
At 8lbs of boost.......20.75rwhp per psi.
6. Stock motor with 918's.
At 7lbs of boost.......24rwhp per psi.
7. heads and cam
At 7lbs of boost.......23.2rwhp per psi.
8. Cammed with PRC dual springs
At 7.5lbs of boost......22rwhp per psi.
AVG: 23.85rwhp per psi.
*F-1:
1. Stock displacment with 9.2 C/R, heads and cam.
At 15lbs of boost.......20.73rwhp per psi.
*Votrech:
*YS Trim:
1. 348CID 9.1 C/R.
At 17lbs of boost.....23.29rwhp per psi.
*G-Trim Aftercooled:
1. Heads/Cam
At 7.5lbs of boost.....18.6rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 8lbs of boost......16.5rwhp per psi.
3. Stock motor
At 11lbs of boost......19.2rwhp per psi.
4. Cammed motor
At 9lbs of boost.......20rwhp per psi.
AVG: 18.57rwhp per psi.
*V2(SQ):
1. Stock motor.
At 8lbs of boost.......15rwhp per psi.
*QMP:
*T63:
1. Heads/Cam 9.5C/R
At 13lbs of boost.......21.6rwhp per psi.
2. Stock displacment motor with 9.5C/R
At 15lbs of boost........14.53rwhp per psi.
AVG: 18.0rwhp per psi.
*T76:
1. Stock Motor with 918's.
At 10lbs of boost.... 38rwhp per psi.
At 14lbs of boost.... 29.6rwhp per psi.
At 13.5lbs of boost.......34.4rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 7.5lbs of boost......20rwhp per psi.
3.Stock motor
At 11lbs of boost.......23.6rwhp per psi.
At 9lbs of boost.........23.3rwhp per psi.
AVG: 28.15rwhp per psi.
*CAS TT:
1. Cammed motor stock displacment
At 11lbs of boost.....19.2rwhp per psi.
2. Heads/Cam 9.1C/R stock displacment.
At 11lbs of boost.....17.7rwhp per psi.
At 5lbs of boost.......24rwhp per psi.
AVG: 20.3rwhp per psi.
*Incon:
*Stage 1
1. Stage 1 incon + Heads/Cam
At 4lbs of boost.....26.25rwhp per psi.
2. Stage 1 incon stock motor
At 4.3lbs of boost.....29.0rwhp per psi
3. Stage 1 incon stock motor
At 6.2lbs of boost.....21.9rwhp per psi.
4. Stage 1 incon stock motor
At 5lbs of boost.......29.4rwhp per psi.
At 6.5lbs of boost.....24.7rwhp per psi.
5. Stage 1 Incon stock motor
At 5lbs of boost......32rwhp per psi.
AVG: 27.2rwhp per psi.
*Stage 2 Incon:
1. Stock motor
At 6lbs of boost......31.5rwhp per psi.
2. Stage 2 Incon stock motor
At 10lbs of boost.....34rwhp per psi.
3. Stage 2 Incon stock motor
At 12lbs of boost.....22rwhp per psi.
4. Stage 2 Incon 360CID motor
At 10lbs of boost.....27rwhp per psi.
AVG: 28.6rwhp per psi.
*PowerDyne:
1. Cammed motor stock displacment
At 6lbs of boost......16.8rwhp per psi.
2. Heads/Cam stock displacment
At 8lbs of boost......10.37rwhp per psi.
3. Stock motor.
At6lbs of boost.......14.6rwhp per psi.
4. stock motor.
At 3lbs of boost......17.3rwhp per psi.
5. Heads/ Cam stock displacment.
At 6lbs of boost......13.5rwhp per psi.
AVG: 14.5rwhp per psi.
*Magnacharger:
*Non-Intercooled kit
1. Heads/Cam motor
At 5lbs of boost.......17rwhp per psi
2. Stock Motor
At 5lbs of boost........11.6rwhp per psi
3. Stock motor
At 5lbs of boost........13.8rwhp per psi.
AVG: 14.1rwhp per psi.
*Intercooled Magna kit
1. Heads/Cam motor
At 7.5lbs of boost.......16.6rwhp per psi.
2. Stock motor
At 7.5lbs of boost.......18.12rwhp per psi.
3. LS6 heads and Cam
At 7.5lbs of boost.......19.6rwhp per psi.
4. Stock motor
At 7lbs of boost..........16.5rwhp per psi.
AVG: 17.7rwhp per psi.
*RMS Turbo Kit:
*PTE 70:
Stock motor
At 10lbs of boost...........27.5rwhp per psi.
At 11.5lbs of boost........25.8rwhp per psi.
AVG: 26.65rwhp per psi.
*STS Remote Turbo:
*T60:
1. Stock motor
At 5lbs of boost.......19.2rwhp per psi.
At 8lbs of boost........23.6rwhp per psi.
1. Stock motor
At 5lbs of boost........22rwhp per psi.
At 8lbs of boost........18.75rwhp per psi.
AVG: 20.88rwhp per psi.
Last edited by LSs1Power; 08-10-2005 at 03:55 PM.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I hope you factored in that I am dynoing thru an unlocked turbo 400 transmission. Thru an M6 a setup like mine would have hit 800rwhp already.
Most of the dyno's i was looking for has before and after the SC or Turbo. If i got before and after numbers it doesnt matter if its on 9inch ford or TH400 because we are looking for a percentage of horsepower per psi not peak or highest rwhp numbers(Unless u changed to TH400 after the SC).. What did u dyno before and after the SC at what boost?
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Well not sure if you understand my point, but a A4 car with a locked converter will dyno a lot more than a unlocked A3 like mine, and the A4 locked up will still be a bit lower than an M6...
But here are my numbers:
h,c, i, locked, 375rwhp/415rwtq different engine
422 stroker locked, 475rwhp/505rwtq, different engine
Stock I have seen 98's dyno 285-290rwhp.
If I add back in 10% to my 746#'s, I am at 820rwhp with an M6.
But here are my numbers:
h,c, i, locked, 375rwhp/415rwtq different engine
422 stroker locked, 475rwhp/505rwtq, different engine
Stock I have seen 98's dyno 285-290rwhp.
If I add back in 10% to my 746#'s, I am at 820rwhp with an M6.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Well not sure if you understand my point, but a A4 car with a locked converter will dyno a lot more than a unlocked A3 like mine, and the A4 locked up will still be a bit lower than an M6...
But here are my numbers:
h,c, i, locked, 375rwhp/415rwtq different engine
422 stroker locked, 475rwhp/505rwtq, different engine
Stock I have seen 98's dyno 285-290rwhp.
If I add back in 10% to my 746#'s, I am at 820rwhp with an M6.
But here are my numbers:
h,c, i, locked, 375rwhp/415rwtq different engine
422 stroker locked, 475rwhp/505rwtq, different engine
Stock I have seen 98's dyno 285-290rwhp.
If I add back in 10% to my 746#'s, I am at 820rwhp with an M6.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
290rwhp stock A4 bonestock
800rwhp to equalize to M6 entries... I think you need to actually factor in a correction for all the different transmissions.
800rwhp to equalize to M6 entries... I think you need to actually factor in a correction for all the different transmissions.
Alright how about this... I will use 350rwhp for an estimate for ur car before the SC. Thats will yield 26.4rwhp per psi using 800rwhp at 17psi. Is that better?
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Man my TTI 60-1 kit sucks. Who made the 30hp per psi @ 3psi Those are some damn nice gains. Great job on the post it`s nice to see what these systems can do.
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Originally Posted by cablebandit
stock 346 and dynomax muffler....no dyno...m6
added turbotech t-76 8 psi 471/542
low compression 348 home ported heads
t-76 13psi 573/676
added turbotech t-76 8 psi 471/542
low compression 348 home ported heads
t-76 13psi 573/676
Thanks for the info.... We have a new AVG for the T76 now.
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Originally Posted by MYTURBOT/A
Man my TTI 60-1 kit sucks. Who made the 30hp per psi @ 3psi Those are some damn nice gains. Great job on the post it`s nice to see what these systems can do.
Its really hard to remember whos car, but i found it when i searched on this forum. I was impressed too, but we will find out if its normal or not after we get more T60-1 results. Thats the beauty of taking AVG of each kit.
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Thanks for the support guys.... Im going to be updating this thread as we go on.... Im sure more people are getting into the FI. I cant wait to add the LS1SPEED turbo kit with the T88 Turbo.... Its going to be intresting to see how much they gain per psi.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Oh I see, I misunderstood, sorry about that.
I'd figure 380rwhp yah with my 230/236//115 cam and 6.0 heads and 9:1 compression.
I'd figure 380rwhp yah with my 230/236//115 cam and 6.0 heads and 9:1 compression.