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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Anyone know of a reasonbaly priced place to get a head cam swap done in florida?

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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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We have our own shop. Fort Luaderdale Area. LS1's in the family. Give me a PM if your interested.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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I would do it, but I don't know if I have the time. You can get it done at RevXtreme. If you can't get ahold of them for some reason you can pm him at DINOZ, or you can go to his website @ www.revxtreme.com/forums or www.revxtreme.com
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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pm ed everyone!!!
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 03:53 AM
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http://www.nlperformance.com/
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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He said resonably priced
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he also wants it at a performance shop hehelolahahahehehehehhmuahahehehlol joker joker jest jest
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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I can pretty much say that my prices are along the line of any other actual shop such as RevX.

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You have a PM.

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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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I stand with NLP!! I have had them do all my mods and have always been happy with their work! Knowing its done right is worth it to me. Besides, I think they are inline with others or very very close.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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no i dont doubt norris does a great job i just cant afford 2k for the install if it was gonna be that much id find the time to do it my self 2k buys me alot of time (im a colledge student not a high paid lawyer) you gotta look at oppertunity cost here for example @ $10hr id be better off doing my own install if i would do it in less than 200 hours.. see my point .. anaway i think i found a good shop that had reasonable prices
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Actually the $2K I quoted was for install with parts and tuning. This may or may not make a difference to anyone. If it he has all the parts the price is $1850 for the install and tuning. No doubt there will be folks doing it for less.

But like I said, if there is a dedicated performance shop with years os LSx experience and everything to do it all in house (in-house dyno, full time in house tuner, parts inventory) that will actually back what they do (read has proper shop insurance) and qulified help that will do it for a lot less, more power to them.

Now if I was working out of my garage with no insurance or overhead, a completely different story. Been there, done that.

Not trying to get into a war of words by any means, just stating my side of things. Good day all.

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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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ok so $1850 - $450 tune = 1400 which aint too bad i guess ive been quoted $700 from icon in texas & $1000 from another fl shop, but everyone is different

BTW, dont get me wrong mike, i respect you and your shop alot and would love to have my car done there its just a budgetary thing if i was a tad wit more wealthy.. id definately go to nlp all the time but unfourtineately my entire car has been done on amazing deals..To clarify, my car is not cheep or substandard and all the work done has been profesional work done by some of the best shops in fl. BUT it always has been done as a favor or some through some connection that has got me crazy deals.... being i do not have many ties in the performance indstury ive been kinda fucked out of getting great deals on this type of work..

in other indsturies ive been luckey enough to run into shops that have made it big but were just starting up when i started to bring them business. because of this they've always cut me exceptional deals for my loyality and loud mouth i guess because ive always tried and go out of my way to bring them as much business as possible (i keep a rolodex of shops cards in my wallet LOL)

anaways mike, mabye in a few yrs ill have enough money to do business

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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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I'd like to apologize to Mike in front of everyone. I have always told everyone he has high prices. When I was looking at my reciepts today, because he had sent me a pm. I found that the price I was thinking included the clutch, but in fact it did not. Mike quoted me a high side of 2000-2500 max, Typically he said the trans would run 1100-1300 normal. But if it's really screwed up it could be up to 2500. Well looking at my reciept I have a bill for $1112.26 for the trans parts and labor. Would have been $350 cheaper if they didn't have to drop the tranny and re-install it. Anyhow the clutch and new hydraulics was $563.85 (ls6 with new everything) All of this is right inline with what Mike said it would cost, and I believe that to be fairly reasonable. Just wanted to let everyone know that he is not as high priced as I thought. Just because he quotes you a high number doesn't mean it's actually going to cost that. He quotes high so you aren't angry when you get the bill. Good business ethics if you ask me. I've never personally done business with him, but I would imagine he is reasonable and his customers typically will attest to that.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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+1 777

Norris' prices are nearly exactly teh same at RX. its the cost of a legitimate performance shop with overhead that has to stand behind their product and services.

if you cant afford a high performance shop, there is no disrespect at all in learning it from a buddy or picking up a service manual and doing it yourself. then you will realize how much work is involved. on MANY items its better off for me to send it to a pro. we just have to save up a little longer than we all want to before droping teh wallet for these damn cars!
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Wanna play gotta pay. Either in money or in a lot of hard labor and mistakes.
Head and cam installs take time, takes a lot out of you as it isn't the easiest job.
Then there is the additional tuning.
I believe Norris's price is fair.
It does seem like quite a bit of cash until you look at the dealers price to do the same job. Probally over 3000 with no tuning. Now that will hurt the wallet.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 03:55 AM
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ive had a few sub $1000 offers now so im makeing progress....and gator is right there is no shame in doing it your self ..

my ideal situation is to find someone to help me do the install... see i dont mind doing the work ..i just dont want to **** anything up or take a week to do it... so far ive done the majority my own installs (mostly easy ****) and i would like to continue the tradition but at the same time this car is far too nice to be a "learner" car. I wont do the work unles i know i can do it to a professional grade... if i had professinal help then the problem is solved.

As of my last few pm's its lookin like i got a few cost effective quality options that i will persue in the next few weeks. if i had tons of money then NLP or REV EX would be great options as ive recently spoke with both and they both seem ideal to deal with. Unfourtineately between the house, bmw, and T\A and not working (colledge) money is getting kinda sparce so i gotta make the best of my resources


thanks for all the help everyone and if there is anyone else willing to help out by all means throw me a pm !!

-john
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Hey All,

Thanks for the props from everyone for sure and is very appreciated. The one thing I try to tell folks is that I generally do not cut my price or price match just to get a job. I can understand someone calling and getting the best price and go with it as long as it all turns out well. From my experience we usually end up with a long term customer once they come and it is due to the quality of work and customer service and "fair" pricing.

I have had some negative experiences with cutting a price to get a job in where something goes wrong, be it small or large or with a customer supplied part, then now there is tension potentially on both sides. I have also seen cars worked on at several different "reputable" shops and the thought process or ways of doing things are different between the shops and problems can arise there. I will not say every time someone builds a car like this it is inevitable to have a problem, just more likely.

Bottom line is I have done this for a long time, some 30 years, and seen a lot of things over that time. I do not want to come across that I do not need your business if I will not compete for it price wise. Though our shop is almost always full, we generally have 20-30 cars at all times here, I still want as much as I can handle. Right now we are pretty much done for the year except for some small one days jobs we can squeeze in. I believe I counted 25 or 26 yesterday when I stopped by the shop. In most cases once a client has us work on his or her car once, they are a consistant repeat customer.

Okay, back to the football games. Have a great weekend and thanks again.

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"In most cases once a client has us work on his or her car once, they are a consistant repeat customer."

Count me in on that one! Jpr, Also make sure the shop you're going all the way to texas for is worth it... Every time I've been to NLP there were cars there from other states... Texas has a section on this board you could ask about the quality of the shops work if you haven't already.
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i think its just texas has alot more shops and alot more compedition.. so its just a matter of economics.. but being i recently spoke with some of you all and have a few value based options ill probally be getting it done locally ...just still stamping out the detalis on exactly which parts as of the moment

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+1 777

Norris' prices are nearly exactly teh same at RX. its the cost of a legitimate performance shop with overhead that has to stand behind their product and services.

if you cant afford a high performance shop, there is no disrespect at all in learning it from a buddy or picking up a service manual and doing it yourself. then you will realize how much work is involved. on MANY items its better off for me to send it to a pro. we just have to save up a little longer than we all want to before droping teh wallet for these damn cars!
I agree with some stuff. I just put in poly mounts and would definatly pay someone to do it next time. It was frustrating, painful, and took the better part of two days to get done. Never will I do this install again.
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