C6Z06 Bone-Stock on Stock Tires--11.34 at 127.13

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Old 03-24-2006, 09:05 PM
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Spur of the moment this afternoon, decided to try to make some passes at Cecil County Dragway in Rising Sun, Maryland. Their version of Friday Night Non-Street Racing. So lot of cars, mainly young drivers. Crowd was about 150 cars racing and 500 more spectators.

Weather was around 50 degrees and it had been cloudy all day and threatening showers, that never materialized. I measured the DA on my first run at a positive 100 feet.

Track official warned me during Tech Inspection that the 11.50 rule would be enforced; guess the C6Z06 rep is getting around. I walked both lanes to the 660' traps and found the base rubber was decent but devoid of any VHT-stickiness. So I expected modest traction and adjusted accordingly.

I ran the car bone-stock on stock tires. Zero mods. Front tires were at 30 psi and the rears I set to 27 psi. Cooled the car for 45 minutes after the two-hour trip thru Friday traffic. Hit the staging lights at about 185 degrees (H2O).

Here are the slip times on the best of two passes:

60'........1.853 (launch rpm 3000 with a fast release and progressive throttle squeeze)
330'......4.964
660'......7.461 @ 100.52
1000'.....9.569
1320'...11.345 @ 127.13

I had a significant amount of wheel spin on the 1-2 shift but much less on the 2-3 and 3-4. And managed to get the shift points very close to 7000, which was my target. Did some lift on the shifts but they were very fast. Been practicing that every day.

Believe with some better traction on the 1-2 shift there is room for improvement, same for the 60'. But tonight it felt pretty good and my shifts were better than on the previous 12 passes in the car.

Tried a second pass before heading home for dinner. 11.50 @ 127.14. Unfortunately, got too aggressive with the throttle and spun the launch to a 2.03 60'. Rest of the run was fine.

No warning. No boot. Cecil is still open for me.

All in all, a good evening of non-street racing.

Best to all,

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wow you keep getting it lower and lower. Do we know when the mods will begin???
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Originally Posted by mpe488
wow you keep getting it lower and lower. Do we know when the mods will begin???
I'm a stock guy. No mods planned. I'm trying to drive around the inherent ECU nanny. Do run DRs sometimes and confront torque management when I do. My efforts are focused on finding the limits of the car with me driving, rather than trying to go faster by adding rwhp. Understand why folks mod. But that's not me.

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Damn Ranger i've been waiting to hear this in awhile & here you're man impressed everyone with STOCK Z ON STOCK TIRES

That must be documented with vid...way to go buddy & good luck in your next flight on the Z

Oh btw mileage on clock , just curious ???

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Originally Posted by bad95killer
Oh btw mileage on clock , just curious ???...
Thanks for the kind words, guys.

Killer, cracked through 2800 on the OD on the way home from Cecil.

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Thanks again for posting your efforts on our site, we really appreciate it.

When you say bone stock, that is with the stock filter on and everything?

I'm going to be in the market for a 02 Z06 very soon, I have read your posts about racing then on here and Corvetteforum with great interest.
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Oh, and that 100mph/7.4 1/8th kills me, Any way to get a 7.2 out of it?
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Isn't officially the fastest STOCK C6 Z06 so far ?!!

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
...When you say bone stock, that is with the stock filter on and everything?

I'm going to be in the market for a 02 Z06 very soon, I have read your posts about racing then on here and Corvetteforum with great interest.
John, Car is 100% factory, zero mods; stock air cleaner in place. Half a tank of gas. No effort to shed extraneous weight, like floor mats and 30 pounds of track stuff in the rear compartments.

Regarding your plans for the 02 Z06, drop me a PM if I can answer any questions about the car/techniques.

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Originally Posted by bad95killer
Isn't officially the fastest STOCK C6 Z06 so far ?!!
On the boards I follow, bone stock, so far...

my 11.34 is the fastest for stock tires and my 11.20 is fastest for DRs.

Suspect by Fall 2006, the stock tire record will be in the low 11.2s and the DR record will be in the 10.8s. Don't know who the holder will be. Suspect more than a few owners running DRs will break rear ends. And, of course, most owners who pursue fast times won't keep their cars stock. So the field of bone-stock "class" racers isn't large.

It will take 30-50 passes to get the rhythm of the LS7 embedded. Perhaps the biggest challenge is making more than a couple passes in without being told to park it for lack of the sub-11.50 rollcage. So I suspect track rentals will become the venue of choice for running fast times.

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Awesome times, a Friend of mine tells me your progress with all your Z06's all the time of what someone is able to do with awesome driving.

Impressive indeed, you have a full second on me But alot more cubes but I have more mods and I'm SLOW
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Thats sick fast. I want one of these cars SOOO bad. Unfortunatley I dont wanna pay $1000 a month to get one plus a crazy insurance premium. But to those who do own them enjoy them. I truly beleive its the best American Sports car/Muscle car ever built.
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Hopefully you'll run on a sat. TnT in the future. I wanted to go last night, damn...
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Ranger, I saw someone post that they picked up big power on they dyno with no air filter, so I'm wondering what you would run with no filter at all.

When I get a Z06 I will pm you because I want to take my time modding it.
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I think your water temp has some what of a factor on running so well in all seriousness. You kept it nice and cool. When I ran pop's 06 the temps were in the 220 range. From my understanding these cars pull quite a bit of timing when hot. I wouldn't be suprised if they richen up as well. Way to go man!!! Just showed pops this thread and he's decided on comming up there and making a couple of passes as well in his 06. Our local track (Delmar) doesn't hook too good on street tires.
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Congrats Ranger! Any plans to run at Capitol any time this year? I would like to see ya run.
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Originally Posted by DAPSUPRSLO
I think your water temp has some what of a factor on running so well in all seriousness. You kept it nice and cool. When I ran pop's 06 the temps were in the 220 range. From my understanding these cars pull quite a bit of timing when hot. I wouldn't be suprised if they richen up as well. Way to go man!!! Just showed pops this thread and he's decided on comming up there and making a couple of passes as well in his 06. Our local track (Delmar) doesn't hook too good on street tires.
Efforts to get dialed-in in a new car are a process of discovery. In my car, I allowed the water temp to go where it wanted on its inaugural three passes, all 216+ degrees. My times were 11.50-11.60 on DRs. Next I cooled the car for an hour and hit the line at 190, and produced an 11.31. The next day at 185 degrees and with better shifts, I pulled an 11.203.

I'm running bone stock, so the only way to cool the car is by shutting it down and waiting. No clever manual way to trick the fan to come on except tuning or an aftermarket part.

Good choices for a better track are Cecil County, Capitol Raceway, and Maryland International Raceway.

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Originally Posted by Warlock
Congrats Ranger! Any plans to run at Capitol any time this year? I would like to see ya run.
I was tossed from Capitol Raceway on opening day for running this series bone stock on DRs: 11.38, 11.36, 11.28 and 11.20. No warning. Just the boot after the 11.20

But I plan to return to Capitol for our Corvette club's semi-annual drag day on April 23, gates open at 11:00.

Should be a lot of Corvettes including several C6Z06s.

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Congrats!! Cecil county is probably one of the best tracks I have ever raced on. Those times are amazing!

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Originally Posted by Ranger
I was tossed from Capitol Raceway on opening day for running this series bone stock on DRs: 11.38, 11.36, 11.28 and 11.20. No warning. Just the boot after the 11.20

But I plan to return to Capitol for our Corvette club's semi-annual drag day on April 23, gates open at 11:00.

Should be a lot of Corvettes including several C6Z06s.

Ranger

Hey Ranger is it open to all Vettes that day and is it open registration at the gate? Might wanna try my new nitrous setup and pop a tranny and rear at the same time...lol
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unreal, great work!
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11.3 @ 127 on a stock car. It makes me wonder why modding. It cost a lot to mod a car because **** does break after modding and it adds up. I will just wait 2 years when 06' z06 dropping to 40k. I got about 25k (including 20k for the car) on my TA since I got my car in 2002.
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Thanks for sharing the results Ranger, glad to see other Corvette owners that DRIVE their cars like you do!



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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Thanks for sharing the results Ranger, glad to see other Corvette owners that DRIVE their cars like you do!



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It makes me sad to think of that most vettes won't see 6000 rpm in their life time because their owners are too afraid to push it.
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Originally Posted by mousetom78
11.3 @ 127 on a stock car. It makes me wonder why modding. It cost a lot to mod a car because **** does break after modding and it adds up....
Exactly. But the complusion to tinker is hard for many owners to resist.

I just keep mine stock and try to go faster by learning to drive them better. Once dialed-in, the goal shifts to finding better race conditions. I have 500+ passes in Z06s without breakage. Replaced DRs and a couple clutches...just the wear parts. I like having a warranty and keeping with a fully engineered package.

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Originally Posted by Ranger
I like having a warranty

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This is exactly what my buddy says about his 06 Z06, he hasn't been to the track with it as of yet and we are dying to see what it does.

But he had tons of passes on his 2001 even once cut a 1.66 60' on a BFG drag radial, that 01 Z06 also went 11.7 @ 119.9 over in Bradenton.

But speaking to him, he's told me about your ET's with all your cars to date
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Originally Posted by racer88
This is exactly what my buddy says about his 06 Z06, he hasn't been to the track with it as of yet and we are dying to see what it does....But speaking to him, he's told me about your ET's with all your cars to date
Thanks, guys and racer88.

I'm a guy with the time and inclination to share techniques honed by making passes in the stock platforms I drive.

I write for two distinct audiences.

First, for owners seeking to improve their own performance in straight-line acceleration.

And second for the many owners without the time or opportunity to race their Corvettes but enjoy reading about days at the track by an owner with dialed-in driving.

Never claim to be the fastest driver of this platform. Just one fast guy who writes it up.

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First of all.....WOW .

What RPM does the car through the traps at? Do you think there would any advantage to spin the motor beyond the factory rev limiter?
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Originally Posted by Peacock
...What RPM does the car through the traps at? Do you think there would any advantage to spin the motor beyond the factory rev limiter?
On my 127.1 pass the C6Z06 went through the traps at about 130-131, fresh off the 3-4 shift at 123. At the traps the rpm=about 5000....the 4-5 shift would not occur until 163 mph.

I plan to leave my ECU stock and just learn to work with the factory rev limiter of 7100. The challenge on the 1-2 is to peg the shift to around 7000 without kissing the limiter. The 2-3 and 3-4 are easy to work with.

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Originally Posted by Ranger
On my 127.1 pass the C6Z06 went through the traps at about 130-131, fresh off the 3-4 shift at 123. At the traps the rpm=about 5000....the 4-5 shift would not occur until 163 mph.

I plan to leave my ECU stock and just learn to work with the factory rev limiter of 7100. The challenge on the 1-2 is to peg the shift to around 7000 without kissing the limiter. The 2-3 and 3-4 are easy to work with.

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So, I take it that the motor is still pulling pretty well at 7k?

It seems as if those cars could benefit pretty well from a gear in the 3.70 range in order to lower the 3/4 shift point.
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Originally Posted by Peacock
So, I take it that the motor is still pulling pretty well at 7k?

It seems as if those cars could benefit pretty well from a gear in the 3.70 range in order to lower the 3/4 shift point.
Peacock, there are many tweaks that can be done along the way. But I am a stock guy trying to get the most I can by improving my driving, remaining breakage-free, and keeping the warranty in tact, while pursuing 10s...bone stock.

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I understand competely. I was just curious about the nature of this beast you have. I too am a push it to the limit stock guy. I believe I still hold the record for the fastest bone stock SRT4 at a 13.60.
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Congratulation, thats is a major accomplishment in my book, stick with your goals and keep up the amazing driving!
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Good job getting to hook, I had a horrible time. 13.0 @ 113 w/ 2.2 60' spinning through 2nd (I also am a noob though) I didn't see your car there... (no surprise) I wish I could have man! I was there till 10:30 since around 7pm.
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Originally Posted by Zentenk
Good job getting to hook, I had a horrible time. 13.0 @ 113 w/ 2.2 60' spinning through 2nd (I also am a noob though) I didn't see your car there... (no surprise) I wish I could have man! I was there till 10:30 since around 7pm.
I arrived at 5:15, made first pass at 6:00, second one at 7:01. By then the track surface temp was too cold for traction. So I split for dinner.

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Originally Posted by Ranger
I'm a stock guy. No mods planned. I'm trying to drive around the inherent ECU nanny.
That's kinda where I am at right now as well but on a lesser scale, I like to think of myself as a Ranger wannabe for the C6 LS2 automatic side of things LOL, quite a bit less skill inolved in my game though and ultimately I might mod the car a little.

Once again, good job Ranger.
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Ranger, thanks for sharing. Cecil is a good track, however I usually race at Capitol since I'm 15 minutes away. I won't be at the corvette meet obviously but hopefully I will see you race sometime in the near future, which car will be yours?
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Those cars are simply AMAZING!
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Originally Posted by B.W.
...hopefully I will see you race sometime in the near future, which car will be yours?
Hey, B.W.

My 2006 Z06 is red. Should be easy to spot; the one being hassled by track officials.

I like Capitol but was banned there on opening day, at least on DRs. Will be trying again there on stock tires. MIR is still open to me; same with Cecil County. Hope to see you this Spring.

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