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Old 10-28-2007, 06:24 PM
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I put my car on the dyno yesterday, I was hoping for 400 hp/390ish tq. My mods are:
220/224 114 lsa cam
stage 2 patriot heads
Crane 1.8 rockers
crane push rods
double roller timing set
melling oil pump
stock ls6 intake
bbk 80mm tb
headers, y pipe, cat back....
160 t-stat
That about sums it up, what do you guys think?
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A4 or m6? Low either way though
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m6, last time it was dynoed one year ago it put out 389hp/378tq on the same dyno
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What is different?
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I haven't changed anything besides converting to speed density. But it feels like it slightly gained after the tune. It does have a decent torque curve

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What type of dyno was used? Makes a difference.
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mustang dyno, still should put out more tho
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thats over 400 on a dynojet not too shabby.
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Originally Posted by krobinson123
mustang dyno, still should put out more tho
Printout is from a dynojet......
PS you could lean on it some. You've got a little left in it there. ESP at peak. Wheres the timing? Tuning alone could net you 15 or so.
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i guess your right, it is a dynojet. when the previous owner was having the car built it was meant to be procharged. I'm not sure how much timing...
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Originally Posted by krobinson123
i guess your right, it is a dynojet. when the previous owner was having the car built it was meant to be procharged. I'm not sure how much timing...
Stock bottom end I guess? Do you know the cylinder head CC? Might be a little low on comp. Needs to be tuned for NA. Lean it out, crank some timing in it.
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yes stock bottom end. 64cc heads. It is tuned for NA.
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Originally Posted by krobinson123
yes stock bottom end. 64cc heads. It is tuned for NA.
The A/F doesnt look like its tuned for NA. And if you dont know what the timing is, how can you make that assumption? It could be 19 degrees, when it may want 28 degrees.
The A/F doesnt look rich enough for FI but too rich for NA. It should flat line at 13:1. See where it starts to dip, right about peak HP?
Taking a little bit of fuel out of it, combined with getting the timing where it wants to be, hell you could be looking at 15-20 hp.
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get a fast 90/90
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Is that a Crane or VHP cam? I am running a smaller VHP cam with Dart 205 heads, Crane 1.7 rockers and when I had the LS6 intake I made 393 in a Vette which usually do less than an f-body on the dyno. I would say re-visit the tune a bit. The curves look nice and smooth so it does not appear that there is some type of major issue or anything wrong.
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vettnuts clean yr pm box i agree with above, get a fast 90
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Originally Posted by pdd
vettnuts clean yr pm box
Done on both forums.
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03
get a fast 90/90
Not exactly NEEDED to pick up a good bit. It would be an improvement, but theres more to be gained without one.
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I have tuned quite a few setups with Patriot heads, and 3 out 4 folks expect more. I don't know what the deal is with them, but they very seldom make GOOD power. That's the rub of a budget head in most cases. At any rate, I would expect 400-415rwhp with that setup based on similar setups on a dynojet.
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Originally Posted by Frost
I have tuned quite a few setups with Patriot heads, and 3 out 4 folks expect more. I don't know what the deal is with them, but they very seldom make GOOD power. That's the rub of a budget head in most cases. At any rate, I would expect 400-415rwhp with that setup based on similar setups on a dynojet.
exactly frost. the tune might be a little off, but like i have said before, the pp heads don't seem to do much imo.



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