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Old 04-14-2009, 06:07 PM   #61
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No one believed the world was round either. They thought you'd fall off if you got to the end. You sound like one of those people.

He ripped off THREE 9sec passes, then they tore the engine down right there and went over the car with a fine tooth comb. Why are you having so much trouble believing this? He even has the bore and stroke pictures in the magazine!

I agree!
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Old 04-14-2009, 09:06 PM   #62
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I do admit, that by the old trusted slide rule for a 3180 lb car to run 138 mph, you're talking about making over 625 hp at the crank.
Uncorrected power is what you race at, 625hp is not unbelievable to me if we're talking flywheel hp. The stock shortblock can surprise you sometimes.

Q for whomever works on this car:

What kind of vacuum pump and/or oiling system does this car have? Wet Sump, A.R.E. Dry Sump, etc?

What shocks? (may be mentioned somewhere)

Once again, congrats for a fast timeslip! I've worked on some big powered C5's a few years ago and they are not easy to get down the track.
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I'd also like to know more about the suspension setup.

This car is sick. Great job.

Although, it's not the fastest heads/cam LS1 anywhere as stated by GMHTP.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:29 AM   #64
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[quote=-Joseph-;11431614]Uncorrected power is what you race at, 625hp is not unbelievable to me if we're talking flywheel hp. The stock shortblock can surprise you sometimes. QUOTE]


I'm aware of that, just the n/a part, or the weight something doesn't seem to add up to me. But, I've seen enough in my days to say something can't be done.
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:03 PM   #65
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Man I love these kind of thread's LOL. Back to the discussion
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I re-read that article two or three times already...I was amazed until I started thinking about f-bodies breaking 10's w/ H/C/I, here is my take:

Lets say your LS1 Trans Am has 450 rwhp...
Your race weight is 3600
You cut a 1.6 sixty
You squeak into the 10's and maybe run a 10.8 when it is dialed in.

Rob's car:
Race weight is 3188, there is 4 tenths (100 pounds per tenth, which I assume is actually more when running this fast, but for arguments sake)
He cuts a 1.41 sixty, there is 4 more (2 tenths down low=4 on the big end)
His setup is perfectly dialed and he leaves at 5800-6200 rpm (as per GMHTP)
He also has 4.10's and a softlok clutch (which they said helps on the back half but also helps him get out of the hole quicker, I don't know a lot about clutches)

There is two more tenths in setup and testing, plus his C/D is better than your f-body iirc.

Feel free to discuss, this is just my theory.
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:10 AM   #67
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hey guys, I have been following this for awhile and at first it was hard to believe , but I just went a 9.92 @ 138 with my f-body. There is no way in the world I would have thought that it was possible to go that fast after seeing the car make 475 rwhp on fms dyno also @ 3100lbs. A well tuned motor and suspension makes alot of this possible. Turning potential energy into kenectic energy is the major part, putting power to the ground and keeping the motor in the sweet spot.
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:29 PM   #68
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Don't leave out the 500 pound weight difference either, as if DA and trans type were the only real differences..

if we're going to make comparisons, lets be fair now
Let's look at the math again, while we're being fair

3188lbs - 2865lbs = 323lbs
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:06 AM   #69
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The fastest H/C N/A C6 ZO6 Ran 9.8@139mph WITH 587RWHP and 3200lbs with driver if I'm not mistaken its really suprising that 470rwhp would run the same ET and MPH.


But none the less Rob's car is freakin mean and ran awesome times.

What transmission does it have ??? stock?? rebuild?? proshifted??




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Let's look at the math again, while we're being fair

3188lbs - 2865lbs = 323lbs

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Old 05-14-2009, 09:06 PM   #70
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Old 05-16-2009, 03:46 PM   #71
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there seems to be a 9 sec pass missing
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:14 AM   #72
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there seems to be a 9 sec pass missing
Well, you can see it here anyways

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2vj5swh&s=4
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Dont care what that vette has done to it . That damn car is impressive
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there seems to be a 9 sec pass missing
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I think it was John Adams that said, "Let history be our guide, for reason may mislead us."

I think it's pretty well known that peak hp isn't always a reliable indication of MPH...
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I read that article like 10 times that car is SICK!!!! Dont we all wish we could do that.
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DA plays a BIG factor here... as some one said.. a bit of NA boost can help a LOT...

READ SIG....
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:13 PM   #78
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Very impressive! seen the article... looked like a nitrous back fire in that vid But supposedly it was searched so thats ruled out.

That crossed my mind as well. Leaves mighty hard for just H/C. Either way.....fast as nuts!!! Congrats on the nice run, and nice car.
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Leaves mighty hard for just H/C.
That's the beauty of a 2 step.
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Looks like its leaving on a small shot to me but for a H/C car that mfer runs like a scalded dog.

EDIT: Something just crossed my mind. Sometimes in the ADRL, people get runs tossed for low hanging engine diapers. As you all know something hanging low trips the beams before the rear tires. But this generally only helps ET.

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