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10-21-2008, 02:29 AM
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| Is my camaro rarer than I thought? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. If your looking please post whats on your mind.
I have a 2001 Triple Black SLP SS Camaro Convertible,
SLP options include:
Center mounted Exhaust
SS grille
10-spoke SS wheels
Car is Black on Black on black, hense the triple black statement above, Car is an auto with 44k miles. Paint is in unbelievable shape. Also has an LS6, I check the block, #'s and everything.
How many of these cars could have possible been made with these slp breakdowns and an LS6.
Do I have something worth keeping or selling at an auction, ebay?
If possible can I send someone an email with pics, and if they could post it up for me. I don't know how to put pics on ls1tech.
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10-21-2008, 05:11 AM
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#2 | | Staging Lane
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| Sounds like a pretty rare setup to me.If you can resist driving it and store it for 30+ years then it might be worth keeping.Today it would probably pull a typical price for a vert,at or near KBB price most likely.
I should tell you though,that the motor is not an LS6 but it is an LS6 block.Same cubic inches as an LS1 block,I believe.
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10-21-2008, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Formula Freak I should tell you though,that the motor is not an LS6 but it is an LS6 block.Same cubic inches as an LS1 block,I believe. | Don't all 00-02 FBodys have the LS6 block? |
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10-21-2008, 05:29 AM
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#4 | | Staging Lane
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| I don't think so.To my understanding only some random LS1 cars in the late models (01-02's mostly) got them.
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10-21-2008, 06:46 AM
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#5 | | TECH Apprentice
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| about 25% of '02s got an ls6 block, the ls1s and ls6s are both 346. the ls6 (((block))) is all you could possibly get in an fbody and no ls6 heads or ls6 cam so hp is unaffected. I've never seen a dyno of an ls6 fbody making more power than anyone else unless it was a gmmg car. The ls6 block will only be an advantage when you get into some pretty good modding. and yes it is a very rare car. I wanted one exactly like it but I got pewter oh and I HAD to have a 6spd
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10-21-2008, 09:09 AM
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| Black was the most common color for the WSR and SS so no it does sound super rare. The cars that got the LS6 are not kept track of there was no way to prove which ones came that way from the factory. Sound like a nice ride though, keep that way and one day it maybe worth some money...... |
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10-21-2008, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SOM02WS6 Black was the most common color for the WSR and SS so no it does sound super rare. The cars that got the LS6 are not kept track of there was no way to prove which ones came that way from the factory. Sound like a nice ride though, keep that way and one day it maybe worth some money...... | YES a triple black SS vert IS RARE!I can't even remember seeing one in person. I've seen a triple black Z vert before but not SS... and you can prove it is a factory ls6 by looking in the door jam I bet. Instead of saying ls1 it should say ls6 or there is the old fashion way to get under the car and look like the OP did. On our cars colors don't necessarily make them rare. It is about the combination. In 2002 there were less than 74 SSs like mine built. What makes mine special is 2002, pewter, SS, vert, 6spd... only 74 were built like that and I bet way less than that had factory cme like mine came with. Hell any fbody with factory cme is RARE
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10-21-2008, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 7camaro7 YES a triple black SS vert IS RARE!I can't even remember seeing one in person. I've seen a triple black Z vert before but not SS... and you can prove it is a factory ls6 by looking in the door jam I bet. Instead of saying ls1 it should say ls6 or there is the old fashion way to get under the car and look like the OP did. On our cars colors don't necessarily make them rare. It is about the combination. In 2002 there were less than 74 SSs like mine built. What makes mine special is 2002, pewter, SS, vert, 6spd... only 74 were built like that and I bet way less than that had factory cme like mine came with. Hell any fbody with factory cme is RARE | You bet, but you would be wrong. There is no option code or number in the VIN that tells which cars got the LS6 block and which did not. Again Black was the most common color made in the SS and WS6's. Black tops were standard and ebony int was the most common. So guess what you put it all together and you get the most common. LS6 is no where in the options coding stop shooting your mouth off about things you have no clue on. The car is more rare than say a regular Z.
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10-21-2008, 04:16 PM
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| so the slp camaros came with CME exhaust????
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10-21-2008, 04:20 PM
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#10 | | Teching In
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| Why do people keep calling it an LS-6 when all 98-02 F-bodies only came with an LS-1 as a V8?  LS-6 block is not LS-6 engine. 
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10-21-2008, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by johnLs1camaro so the slp camaros came with CME exhaust???? | No, it was an option for the 345HP Camaro-SS cars only. 
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10-21-2008, 04:25 PM
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| awesome, i never knew they had that for a option
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10-21-2008, 05:15 PM
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| Sorry guys, I meant LS6 block only, my mistake, will anyone be willing to throw pics up for me, I only know how to send pics in email, is it possible for someone to take pics from an email and put them on here, I will post back up tomorrow, Im going to work in a couple, someone please let me know if you can put pics up for me. |
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10-22-2008, 09:08 AM
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| http://www.f-bodyhideout.com/build_counts/2001.htm
Here you go.. There were a total of 863 SS verts built in 01 and your cars looks to be 1 out of 112 in black with black top and black in that came in Auto. I wouldn't get all hung up on color break downs and options making your car 1 out of 112. There were only 863 SS verts built in 2001 so I would say no matter what color or options you have there wasn't that many around. But triple black was the most common SS vert combo that was ordered, but that by no means makes it common...
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10-22-2008, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SOM02WS6 You bet, but you would be wrong. There is no option code or number in the VIN that tells which cars got the LS6 block and which did not. Again Black was the most common color made in the SS and WS6's. Black tops were standard and ebony int was the most common. So guess what you put it all together and you get the most common. LS1 is no where in the options coding stop shooting your mouth off about things you have no clue on. The car is more rare than say a regular Z. | you can look at the back of the engine block and read number and that will tell if it is an ls6 block.<SOM02WS6 I bet you THAT!
I didn't say black is the most rare color, I said that the combination of features on that car are definitely rare to all be in one car.
I said nothing about interior.
So tell me how many 01 black vert SSs with cme you've seen in person!
2001 Camaro SS Convertible with Automatic:
453 units:
81U Bright Rally Red - 117
41U Onyx Black - 112
you said, "LS1 is no where in the options coding stop shooting your mouth off about things you have no clue on." LS1 is definitely in my option coding, if not then what do you call this?  SOM02WS6 you must be blind or stupid, which one?
With 112 2001 Camaro SS Verts automatic built I'd say its pretty damn rare. I don't know about you. With the cme its bound to be WAY MORE RARE than this list displays. SOM02WS6 you have the intelligence of a McCain fan Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyscamaro No, it was an option for the 345HP Camaro-SS cars only.  | 335hp cars got it too. I know because that is what mine came from the factory as. The 335 cars got either cme or the dual dual catback. The 345hp cars got one of the catbacks as well as a blackwing lid. Those 385HP berger SSs were also lid and catback cars, but the bergers got gmmg exhaust and a different company's carbon fiber lid.
And yes, all factory cme Camaros are SLP SSs
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10-22-2008, 04:04 PM
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#16 | | TECH Enthusiast
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| I do stand corrected I meant to say that LS6 will not appear in the options coding, of course the LS6 block will have different numbers than the LS1 block but which cars got the LS6 block were not kept track of in anyway nor is there anyway to tell except look at the block itself..... Either way the car is rare, is it something so rare that I wouldn't enjoy it no, have fun with it.. And before someone jumps on you ALL SS are SLP, no matter if they got he CME or not.. |
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10-22-2008, 10:53 PM
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#17 | | TECH Apprentice
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Originally Posted by SOM02WS6 And before someone jumps on you ALL SS are SLP, no matter if they got he CME or not.. | FALSE, not ALL... some do not have any slp options whatsoever, nor the stickers in the door jams.
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10-23-2008, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 7camaro7 FALSE, not ALL... some do not have any slp options whatsoever, nor the stickers in the door jams. | Didn't SLP make all of the SS's though...? Therefore making every SS car an SLP car.
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10-23-2008, 01:32 AM
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#19 | | TECH Apprentice
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| Actually he is very true, every single camaro ss went to slp for the conversion. The camaro's with additional options came with the slp stickers in the doors.
For example
My SLP doorjam sticker says
Additional SLP options include:
Center Mounted Exhaust
10-spoke Chrome wheels
SS Grille |
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10-23-2008, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by somws6bird Actually he is very true, every single camaro ss went to slp for the conversion. The camaro's with additional options came with the slp stickers in the doors.
For example
My SLP doorjam sticker says
Additional SLP options include:
Center Mounted Exhaust
10-spoke Chrome wheels
SS Grille | sounds fair... I could've sworn I've seen 1 that wasn't and slp. I thought gm made some and slp made some. maybe I thought this because I saw a couple without slp stickers in the doors. The one in the drivers side door just says modified by slp and weight. Even though it may have not got extra slp options it seems like it would still have stickers at least for the hood and spoiler. Now that I think about it my 3rd brake light under my spoiler says, "SLP .....(numbers)..." I know for a fact SLP made all firehawks but I didn't think it was always true for SSs.
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