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Old 08-23-2009, 09:54 AM   #1
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Default CTS-V vs 21psi STI

My cts-v has intake, catback, and a mild cam.

he said he had full bolt ons and 21 psi on the stock turbo.

It was qwker then i expected.

First gear roll at about 35 were back and fourth 1st ,2nd, and 3rd gear , then 4th gear I started to pull away and held it..

Second race race a 50 roll and the sti got a jump on me from the honk and I was at his rear bumper, then finaly again as soon as I hit 4th gear i realed him in and was able to take the lead.

Was one of the qwkest stock turbo STi's ive raced (he said it was stock i took his word )

srry bors no vid this time, left my camera at home

Any one know what type of power a STI is puttin down with full bolt ons and 21psi ?
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:30 AM   #2
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Nice! Those things can move out too!
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sti's are silly
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Nice kill.
All I know about the STI's is that they boost 14 psi stock and I'm pretty sure 21 psi is pushing it for the stock turbo.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:54 AM   #5
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Yeah 21 is pretty much the max of the stock turbo unless it was an 08 new body style with their larger turbo. Assuming he is tuned or has a mapped ECU with supporting bolt ons he should be between 300-320awhp. Fastest stock turbo STi I've seen was around 11.7 @ 115 w/ meth injection and pretty much all bolt ons, but he's realistically got a low 12 second car @ 110 or so.

Good kill on a quick car. The stock turbo and gearing sucks for top end so it would be interesting to see you guys go from a dig on video.
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Yeah 21 is pretty much the max of the stock turbo unless it was an 08 new body style with their larger turbo. Assuming he is tuned or has a mapped ECU with supporting bolt ons he should be between 300-320awhp. Fastest stock turbo STi I've seen was around 11.7 @ 115 w/ meth injection and pretty much all bolt ons, but he's realistically got a low 12 second car @ 110 or so.

Good kill on a quick car. The stock turbo and gearing sucks for top end so it would be interesting to see you guys go from a dig on video.
From a dig I dont think I would stand a chance to be honest if he knew how to launch it....

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he could have a stock turbo but have a tons of stuff done to it and might be in the upper 300awhp range, but their gearing wasnt that good in the older ones so they suffered a bit frm roll races
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he'd have to have a REALLY aggressive tune to be in the upper 300's on a stock turbo.

usually they are around the low 300's on a mustang with boltons at that psi they weigh almost as much as an fbody lol
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he'd have to have a REALLY aggressive tune to be in the upper 300's on a stock turbo.

usually they are around the low 300's on a mustang with boltons at that psi they weigh almost as much as an fbody lol
Wow, i would think more then low 300s, but then agian that sounds realistic compared to bench racing " I prolly dyno around 450" noise some guys talk on the st.


also as far as weight goes my CTS-V is like a f-body with 4 ppl in it, so The v did well IMO..
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he'd have to have a REALLY aggressive tune to be in the upper 300's on a stock turbo.

usually they are around the low 300's on a mustang with boltons at that psi they weigh almost as much as an fbody lol
yeah they arent the lightest
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Wow, i would think more then low 300s, but then agian that sounds realistic compared to bench racing " I prolly dyno around 450" noise some guys talk on the st.


also as far as weight goes my CTS-V is like a f-body with 4 ppl in it, so The v did well IMO..
haha i hear you - my STi had a GT3076R turbo, 850cc injectors, and the usual boltons - was tuned to 19psi making 405/395
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haha i hear you - my STi had a GT3076R turbo, 850cc injectors, and the usual boltons - was tuned to 19psi making 405/395
damm that must of been fun to drive.
The guy I ran had the same injector size from what I remember..



I almost bought a STi becuase its fast and CT weather sucks(snow), but a few of my buddies have them and i just didnt want the same thing ...
The cadi is a shit load of fun to drive, and rides nice and smooth... Only downside is all winter it sits in the garage....

Btw is your camaro red? i think ive seen you at burger king on the pike a few times..
only one ive see around with boost is why i ask .
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damm that must of been fun to drive.
The guy I ran had the same injector size from what I remember..



I almost bought a STi becuase its fast and CT weather sucks(snow), but a few of my buddies have them and i just didnt want the same thing ...
The cadi is a shit load of fun to drive, and rides nice and smooth... Only downside is all winter it sits in the garage....

Btw is your camaro red? i think ive seen you at burger king on the pike a few times..
only one ive see around with boost is why i ask .
yea im still in CTsubie and new england subaru on the forums so i havent left the AWD scene haha. also, yea im the boosted camaro on the pike, red with black rims and accents. shoot me a honk if u see me next time!
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Nice kill, man. I haven't seen your CTS-V around but it would be fun to get a friendly run in if we bump into each other this Fall (looking to have my car back on the road in the next few weeks after a trans rebuild).

I'm not sure if they are the same motor, but I ran a guy a few times with an Evo 8, cams/full bolt-ons and meth on the stock turbo running about 28psi. He made around 370 at first if I recall. First runs were close when I had a passenger and shifting issue, then I sorted out my issues and showed up solo while he got retuned to about 385 and I walked him pretty good. We were both surprised because those are light cars.
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Nice kill, man. I haven't seen your CTS-V around but it would be fun to get a friendly run in if we bump into each other this Fall (looking to have my car back on the road in the next few weeks after a trans rebuild).

I'm not sure if they are the same motor, but I ran a guy a few times with an Evo 8, full bolt-ons and meth on the stock turbo running about 28psi. He made around 385 if I recall. First runs were close when I had a passenger and shifting issue, then I sorted out my issues and showed up alone and walked him pretty good. We were both surprised because those are light cars.
Evos and STis are different animals.. Horizontal 4 2.5L vs Inline 4 2.0L

and that evo must have had headstuds lol
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Evos and STis are different animals.. Horizontal 4 2.5L vs Inline 4 2.0L

and that evo must have had headstuds lol
I'll take your word for it! I know very little about both. I don't know where I got the idea that they had similar motors but it's always good to learn and I never bothered looking it up.

BTW, I know someone who would be a good run for you here in CT. 02 Z28 with a cam and 100 shot. Should be putting down similar hp as you if you're interested. Just finishing a clutch breakin today and tomorrow and I know he's planning on going up to the pike this weekend to test out the new clutch.
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Yea dude, im the same way - the more info the better

I am usually at the pike on Sundays and sometimes Thursdays at BK if you guys want to come by. A few mustangs, an STi, 2 red camaros (1 being mine), and my buddy has a 94 black Supra he brings.. that or his 1 of 2 produced black hardtop Saleen Cobra's *drool*. let me know if you are down!!
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I'll take your word for it! I know very little about both. I don't know where I got the idea that they had similar motors but it's always good to learn and I never bothered looking it up.

BTW, I know someone who would be a good run for you here in CT. 02 Z28 with a cam and 100 shot. Should be putting down similar hp as you if you're interested. Just finishing a clutch breakin today and tomorrow and I know he's planning on going up to the pike this weekend to test out the new clutch.

Ya sti can be beasts

I hope your not talking about a good run for me, maybe sujo cause a f-body with a cam and a 100 shot will eat me lol .


me and my buddies always do some small meets here and there, sometimes tuesday nights cause theres nothing else to do, that how I ran into that 240 i raced.



Id def like to do some runs with you for fun, from your dyno numbers youll prolly win. Im waiting for my headers to come in.

But i want to see how Id do since I almost bought a ls1 camaro after selling my 97 lt1, but then fell in love with the V...
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Ya sti can be beasts

I hope your not talking about a good run for me, maybe sujo cause a f-body with a cam and a 100 shot will eat me lol .


me and my buddies always do some small meets here and there, sometimes tuesday nights cause theres nothing else to do, that how I ran into that 240 i raced.



Id def like to do some runs with you for fun, from your dyno numbers youll prolly win. Im waiting for my headers to come in.

But i want to see how Id do since I almost bought a ls1 camaro after selling my 97 lt1, but then fell in love with the V...
How much does your car weigh? I'm definitly down for a roll or a dig when I pop the tranny back in but I don't think the dig will go too well unless you've got some very sticky tires and a strong clutch. Regardless, I love just running for fun and I'm in love with CTS-Vs, so I'm good for it.
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How much does your car weigh? I'm definitly down for a roll or a dig when I pop the tranny back in but I don't think the dig will go too well unless you've got some very sticky tires and a strong clutch. Regardless, I love just running for fun and I'm in love with CTS-Vs, so I'm good for it.

i weight about 3700 ~ 3800 + driver , you dyno around 400 with heads and cam ? what are your numbers ?

from a roll I have a chance when i get my headers on, from the line not at all....
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