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Old 08-30-2009, 07:54 PM   #41
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Damn alot of you definately had a full glass of hatoraide this morning!

ForceFedC5 stop being butthurt about a vette losing and give the man props about his sick ass Van! Quit hating on any and everything, making yourself look like a real douchebag.
I can't believe people are still saying Douchebag!

I don't see anyone in here hating, just giving their opinions about the vid - that's all!
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Damn alot of you definately had a full glass of hatoraide this morning!

ForceFedC5 stop being butthurt about a vette losing and give the man props about his sick ass Van! Quit hating on any and everything, making yourself look like a real douchebag.

1320, that van is sick as hell who gives a shit what all the haters in here are saying. Major props from me for taking a fullsize van and making it competitive against the number 1 supercar in america.
Totally agree. Just found this website, first kill thread I read and I find guys hating on something that wasnt an "exotic car" beating a ZR1. Then the mullet references and dogging on Camaro's? Calling a clean C2 a ricer?? Thought those comments were only thrown around in the realm of the Bengle Beemer crowds?

I've ran the 1/4 in Death Valley before, at that big US Navy base they have there (forgot the name, 20 years ago). My 13.8 camaro ran 15.2: even after some friendly local guys rejetted it for the thin air I still could not go better than a 15.0 Humbling!
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Damn alot of you definately had a full glass of hatoraide this morning!

ForceFedC5 stop being butthurt about a vette losing and give the man props about his sick ass Van! Quit hating on any and everything, making yourself look like a real douchebag.

1320, that van is sick as hell who gives a shit what all the haters in here are saying. Major props from me for taking a fullsize van and making it competitive against the number 1 supercar in america.
You've GOT to be kidding me..

Competitive against a ZR1?

Yes, that van is quick for what it is, but guess what, my 4wd truck could beat a ZR1 in the rain. Is my 4wd truck a ZR1 killer? Please..

The guy obviously couldnt drive at all and probably didnt even realize that the van was anything worth racing.

Sleepers are great and I've had a few, but comparing the van to a ZR1, much less saying you KILLED a ZR1 is just flat out ridiculous. That's ricer sh-t.

I'd give the van props if he beat it during a real race with at least a half decent driver.
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You sir, obviously need alittle more time looking back at history. That car has been a race car most of its life, from Guldstrand. Its had the flares since the 60's and done many laps around a lot of road courses.

I like c6's and c6 s's but anyone can have one. Just sign the paper. I ve seen two other c2 on the road this year. Not counting three others that I ve seen at shows.

We pretty much all have vettes, but see the value in the f body. Zombiess has z06, helikid has a c6, benneliwang has his turbo c5.....and we all have f bodies. Why? well, when you make a lot of power, what better to hurt? a low dollar f body or a 50 k vette? As the cars get faster the cars get cheaper. Probably why my 87 camaro has the 101 mm turbo...I scrap a wall in it, big deal...I total it, big deal, I take everything that survives and get another third gen. Way better then a zo6.
I'm just giving my opinion. I think the extended flares on that vette look kinda crappy. I'd much rather see the pics of your other unmolested Corvettes!

Honestly, I'd rather just have one nice car than a few f bodies (or maybe 1 really, really nice f body). However, if that's your way of racing and saving $, more power to you.

If I could afford 5 C5's, I'd probably have only 1 worked C5 and be saving up for a C7

Hey, but to each their own!
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Sleepers are great and I've had a few, but comparing the van to a ZR1, much less saying you KILLED a ZR1 is just flat out ridiculous. That's ricer sh-t.
We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1
We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1 at a 1/4 mile track
We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1 at a 1/4 mile track and the time slip
We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1 at a 1/4 mile track and the time slip with 2000+ witnesses
We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1 at a 1/4 mile track and the time slip with 2000+ witnesses and posted on youtube

Yes the Van KILLED a ZR1, that black ZR1

But do you have a video of your 4X4 killing a ZR1 in the rain? Because if you don't, that's just flat out ridiculous. That's ricer sh-t.
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That van is sweet...I love a sleeper.

Oh...and ForceFedC5, you're an idiot.

That is all.
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I'm just giving my opinion. I think the extended flares on that vette look kinda crappy. I'd much rather see the pics of your other unmolested Corvettes!

Honestly, I'd rather just have one nice car than a few f bodies (or maybe 1 really, really nice f body). However, if that's your way of racing and saving $, more power to you.

If I could afford 5 C5's, I'd probably have only 1 worked C5 and be saving up for a C7

Hey, but to each their own!
Thats even funnier....you think that flares are done for looks? lol...real flares are done out of need. You see, in the 60's, when your racing your then new vette, and need more traction, you quickly realize that aint happening unless the fenders are bigger.....and viola, flared fenders. I love the silver 64, and out of the 100000 people that have seen the car, your probably the first thats said they didnt like it( I commend you for that, as there were probably some that had thoughts right..)....I can live with that, since Im not trying to make everyone else happy. Ive been stopped on the street numerous times, for pictures, questions , comments, and even movie producers wanting to use it in film. I ve had the 65 396 and 66 427 cars for years, and they are pretty much undrivable, and too valuable. But a flared ex race car....you can swap in a fi lt1 and t56 and actually drive the piss out of.

Just like why would someone chose a van over a vette...well the simple answer....families. I have several vettes, which is cool cause I can let a friend drive one to a show while I take one,each with one of the kids with us, or my wife can take one and I take one and she isnt stuck all day, or my daughter....

But the rest of the time, we can take something like the van to the track on a friday night with 5 guys in it, saturday morning its at the airport picking people up, make a stop at costco for refrigerator for a rental property, saturday afternoon its taking a group of 6 year olds to a movie, and saturday night taking 3 couples out to dinner while the kids are with a sitter. Did you even want to park a zr1 at the movie theater, or a casino parking garage? or make 5 trips to the airport getting one person at a time?

If you have people.....and you can only have one vehicle that your gonna keep.......it would be a 12 sec van.

Besides we ran out of other stuff to turbo.
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We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1
We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1 at a 1/4 mile track
We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1 at a 1/4 mile track and the time slip
We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1 at a 1/4 mile track and the time slip with 2000+ witnesses
We have a Video of the Van killing the ZR1 at a 1/4 mile track and the time slip with 2000+ witnesses and posted on youtube

Yes the Van KILLED a ZR1, that black ZR1

But do you have a video of your 4X4 killing a ZR1 in the rain? Because if you don't, that's just flat out ridiculous. That's ricer sh-t.
Haha you guys are starting to get ridiculous with this!

That wasn't a kill. Infact, it wasn't even a race. They didn't even leave at the same time. IMO, it wasn't even worth posting beside the fact it was sure to stir controversy. I'll give it that much. We all know a ZR1 should go quicker than low 13's in the quarter. When you guys find a real heads-up run with a competently-driven ZR1 and you win then post up. Until then you have nothing worth bragging about.
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Haha you guys are starting to get ridiculous with this!

That wasn't a kill. Infact, it wasn't even a race. They didn't even leave at the same time. IMO, it wasn't even worth posting beside the fact it was sure to stir controversy. I'll give it that much. We all know a ZR1 should go quicker than low 13's in the quarter. When you guys find a real heads-up run with a competently-driven ZR1 and you win then post up. Until then you have nothing worth bragging about.
Absolutely, I agree 100%! We all know that a race at a race track with a prepped surface, tree, etc does NOT count as a race. Only when a 'Vette outruns the opponent is it a real race! I can't believe more people don't know this. Races should only be run by magazine editors publishing 1/4 mile times for bone stock vehicles...everything else is hearsay, vid's be damned. Idiot.


PS: That ZR1's 13.029 @ 121.28 with a 5529' DA would correct to about 12.1@130mph which is still slow, but damn some people don't understand conditions affect performance of a "fast" car. Or...did Road & Track not tell you that?
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Absolutely, I agree 100%! We all know that a race at a race track with a prepped surface, tree, etc does NOT count as a race. Only when a 'Vette outruns the opponent is it a real race! I can't believe more people don't know this. Races should only be run by magazine editors publishing 1/4 mile times for bone stock vehicles...everything else is hearsay, vid's be damned. Idiot.
I own the car in question. I don't have to go by what the mag's say, I can refer to my stock timeslips instead. Although I must admit most of the published times are pretty damn close to what these cars actually run.

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PS: That ZR1's 13.029 @ 121.28 with a 5529' DA would correct to about 12.1@130mph which is still slow, but damn some people don't understand conditions affect performance of a "fast" car. Or...did Road & Track not tell you that?
Exactly. That's around what you would have saw if you had a driver worth a damn behind the wheel!
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Haha you guys are starting to get ridiculous with this!

That wasn't a kill. Infact, it wasn't even a race. They didn't even leave at the same time. IMO, it wasn't even worth posting beside the fact it was sure to stir controversy. I'll give it that much. We all know a ZR1 should go quicker than low 13's in the quarter. When you guys find a real heads-up run with a competently-driven ZR1 and you win then post up. Until then you have nothing worth bragging about.
Watch ESPN lately?
Where there is a thing called NHRA?
Which happens to have hundreds of millions of dollars involved in them races?
When those cars race, do they say it wan't even a race because they didn't even leave at the same time?
When the driver left the light later or when the faster car lost traction and blew it's tires. DOES NHRA cancels the result and says "hey the looser's car is supposed to be faster and we need to run it again"?

Do you street race for money?
Have you seen street races where a slower car beat a supposedly faster car because the the driver can't sucks at driving?
What would happen to the looser when he says "No I will not pay because my car is supposed to be faster!"

Did you goto high school?
Did you fail a test but you know you were smarter than the test?
What did the teacher say when you said "I know I am smarter because my brain can do 1/4 miles in 11 seconds because Motor Trend tells me so! I want to take the test again!"

Need I go on?
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Watch ESPN lately?
Where there is a thing called NHRA?
Which happens to have hundreds of millions of dollars involved in them races?
When those cars race, do they say it wan't even a race because they didn't even leave at the same time?
When the driver left the light later or when the faster car lost traction and blew it's tires. DOES NHRA cancels the result and says "hey the looser's car is supposed to be faster and we need to run it again"?

Do you street race for money?
Have you seen street races where a slower car beat a supposedly faster car because the the driver can't sucks at driving?
What would happen to the looser when he says "No I will not pay because my car is supposed to be faster!"

Did you goto high school?
Did you fail a test but you know you were smarter than the test?
What did the teacher say when you said "I know I am smarter because my brain can do 1/4 miles in 11 seconds because Motor Trend tells me so! I want to take the test again!"

Need I go on?
Nice try at making a valid point by using extreme sarcasm, but....FAIL!

Just a waste of bandwidth, that's all.


And why are we talking about Motor Trend?? Do you have the issue with the yellow ZR1 on the cover? That's my favorite.
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I own the car in question. I don't have to go by what the mag's say, I can refer to my stock timeslips instead. Although I must admit most of the published times are pretty damn close to what these cars actually run.



Exactly. That's around what you would have saw if you had a driver worth a damn behind the wheel!
Actually...that 12.1 was corrected for sea level, which is close to the DA of your pass. The main difference between his corrected 12.1 and your 11.whatever is the 60ft. So...the guy didn't know how to launch and the van didn't need to know how. That still a race...races occur between people who can drive and people who can't all the time. Life sucks, huh?

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Actually...that 12.1 was corrected for sea level, which is close to the DA of your pass. The main difference between his corrected 12.1 and your 11.whatever is the 60ft. So...the guy didn't know how to launch and the van didn't need to know how. That still a race...races occur between people who can drive and people who can't all the time. Life sucks, huh?
Not to be rude FormulaZR, but if you think 12.1 (at sea level) in a ZR1 is a run worth mentioning then you've obviously had a serious brainfart this morning, lol. J/K

And if that guy were cutting 60-footers like he should have been he would have been in the low 12's where he belonged - @ 5500ft DA. A 1.75-ish 60 in our conditions (in CA) will get you bottom 11's in a stock ZR1.

All in all, he beat the DRIVER not the car. So Good Kill...I guess.
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Absolutely, I agree 100%! We all know that a race at a race track with a prepped surface, tree, etc does NOT count as a race. Only when a 'Vette outruns the opponent is it a real race! I can't believe more people don't know this. Races should only be run by magazine editors publishing 1/4 mile times for bone stock vehicles...everything else is hearsay, vid's be damned. Idiot.


PS: That ZR1's 13.029 @ 121.28 with a 5529' DA would correct to about 12.1@130mph which is still slow, but damn some people don't understand conditions affect performance of a "fast" car. Or...did Road & Track not tell you that?
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Not to be rude FormulaZR, but if you think 12.1 (at sea level) in a ZR1 is a run worth mentioning then you've obviously had a serious brainfart this morning, lol. J/K

And if that guy were cutting 60-footers like he should have been he would have been in the low 12's where he belonged - @ 5500ft DA. A 1.75-ish 60 in our conditions (in CA) will get you bottom 11's in a stock ZR1.
Having a hard time reading 100% of what's written today, I see?

My point was only that everybody looking at the 13.0 time of the ZR1 was only part of the truth. Guys that live in places with a low DA sometimes can't comprehend that a fast car appears slow in shitty conditions.
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All in all, he beat the DRIVER not the car. So Good Kill...I guess.
That's part of racing, don't ya think? I got beat by a Mustang at the track this weekend, my car ran the better time...but I took a nap at the light. Guess what! He still won!
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Having a hard time reading 100% of what's written today, I see?

My point was only that everybody looking at the 13.0 time of the ZR1 was only part of the truth. Guys that live in places with a low DA sometimes can't comprehend that a fast car appears slow in shitty conditions.
Yes I understand the principles of DA and all that good stuff...but you have to admit, that was a shitty pass. BUT, A WIN IS A WIN!
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Yes I understand the principles of DA and all that good stuff...but you have to admit, that was a shitty pass. BUT, A WIN IS A WIN!
I agree with all the above statements.
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Having a hard time reading 100% of what's written today, I see?

My point was only that everybody looking at the 13.0 time of the ZR1 was only part of the truth. Guys that live in places with a low DA sometimes can't comprehend that a fast car appears slow in shitty conditions.
I see what your saying. Yeah some people do get butt-hurt when they see cars in high DA go a full second slower than usual!

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That's part of racing, don't ya think? I got beat by a Mustang at the track this weekend, my car ran the better time...but I took a nap at the light. Guess what! He still won!
What were you running? Don't tell me the 'Busa?
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