cobras are slow. all of them . i call bs in this thread and video. it was all computer generated.
Yep, was waiting for someone to catch on.. No way a Cobra could put a hurting like this on a cam only ls1.
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lol...dynotune on here had a pully only cobra...and has trapped 123 before
edit-speaking of him ^^ lol
Wrong... A pulled cobra would be about even with a bolt on ls1... DUH!!!!!
FWIW... This is about even for an average cam only ls1 (trapping around 115mph) racing another average cam only ls1 (trapping around 115mph) but the second one spraying a 100 shot. Make more sense of why he got pulled so hard now?
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lol...dynotune on here had a pully only cobra...and has trapped 123 before
edit-speaking of him ^^ lol
my junk went 124 with a pulley a bunch of times. still just a slow ass cobra
edit.. just so its clear it was full weight, stock irs, stock clutch on 17" et street radials. we got some good air up here in the northeast tho. on that note its never failed to trap over 121 on a clean run even in the july heat. i just got me a good set up with a kick ass tuner.
lemons..you really need to ease up man...we're starting to think you want a Cobra or something...jk the race seems right to me. Now if it was a cam only car that was gutted (like mine with a 6speed) it might have been closer...but now I'm getting into bench racing and thats a nono
I saw a nice white 03 Cobra at the tuner today. Made me really wish I had one. Would make a good beat around town car. The 95 would be a drag car in a heart beat!
lemons..you really need to ease up man...we're starting to think you want a Cobra or something...jk the race seems right to me. Now if it was a cam only car that was gutted (like mine with a 6speed) it might have been closer...but now I'm getting into bench racing and thats a nono
I am far from being "worked up" in any sense.. This is built up from every Cobra/ls1 discussion and it gets OLD!!! It would be just the same if it was with any other brand of car, it just happens to be a Cobra.
Would I have a Cobra? Hell yes I would. Over a Zo6? Probably not... Doesn't change the fact that a pullied Cobra will walk all over an average cam only or even some H/C cars, especially stalled autos. 6 speeds are a totally different ball.. A properly set up 6 speed H/C fbody should pull a pullied Cobra, a cam only one would be a good race with the Cobra having the edge.
FWIW, I will post a vid of an fbody walking all over the Cobra shortly.. Dig and a roll. Maybe that will make you guys feel better?
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Past Rides- 02 954RR, 02 F4i, 98 Z28 M6, 99 3.8 V6 Firebird, 95 3.4 V6 Camaro
Ummm, Wow was that a race? I wouldnt call it that! lol, So lemons where yall hanging out at? We have a mustang together now lol
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Normal situation? That is about as normal as it gets, it was done 4 times and the outcome was the same everytime.
If I had to guess he is very close to 100mph in the 1/8 and the camaro is right at 89-90mph.. If anybody says that isn't about spot on for an average cam only setup, you are in denial, plain and simple. Like said, the cobra would be trapping 120+mph and the Z28 would be traping around 116mph, just guessing on both though.
Thomas racing a 105mph car would just be a joke, there would be absolutely no point whatsoever.
Like I said, I know both cars VERY well, I pulled the old motor in the Z28 for the owner and helped put the new one in. I know every single mod on both cars.
Yes you are correct, the pull is retarded.. And that is EXACTLY what a properly setup pullied Cobra will do to your average cam only ls1. I would consider my HEADS and CAM car a tad bit above average for a full weight DD street car and he pulled pretty good on me also. AGAIN!!!! He is racing stalled a4s, not 6 speeds.
He has raced another Ms4 car besides this one, my old one. Times are in sig.. 7.2@95+mph spinning, no tune, 2500DA.. I would consider that above average. We race BEFORE he had the small pulley that he has now and was making around 11 #s of boost without a KILLER dyno tune on it.
The race from 40-120 was pretty close.. He got the jump on me and I ended up putting about 1/2 on him and was still pulling.. But this was BEFORE the pulley against a not so normal H/C car.
Such a basic Cobra!?!?! Since when is a car that traps 120+mph basic? Is it lightning fast? No, but not too many ls1 cars would hang on motor with it.
This is the problem with the people on this site.. They see (or race) one Cobra that is not set up properly or they have plenty of mods and the Cobra doesn't and they think that is the norm. THIS IS THE NORM for an average cam only ls1 racing a pullied Cobra, it is NOT pretty. Anybody who thinks differently should get out and do some racing.
For the record, i have raced many cobras and the only lost to one of them. And yes a cobra with a couple bolt ons and an upper pulley running 15psi is a "basic cobra" Any cobra with the stock eaton that it came from the factory with to me is a basic cobra. In fact i dont think i have ever seen a cobra WITHOUT an upper pulley on it. Its so basic in fact its mandatory to pulley it once you buy one. If i owned a cobra, the first thing i would do is rip that junk 1.2 liter blower off that car. The fastest i have ever seen an eaton cobra go at the track is 124mph. Once they start hooking there mph drops to around 120-121. Not saying they cant go faster.... but why spend all that time an money when you can just get a bigger more efficient blower. My friend has a 3.4 whipple on his running 26psi going 9.90 at 140mph.... thats NOT a basic cobra. O and its race weight is pretty damn heavy with a stalled auto and SRA. I may be a chevy guy but i do have lots of experience with them. I have various friends who own them and i have ripped down my share of Cobra motors.
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Ummm, Wow was that a race? I wouldnt call it that! lol, So lemons where yall hanging out at? We have a mustang together now lol
Guess I should have said Cobra playing around!
Tullahoma area.. We go to Huntsville for the track. You near us?
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For the record, i have raced many cobras and the only lost to one of them. And yes a cobra with a couple bolt ons and an upper pulley running 15psi is a "basic cobra" Any cobra with the stock eaton that it came from the factory with to me is a basic cobra. In fact i dont think i have ever seen a cobra WITHOUT an upper pulley on it. Its so basic in fact its mandatory to pulley it once you buy one. If i owned a cobra, the first thing i would do is rip that junk 1.2 liter blower off that car. The fastest i have ever seen an eaton cobra go at the track is 124mph. Once they start hooking there mph drops to around 120-121. Not saying they cant go faster.... but why spend all that time an money when you can just get a bigger more efficient blower. My friend has a 3.4 whipple on his running 26psi going 9.90 at 140mph.... thats NOT a basic cobra. O and its race weight is 3920 with a stalled auto and SRA. I may be a chevy guy but i do have lots of experience with them. I have various friends who own them and i have ripped down my share of Cobra motors.
So, you are aware that Eatons are in the 9s@130+mph also then, correct?
What are your mods?
And you don't have too much reading comprehension. I didn't say it was a basic Cobra, I asked since when is a car that traps 120+mph basic. That is not the "norm" for a street car, not by any means.
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For the record, i have raced many cobras and the only lost to one of them. And yes a cobra with a couple bolt ons and an upper pulley running 15psi is a "basic cobra" Any cobra with the stock eaton that it came from the factory with to me is a basic cobra.
Given your definition, my "basic Cobra" went 11.20's.
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I may be a chevy guy but i do have lots of experience with them.
Let's see where your wealth of knowledge comes from...
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I have various friends who own them and i have ripped down my share of Cobra motors.
what i consider basic.... is basic mods.... U take an 03 - 04 cobra. You put a small pulley on it, air intake, and exhaust. Those are BASIC mods that can make an 03/04 cobra trap 120mph. So yes a 120mph 03/04 cobra is basic. Look at a c6 z06. That car dead stock can got 126mph. That is 100% basic for a c6 z06 considering its 100% stock.
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Tullahoma area.. We go to Huntsville for the track. You near us?
So, you are aware that Eatons are in the 9s@130+mph also then, correct?
What are your mods?
And you don't have too much reading comprehension. I didn't say it was a basic Cobra, I asked since when is a car that traps 120+mph basic. That is not the "norm" for a street car, not by any means.
Yes eaton cobras are in the 9's but do you have any idea how much more money that takes then to do it with a 3.4 whipple? A shit load.
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what i consider basic.... is basic mods.... U take an 03 - 04 cobra. You put a small pulley on it, air intake, and exhaust. Those are BASIC mods that can make an 03/04 cobra trap 120mph. So yes a 120mph 03/04 cobra is basic. Look at a c6 z06. That car dead stock can got 126mph. That is 100% basic for a c6 z06 considering its 100% stock.
Who cares about trap speed?
I went 11.20's with a catback, a cold air kit, an upper pulley, nittos, and
a tune. That's about as "basic" as it gets for a '03 Cobra. But I'm sure
you know what they are capable of given your experience.
what i consider basic.... is basic mods.... U take an 03 - 04 cobra. You put a small pulley on it, air intake, and exhaust. Those are BASIC mods that can make an 03/04 cobra trap 120mph. So yes a 120mph 03/04 cobra is basic. Look at a c6 z06. That car dead stock can got 126mph. That is 100% basic for a c6 z06 considering its 100% stock.
Now I think you are just dumb, along with no comprehension. I said it is NOT BASIC for a street car, regardless of what it is.
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Yes eaton cobras are in the 9's but do you have any idea how much more money that takes then to do it with a 3.4 whipple? A shit load.
O, ok... I forgot that if two cars ran 9.98@131.2mph the one with the less money in it was also faster.
BTW, care to tell me why it costs less money to do it with a whipple/KB than it does an Eaton?
__________________ 00 Pewter T/A A4 - Full Weight DD - 7.40@91.7mph NA 2400DA Enough to bitch slap Ls1killer!
00 Onyx Black T/A A4 (girlfriends car) - 8.4@85.5mph NA 2400DA Converter in! New times coming! 98 Artic White T/A A4 - DD - SOLD - 7.20@95.7mph NA 2000DA spinning/no tune
Past Rides- 02 954RR, 02 F4i, 98 Z28 M6, 99 3.8 V6 Firebird, 95 3.4 V6 Camaro
Ask Jake at at modularfords (or dynotune). I think you'll be surprised.
I was waiting for him to tell me why it costs so much more to do it with an Eaton than a KB/Whipple.. I'm sure he couldn't, but it sure was a good way to make him sound like he knew what he was talking about.
__________________ 00 Pewter T/A A4 - Full Weight DD - 7.40@91.7mph NA 2400DA Enough to bitch slap Ls1killer!
00 Onyx Black T/A A4 (girlfriends car) - 8.4@85.5mph NA 2400DA Converter in! New times coming! 98 Artic White T/A A4 - DD - SOLD - 7.20@95.7mph NA 2000DA spinning/no tune
Past Rides- 02 954RR, 02 F4i, 98 Z28 M6, 99 3.8 V6 Firebird, 95 3.4 V6 Camaro
Maybe that will make you guys feel better? 
