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Old 06-17-2009, 03:52 PM   #121
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Thats where I must have misunderstood...the calipers will bolt up, but there is no rotor that will work with them...so you need the adaptor brackets to make them work properly. Thanks for clearing that up, I was under the impression that C6Z06 caliper would bolt up without an adaptor, like the CTS-V caliper does.

Are the brackets to adapt the C6 Z06 caliper the same ones used in the C5 13" upgrade??
The bracket that require you to cut the ear off will work with C6Z06 caliper. Only problem with those caliper is the 6 individual small pad per side. The vette owner reported an uneven wear on those little pads.
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The bracket that require you to cut the ear off will work with C6Z06 caliper. Only problem with those caliper is the 6 individual small pad per side. The vette owner reported an uneven wear on those little pads.
Ok, that makes sense.

Don't they make retrofit 1-piece brake pads for the Z06 calipers now?? I recall seeing a pic of someone who had 1 piece pads in a C6 Z06 caliper.
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Let me do some research on this.
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Ok, that makes sense.

Don't they make retrofit 1-piece brake pads for the Z06 calipers now?? I recall seeing a pic of someone who had 1 piece pads in a C6 Z06 caliper.
Those are made by Carbotech and start at $269 for the fronts. More aggressive compounds climb up to $343.

I run their Panther Plus (AX6) on my stock calipers and love the grip. On a non-raced car they use up the rotor more than the pad which is good. Rotors are cheaper to replace than the pads, so you save some money.

If you guys want to talk about the newest ctsv/zr1 caliper, let's not do it here. Start a different thread, but you can link to it here. Ok? Thanks.
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OK, back to the topic. If I end up need to use wheel spacer over 1/4", do I still need to use the washer spacer on the mounting bolt?
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OK, back to the topic. If I end up need to use wheel spacer over 1/4", do I still need to use the washer spacer on the mounting bolt?
Yes.
One spaces the caliper to fit the rotor and the other pushes the rim further out for spoke clearance.
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Jason, do you think these spacers will work? They comes with 1", 1.5" and 2" thickness.

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Jason, do you think these spacers will work? They comes with 1", 1.5" and 2" thickness.
Yes, those adapters look fine. Hubcentric is a plus.
Keep in mind that if you buy one thicker than you need, you will be pushing the wheel out more than necessary. See if they will make them in the exact size you need.
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Jason, do you think these spacers will work? They comes with 1", 1.5" and 2" thickness.
Those will work just fine, but what offset are your rims?? If they are stock F-body 56mm offset, those will push your wheels out about 1/2 (for the 1" adapter) further than you need them to be. That probably won't look very good.

Now if your wheels are a higher offset, something like +79mm offset like Iyyob has, then those would probably work perfectly, because you could use the 1.5" spacer to get them exactly the same offset as the stock Corvette.
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Those will work just fine, but what offset are your rims?? If they are stock F-body 56mm offset, those will push your wheels out about 1/2 (for the 1" adapter) further than you need them to be. That probably won't look very good.

Now if your wheels are a higher offset, something like +79mm offset like Iyyob has, then those would probably work perfectly, because you could use the 1.5" spacer to get them exactly the same offset as the stock Corvette.
That's something I wanna find out. I've 18x9.5" C5 wagon rim and I've no idea what's their offset. I find an listing on "the Bay" for these rim and they list it 61mm offset.
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You guys are making things too complicated talking about offsets and such. It's not that complicated.

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Honestly, I would buy the rotor and caliper and test fit everything on one side (without opening the brake lines). Then figure out the exact spacer size you need. Then put the stock parts back together and do the swap once your adapters arrive.
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I totally understand your statement. However, for $650 it'll be very expensive to learn that my rim doesn't work and need more investment. Top it off, I've the C5 kit already.
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That's something I wanna find out. I've 18x9.5" C5 wagon rim and I've no idea what's their offset. I find an listing on "the Bay" for these rim and they list it 61mm offset.
You will need to get your offset at about 41mm or below in order to clear the caliper. However, if your spokes stick inward more than a C6 or C6 Z06 wheel, you may require even more clearance. So if you got a 3/4" spacer you would be damn close, you would have to test fit it and check for sure though. A 1" spacer would definitely do it, but that might push your wheel out further than desired.
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I totally understand your statement. However, for $650 it'll be very expensive to learn that my rim doesn't work and need more investment. Top it off, I've the C5 kit already.
Not really, I can tell you right now your front rim isn't going to work without spacing it out. That's not surprising. If you want the bigger brakes, you buy the parts, test fit only to figure the correct spacer needed, then just keep driving until your spacers arrive. Once you have all the parts you need, then do the brake swap.

I'm assuming your C5 kit did NOT involve cutting on the spindles?
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Hey Jason I'm swapping out to 18x10.5s OEM Z06s 58mm offset. All 4 corners, Auto X setup only.

I figured I would measure and add some info in case someone asks...

Believe it or not the 58mm offset works but only allows 5/16" or less between spindle and wheel.

Ok onto the caliper to spokes....I measured 1.5" plus if you take into account that you will need a minimum 3/16 - 5/16 spacer to prevent tire rub. That should be plenty to clear these calipers.

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Hey Jason I'm swapping out to 18x10.5s OEM Z06s 58mm offset. All 4 corners, Auto X setup only.

I figured I would measure and add some info in case someone asks...

Believe it or not the 58mm offset works but only allows 5/16" or less between spindle and wheel.

Ok onto the caliper to spokes....I measured 1.5" plus if you take into account that you will need a minimum 3/16 - 5/16 spacer to prevent tire rub. That should be plenty to clear these calipers.
I noticed my 19x10 56mm tucked in tighter to the spindle than my 17's ever could. The bigger the diameter, the more you can tuck the wheel in. Up to a limit, of course.

What do you mean by "you will need a minimum 3/16 - 5/16 spacer to prevent tire rub"? What would the tire be rubbing on?
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The spindle.. the tire would more than likely rub on the spindle with no spacer.

When the tire is mounted on the wheel it still bulges out some, I measured the bulge of the tire from the wheel and it comes out to 5/16", thats on my 275s.

Right now no spacer there is only 5/16" clearance between wheel and spindle, the minute you add the tire that 5/16" is gone....see where I'm going? You would need a small spacer to prevent the rub on the spindle.

This is just by measuring I can give you the for sure when I mount tires very soon. And provide more info as to rubbing any where else.
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I think your over reacting. The bulge will be higher up, but under the ball joint. Check out this pic of mine.
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Yea i see what you saying but thats a 19" wheel vs a 18" its going to be lower on mine. That works good because its higher up the spindle.

Let me get the tires mounted and I'll update you, hey I'm all for not running a spacer!!!

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where did u guys order ur calipers from. right now only ones i see on ebay they want 400+ for em. n e other place thats cheaper?
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