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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Well one would think it would help since the tb neck sharply contours around the oil pressure sender so soon after the tb...I am thinking it would give the incoming air charge an overall smoother transition to the plenum...So I for one belive it would work to some extent....Of coarse removal of te tb provision would help....
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by steveman0018
where did you get the 3/8 inch fuel line tube?
Local autoparts store....I asked 6 inches of it at PepBoys and the guy gave it to me.
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Well one would think it would help since the tb neck sharply contours around the oil pressure sender so soon after the tb...I am thinking it would give the incoming air charge an overall smoother transition to the plenum...So I for one belive it would work to some extent....Of coarse removal of te tb provision would help....
Yeah the TB sits in a funny location, but I can't put words to what this piece does mathematically or scientifically, but I think it added some SOTP horsepower, and I've said it before, I'll take all I can get.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nacho SS
Local autoparts store....I asked 6 inches of it at PepBoys and the guy gave it to me.

Yeah the TB sits in a funny location, but I can't put words to what this piece does mathematically or scientifically, but I think it added some SOTP horsepower, and I've said it before, I'll take all I can get.
added plenum volume should, in theory, add torque all over the place with our cars being intake limited (IMO) vs being head/cam limited. What the hell, I am going to order one now. When I get it, I will scan how much air it is ingesting at WOT before and after install, that should give a decent indication if it helps make more power.

BTW, went through Amazon instead. Was a total of $106.80 including shipping/handling vs Summit's less palatable ~$119.90

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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Well I had a Summit Racing gift card laying around and I have probably everything I could buy for my MCSS from there so I decided to put the money towards the TB spacer. I installed it today and it was a 30 minute job and went rather smoothly.

I went for a cruise and noticed a whirling, whistling noise that comes from this thing that sounds like a turbo under load, and then once the car reaches a certain RPM, it sounds like the "turbo" blows off. I felt more power at the top end of each gear, low end felt about the same. However the top end of 2nd and 3rd are now a lot stronger and pull the speedo upwards much faster. If you have an extra 100 bucks layin' around then I recommend this mod.
And know one believed me before!
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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i gonna try this on my h2 that thing needs more 2nd gear pull lol
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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WTF, maybe I'll do this too?
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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haha well nacho i guess airaid should be thanking you, u pretty much got many of us to get it, including me.. lol
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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i will when i gots the money. just bought myself some ssc springs
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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Haha guys....I don't know if the results will be this stellar across the board. I tuned to spin my mill higher than stock along with a modded valvetrain (HS 1.8 Rockers/Comp Springs and Pushrods). So maybe I am seeing the full benefit of top end airflow?
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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its not that expensive so i would think it would be worth a try. if it doesnt work it doesnt work.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Still not jumping on this bandwagon....
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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eh well see. im thinkin this or the dogbone. then i think ill hold up for a little while and purchase somethin a little more expensive.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredGXP
Still not jumping on this bandwagon....
Hater in the house.....
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacho SS
Haha guys....I don't know if the results will be this stellar across the board. I tuned to spin my mill higher than stock along with a modded valvetrain (HS 1.8 Rockers/Comp Springs and Pushrods). So maybe I am seeing the full benefit of top end airflow?
Still the stock springs, but my Crane Quick-Lift's open my valves faster, longer, and higher (at all points other than max lift) than your HS rockers. Hopefully I will see some measurable results.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by scarlett
And know one believed me before!

Not so! Badd and I both commented that we were interested in the other thread.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacho SS
Hater in the house.....
Nah, just a professional skeptic

Over the last year or so, I've been reading up on certain aspects of intake and exhaust manifold design. While the volume of the intake plenum is acknowledged to have an effect on performance, I haven't really seen anything conclusive on this, so am not totally convinced that a few extra cubic inches volume in the intake neck will really have much of an effect.

It seems to me that much of the "tuning" involved in intake manifold design is concentrated on the runner length and size. The thing is that the extra length/volume added to the plenum doesn't affect the frequency of standing pressure waves and harmonics in the runners: that is determined by the runner length.

Here's a couple of interesting links on the subject:

http://v8soarer.com/intakerunners/index.shtml

http://www.not2fast.com/gasflow/Lect...3_document.htm

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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ordered one
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 06 SS
Still the stock springs, but my Crane Quick-Lift's open my valves faster, longer, and higher (at all points other than max lift) than your HS rockers. Hopefully I will see some measurable results.
I've been thinking of switching to the Crane's, how often do you have to tear the valve covers off and adjust them? I remember some sort of initial headache way back when with scarlett and the old crew.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2010cam
ordered one
Me too! Should be delivered Thursday! $101.40 @ Amazon!
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nacho SS
I've been thinking of switching to the Crane's, how often do you have to tear the valve covers off and adjust them? I remember some sort of initial headache way back when with scarlett and the old crew.
Never. Once I threw out the crappy directions Crane provided for the install and installed them just like any other small block. It did take a few weeks for the oil-restrictor pushrods included in the kit to stop making noise, but since then it is quieter than stock with the exception of a cold start on very cold days, then it takes about 15 seconds for them to quiet down. I have maybe 35K miles on them now (from memory). Never had the covers off after that.
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