2010 Camaro 13.0@110.9
Not that I'm buying one right away even though I can, I just can't believe anyone thinks this car is ugly. Ugly should be reserved for automotive marvels such as the Prius, Aztec, etc. As far as performance all of us bolt-on 4th gens will be getting embarassed by these "ugly" and heavy butt pigs once most of them have mild bolt-ons and tunes. And 13.0 sec stock rag times really mean 12.6-12.8's once these 5th gens are broken in and are driven with competent drivers. Stock!
Your on crack if you think Im jealous of people who buy a 5th gen. They are hideously ugly cars in my opinion, and Im not the only one that feels that way.
OMG you have soooooooo much money, I wish I could be more like you! Ive always dreamed of being a pompous ***! Get off your ******* high horse.
Can I afford to go buy one of these, no. Can I afford to go buy a new Z06, no. Do I think the 2010 Camaro is ugly, yes. Do I think a new Z06 is ugly, not at all. Jealousy, I think not.
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And for those of you saying that they had or saw or owned 4th gens that ran in the 12s bone stock.....I call bs! not on street tires! and your 4th gen only weighed maybe 3600 w/ a large driver.
So I want to see a bone stock 4th gen w/ a 400# weight in the back on street tires run 12s. Never gonna happen!
Now with that said I am not a fan of the 5th gen, Looks wise. I think the challenger is a much better looking car. But the ls3 is a way better platform than the mopar.
Looks = challenger
Performance = camaro
And gm has a formula they use where power to weight ratio comes into play.
Meaning you are not going to get a rear drive performance car that weighs in less than 4k#s. At least not one w/ over 400hp anyway.
Sorry for the rant
Doug
And for those of you saying that they had or saw or owned 4th gens that ran in the 12s bone stock.....I call bs! not on street tires! and your 4th gen only weighed maybe 3600 w/ a large driver.
So I want to see a bone stock 4th gen w/ a 400# weight in the back on street tires run 12s. Never gonna happen!
Now with that said I am not a fan of the 5th gen, Looks wise. I think the challenger is a much better looking car. But the ls3 is a way better platform than the mopar.
Looks = challenger
Performance = camaro
And gm has a formula they use where power to weight ratio comes into play.
Meaning you are not going to get a rear drive performance car that weighs in less than 4k#s. At least not one w/ over 400hp anyway.
Sorry for the rant
Doug
That said ... I really wanted to like this new Camaro but the more I hear and see it the more I wish they had just forgot about it after that damn Transformers movie. It weighs too much, and is too big, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the IRS is going to be a weak link.
Sorry for the rant, but they had an opportunity to create a masterpeice and save their own *** but they didn't in my opinion ... k, I'm done.
And for those of you saying that they had or saw or owned 4th gens that ran in the 12s bone stock.....I call bs! not on street tires! and your 4th gen only weighed maybe 3600 w/ a large driver.
So I want to see a bone stock 4th gen w/ a 400# weight in the back on street tires run 12s. Never gonna happen!
Now with that said I am not a fan of the 5th gen, Looks wise. I think the challenger is a much better looking car. But the ls3 is a way better platform than the mopar.
Looks = challenger
Performance = camaro
And gm has a formula they use where power to weight ratio comes into play.
Meaning you are not going to get a rear drive performance car that weighs in less than 4k#s. At least not one w/ over 400hp anyway.
Sorry for the rant
Doug
camaro- 4000/422 = 9.47:1
vette- 3200/422 = 7.58:1
z06- 3100/505 = 6.13:1
zr1- 3100/650 = 4.76:1
the 5g is gonna run the the same times as the 03/04 cobras. plus it has 100 more hp and 500-600 lbs more then the 4th gen
coefficent drag of this car is probably .50 which equals a brick on wheels.
no thanks, ill go get the vette for 5k more
as far as GM is concerned, they missed the retro look by about 5 years. this car is a joke. they should have just made a 5th gen look like a 5th gen and not a 1st gen
again heres to the new camaro
for failure and looks 
you dont see them making a retro vette do you?
maybe you never got the memo....the vettes are 1000 lbs lighter then the camaro and are safe as well 





