Kenne Bell on a Camaro? fab'd K member?
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Belt lineup issues with any of these kits is almost solely dependant on what front drive you intend to go with (C5, F body, GTO, CTS-V, etc..)
Kenne Bell prides themselves on a front drive setup. The rear inlet is just one more problem to have to overcome in its installation in an F Body. The Kenne Bell unit is, from all available media and tests, more efficient than both the Magnuson or Whipple. In tests against the Magnuson, the Kenne Belle blower ran half as hot (important considering it is a roots type) and had a lot wider boost band.
The Whipple LS1 has NO provision or plan for mounting in an Fbody or Vette. Sad because they have some REALLY cool dual blower setups.
I'm STILL having problems installing my Paxton Novi2000 in the 4th gen Camaro.
Kenne Bell prides themselves on a front drive setup. The rear inlet is just one more problem to have to overcome in its installation in an F Body. The Kenne Bell unit is, from all available media and tests, more efficient than both the Magnuson or Whipple. In tests against the Magnuson, the Kenne Belle blower ran half as hot (important considering it is a roots type) and had a lot wider boost band.
The Whipple LS1 has NO provision or plan for mounting in an Fbody or Vette. Sad because they have some REALLY cool dual blower setups.
I'm STILL having problems installing my Paxton Novi2000 in the 4th gen Camaro.
Whipple offers a setup designed to be used in a sandrail. I've talked a few times with 2 different guys from there and was told that on a 10-15 PSI 3.3, I would need to run their 10 rib setup. The kit comes with the blower, manifold, heat exchanger, fuel rails, and drive kit, and I think a bypass valve. The drive is designed/recomended to be used with an ATI steel balancer. The intake is just a simple adapter from the blower housing to a 90 mm t-body. A usable inlet manifold would need to be fabricated to put the t-body out front similar to a kenne bell as the adapter they sens would be unusable in a car. I also talked with kenne bell about an f-body kit..... for 2 minutes. Got the brush off in short order as they want no part of doing an f-body kit.
At any rate, it can be done with either setup but you have to be willing to do serious metal fabricating as well as have a means to trim the glass if necessary. Also since the kenne bell setup only has a vette drive, you'd also have to modify your drive to the vette style. After looking at all the complex turbo and F-2 setups with all the mods and time invested to make big power I dont believe that a screw is much more involved. I do understand that its much more intimidating.
At any rate, it can be done with either setup but you have to be willing to do serious metal fabricating as well as have a means to trim the glass if necessary. Also since the kenne bell setup only has a vette drive, you'd also have to modify your drive to the vette style. After looking at all the complex turbo and F-2 setups with all the mods and time invested to make big power I dont believe that a screw is much more involved. I do understand that its much more intimidating.
i think if you make the engine mounts shorter you will have some serious clearance issues with the oil pan and the road. but if it is not a street car then it is all good.
if i had the money for this project i would twincharge my camaro. Whipple being fed by twin turbos. pretty sure nobody did that on a camaro yet.
if i had the money for this project i would twincharge my camaro. Whipple being fed by twin turbos. pretty sure nobody did that on a camaro yet.
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The sheer size and height of the whipple blower precludes it from serious consideration for use on a 4th gen fbody. If you are cutting into the windshield to get it to fit, you are also cutting into the dash. Getting the whole thing to seal is going to be a nightmare. On top of everything else, the windshield is part of the unibody's structural integrity. Cutting a chunk out of it is going to cause it to crack everytime the body twists... been there and bought the t-shirt. hahaha Might work on a plexi windshield show car. But not the hot ticket for a daily driver.
we're getting some good discussion going on here. Keep it coming
I know i saw a picture of someone who put a whipple on a camaro on this board. It would have been about a year ago.
+1 on NOT cutting the windshield
I know i saw a picture of someone who put a whipple on a camaro on this board. It would have been about a year ago.
+1 on NOT cutting the windshield
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I had a chance to check out a 3.3 Whipple up close tonight and take a few measurements. 14.5" front of gear case housing to the inlet surface face, 6.5" from the base of the supercharger to the top, 7.5" if you include the adapter on the bottom for the manifold, and 9" wide.
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I had a chance to check out a 3.3 Whipple up close tonight and take a few measurements. 14.5" front of gear case housing to the inlet surface face, 6.5" from the base of the supercharger to the top, 7.5" if you include the adapter on the bottom for the manifold, and 9" wide.
From all the pics on Whipple's site, It looks to be taller than 9.36". Plus, it is a rear inlet. If you cut into the bottom of the cowl vent area and drew air in from that point. You MIGHT get it to work. But it would drown in rain or even if you washed your car. The Whipple is also the more efficient blower for the job. But the installation makes it impractical for an Fbody. Also a possiblity to draw the air in from under the dash from the inside of the car. But it would be awful noisy. And you would have to roll with the windows down to prevent suffocating the induction.
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I had a chance to check out a 3.3 Whipple up close tonight and take a few measurements. 14.5" front of gear case housing to the inlet surface face, 6.5" from the base of the supercharger to the top, 7.5" if you include the adapter on the bottom for the manifold, and 9" wide.
so 7.5" from the top of block to the top of the blower? Was this an intercooled unit?
It was on a ford GT with a whipple conversion. I only measured the blower itself and the adapter plate. The intake with intercooler would be additional but I couldnt really get a relevant measurement since the modular and LS manifold are totally different. I'm betting another 4" for the manifold for an overall height of 11.5".
whipple for a few years now redisigned their intercooler/manifold to a much lower profile, so its shorter, not sure if its for the LSX's though. I think a 2.3 whipple would have better chances of fitting in the engine bay of an f-body, and still be able to put out some great numbers.
oh and whipple for several years now has been making all their own stuff. they dont have lysholm make them any more. the "new" whipple's out perform the old lysholm units.
oh and whipple for several years now has been making all their own stuff. they dont have lysholm make them any more. the "new" whipple's out perform the old lysholm units.