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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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Found this for sale thread on Corvette Forum.


Originally built and freshened up by Joe’s Performance Racing Engines in Ft Myers, FL. “0” miles, no time on it since the freshened up. It's a 383 CID stroker crank, road racing, blueprinted, LS, long block assembly. This motor is really fast and ran a lap time of 2:18.4 in my 3000# Corvette on the Sebring International long course just before this recent rebuild. The last engine dyno run was 602 HP @ 6700 RPM w/ 532 # ft torque @ 3900 RPM at the flywheel. It comes with the original Superflow engine dyno sheet.

This LS long block motor includes the following parts:

Stock LS-6 heads with port work & bowel blending. 1.600” exhaust & 2.020 intakes

Crower roller cam with .570” intake lift & .559” exhaust lift and 232/241 degrees of duration @ 50

Forged Ross pistons with 11.5 to 1 compression ratio
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Linky?
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...ong-block.html
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I don't understand the point of this thread?
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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"Dynamometer Results & Comparisons" would be your answer.

That would make in the 510-530whp range with a fairly gentle camshaft in a 383 setup..
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
I don't understand the point of this thread?

Are you asking a question, or making a statement?

Let's see, this is a discussion forum about dyno testing and comparison. What could the point possibly be???
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 429 Mustang
Are you asking a question, or making a statement?

Let's see, this is a discussion forum about dyno testing and comparison. What could the point possibly be???
I'm not sure, that's why I asked. So you tell me?

All you did was post a link to another forum's for sale section. You then copied and pasted the advertisement. You made sure to bold a few points but you never elaborate as to why you bolded the points.


So again, I ask, what is the point of this thread? Are you asking if this is feasible? Are you asking if this would be a radical combo to achieve these kinds of numbers? Are you asking if 243 casting heads are capable of pushing a combo like this over the 500rwhp/600 crank hp mark?
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
I'm not sure, that's why I asked. So you tell me?

All you did was post a link to another forum's for sale section. You then copied and pasted the advertisement. You made sure to bold a few points but you never elaborate as to why you bolded the points.


So again, I ask, what is the point of this thread? Are you asking if this is feasible? Are you asking if this would be a radical combo to achieve these kinds of numbers? Are you asking if 243 casting heads are capable of pushing a combo like this over the 500rwhp/600 crank hp mark?
I'm thinking he meant that...

But I have to say this has to be one of the strongest 383 with 243s and a small cam...

Well, I believe its a happy dyno. 408ci are lucky to push the 500rwhp mark with bigger cam and better heads.
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The cam is almost small for a stock size LS1...
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
Are you asking if this is feasible? Are you asking if this would be a radical combo to achieve these kinds of numbers? Are you asking if 243 casting heads are capable of pushing a combo like this over the 500rwhp/600 crank hp mark?
For someone who doesn't get it you sure seem to get it...
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Originally Posted by 429 Mustang
Are you asking a question, or making a statement?

Let's see, this is a discussion forum about dyno testing and comparison. What could the point possibly be???
i'm pretty sure that because you made post with no valid question he has a point. just because you did something dumb doesnt mean you have to argue about why you're not retarded. we know you are, accept it and move on with whatever you wanted to say.
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Why in the F*** would anyone want their bowels blended? How do you even go about doing that?
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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
I'm thinking he meant that...

But I have to say this has to be one of the strongest 383 with 243s and a small cam...

Well, I believe its a happy dyno. 408ci are lucky to push the 500rwhp mark with bigger cam and better heads.
If the heads were worked over and gone through by someone *capable* then there is no reason that this 383 couldn't do 500+rwhp. There are plenty on here that are pushing these kinds of numbers with proper setups.

A 232/241 isn't a small cam by any means either. Bigger cams don't always equal more power. As far as the heads go, 243 castings are well sought after and damn good in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing. They can move some serious air.

408's aren't lucky to hit and go beyond 500rwhp. It's the people who skimp on their head and intake selection and throw in some giant mis-matched cam that struggle to make or break 500rwhp.
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Originally Posted by jmilz28
Why in the F*** would anyone want their bowels blended? How do you even go about doing that?
I'm no expert but I would think that term refers to work in and around the valve to help create a nice path into the combustion chamber.
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Bowls and Bowels are two completely different things.
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I dont think I have ever heard of this Joe's performance racing engines place. Also, with that combo, I am doubting the numbers, unless the guy forgot to add that he was on a 100 shot.
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Originally Posted by Chris Gage
I dont think I have ever heard of this Joe's performance racing engines place. Also, with that combo, I am doubting the numbers, unless the guy forgot to add that he was on a 100 shot.
Contrary to the belief of most people on the LS boards, the majority of the best engine builders don't spend much if any of their time building LS motors. There are arenas in motorsports with a much more lucrative business model for building engines than trying to compete with the cookie cutter builds most prefer in our LS world. Aside from some of the unique intake flow characteristics on the LS based heads its just a small block chevy so any competent race engine builder can easily learn the differences and make an LS setup make the power.
How often do we actually see FWHP #'s on this board ? Call up TSP, or HKE etc... and ask what kind of FWHP #'s they've seen before raising the BS flag. Something else to consider is, this engine on the dyno more than likely had the optimum exhaust, no accessories, temp controlled enviroment, e-water pump etc.....
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Originally Posted by jason99frc
Contrary to the belief of most people on the LS boards, the majority of the best engine builders don't spend much if any of their time building LS motors. There are arenas in motorsports with a much more lucrative business model for building engines than trying to compete with the cookie cutter builds most prefer in our LS world. Aside from some of the unique intake flow characteristics on the LS based heads its just a small block chevy so any competent race engine builder can easily learn the differences and make an LS setup make the power.
How often do we actually see FWHP #'s on this board ? Call up TSP, or HKE etc... and ask what kind of FWHP #'s they've seen before raising the BS flag. Something else to consider is, this engine on the dyno more than likely had the optimum exhaust, no accessories, temp controlled enviroment, e-water pump etc.....
Yes sir!
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well that and you never know who he had do the heads. His neighbor might build motors for Top Fuel or some ****. It may be highly unlikely but it is not impossible. go into it with an open mind and ask a helluva lot of questions.

FYI- New ZR1 makes 638 at the flywheel and 507 at the pavement

I have an engine dyno in my shop and its very uncommon to see a (street car)drivetrain eat less than a hundred horsepower. Th400's are the worst, they can use any where from 125 to 225 horsepower in themselves, not including driveshaft, axle, etc.

Ever seen or heard of a 475 or 500 wheel HP vette with a 383?

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