So they can run fast at the track afterall :) Bone stock LS3 SS runs 12.87 quarter
Not bad but that was still with a 2.0 60ft.. if that guy could of hit a 1.8-1.7 60ft. then we would of all been like:
DAMN! I KNEW! 12.6 is right around the corner... we just need a guy with more practice to click it off.
At 109-111 mph, this car is a definite mid 12's car... you can count on it.
DAMN! I KNEW! 12.6 is right around the corner... we just need a guy with more practice to click it off.
At 109-111 mph, this car is a definite mid 12's car... you can count on it.
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If I would have been able to practice the launch I would have pulled a 12.9 with no Problem on reg tires. I managed a 12.8 on drag radials. Stock.
Saw Multiple SS Camaros hit 12's stock. Most of them where 02's.
However , The 5th gen is a better car. Period.
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Stock 99 TA with HORRIBLE 60's , I ran a 13.0@109.(Best eta stock,4 times in the same night)This is with street tires and a 2.2 60. I could not get the thing to stick for crap so I nursed it off the line. The track prep sucks at my local track for test and tune night.
If I would have been able to practice the launch I would have pulled a 12.9 with no Problem on reg tires. I managed a 12.8 on drag radials. Stock.
Saw Multiple SS Camaros hit 12's stock. Most of them where 02's.
If I would have been able to practice the launch I would have pulled a 12.9 with no Problem on reg tires. I managed a 12.8 on drag radials. Stock.
Saw Multiple SS Camaros hit 12's stock. Most of them where 02's.
i call BS..
no way you ran a 13.0@109 with a 2.2 short... with what these cars should 60 with a good driver (1.9s) that would put you at a 12.70 pass... not going to happen..
unless your definition of a truly "stock" car is not stock.. as in you cant say with drag radials i would have hit a XX.XX @ XXX.XX. Stock.
My Formula ran 12's stock, but it took a long time for me to get the hang of racing an M6 car after so many years of racing auto's. It takes a lot of finesse to get a bone stock 4th gen into the 12's. The first time I ran a 12 in my formula when it was stock I ended up bending the shift forks with only 6k miles on the car. I'm not going to lie, until I got the hang of launching the car I was running 13.5-13.6. If I remember the first documented 12.8 in a stock 4th gen was Evan from MM&FF way back in 98, but he can drive the wheels off of a car. It got much easier in 01&02 to hit the 12's, but it was still only maybe 1 in 15 people that would go to the track with a stock 4th gen that could dip into the 12's.
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A small hand full of us ran 12s stock before Evan Smith did. The first one was Dave Tittermary during the LS1.com days. Evan's passes were highly popular, because he published the article in his Mustang magazine and praised the LS1 engine and bashed on Ford for producing the shitbox 4.6L cars at the same time.
****. I was one of those Mustang guys before I drove a stroked LT1.
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Verdad Gallardo A small hand full of us ran 12s stock before Evan Smith did. The first one was Dave Tittermary during the LS1.com days. Evan's passes were highly popular, because he published the article in his Mustang magazine and praised the LS1 engine and bashed on Ford for producing the shitbox 4.6L cars at the same time.
just curious..
im not calling BS that anybody runs 12s in a bone stock ls1... but with a 2.2 shor ttime.........
what is the fastest "truly" stock ls1 time you have witnessed?
i mean down to the filter, tires, everything... STOCK.
kind of interesting..
Man....I know plenty of guys in 4th gens stock to the paper filter that ran 12's. I knew a guy with a stock 98 Formula that ran 12.80's@112 with nothing done to it at all, oh yeah..on Pep boys Futura tires as well!!
112 trap? was the track pointing downhill? was the wind pushing him?
Ive never seen higher than a 109 trap for a stock fourth gen. And the norm is usually 105-107.
That 12.8 could have been a 12.5-12.6 or so with a good launch if he is trapping 112 jesus christ that is fast.
I cant believe the 112 trap speed.
Ive never seen higher than a 109 trap for a stock fourth gen. And the norm is usually 105-107.
That 12.8 could have been a 12.5-12.6 or so with a good launch if he is trapping 112 jesus christ that is fast.
I cant believe the 112 trap speed.
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Keep in mind only 1% of people on the net when posting their times ever mention Density Altitude.
Its not just about temperature and humidity, track altitude and pressure have way more to do with a good run than just the difference between 60'F-70'F.
Example: If the DA is -1,200ft in Tulsa Oklahoma or ATCO or somewhere the bone stock Camaro with good driver could very well see 12.8s (Just like the LS2 GTOs do). Now take that same car and same driver and put him in Texas on a low pressure day at a higher altitude and all of a sudden that 12.8 starts looking more like 13.2-13.5s.
Take peoples times with a grain of salt if you plan on comparing them to others without first investigating ALL the variables and conditions. Just because Camaro A runs 12.8s in -1,000DA mineshaft air and Camaro B runs 13.3s in 2,500+DA doesnt always mean that Camaro A must be a "freak"/suspicious/lying compared to Camaro B.
Its not just about temperature and humidity, track altitude and pressure have way more to do with a good run than just the difference between 60'F-70'F.
Example: If the DA is -1,200ft in Tulsa Oklahoma or ATCO or somewhere the bone stock Camaro with good driver could very well see 12.8s (Just like the LS2 GTOs do). Now take that same car and same driver and put him in Texas on a low pressure day at a higher altitude and all of a sudden that 12.8 starts looking more like 13.2-13.5s.
Take peoples times with a grain of salt if you plan on comparing them to others without first investigating ALL the variables and conditions. Just because Camaro A runs 12.8s in -1,000DA mineshaft air and Camaro B runs 13.3s in 2,500+DA doesnt always mean that Camaro A must be a "freak"/suspicious/lying compared to Camaro B.
dont forget a full tank of 87 octane and a heavy tool box in the back!
I remember him! He made the run in July in florida right??!
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It took 3.73 gears, CAI, and cat back with a tune for my a4 Formy to hit 12s. After all that I sat at high 12s consistantly. My first run was a 13.1 @ 107mph. Not to far from 12s but after the mods The Best I got was 12.71 @110mph on street tires(never ran DRs). It's hard for me to believe that a stock LS1 trapped 109mph with a 2.2 60ft. like earlier posted. I think I was only getting 1.9 and 2.0 60fts and I was only trapping 107-109mph.