New Guy calling G-body owners
New Guy calling G-body owners Greetings all,
I have a 1987 Monte Carlo SS that will be getting a 2004 5.3L and 4l80e in the near future. By searching and prowling this forum for a good while I have been able to answer many of the questions I have had but can't get a straight answer on accessories.
My engine came with all the truck accessories and I am wondering if I can use the brackets that I have or if I need a F-body set-up or kit from kwik performance? The car has a 3" fiberglass cowl hood by Harwood so I am pretty sure the tall intake will clear but don't know if the alternator is too far forward or off to the left to fit under the cowl. Are any of you G guys running the stock truck accessories? What motor mounts/plates are you using to make the accessories clear?
Sorry if this has already been covered, I haven't been able to find this info. in my searches.
Mike
I have a 1987 Monte Carlo SS that will be getting a 2004 5.3L and 4l80e in the near future. By searching and prowling this forum for a good while I have been able to answer many of the questions I have had but can't get a straight answer on accessories.
My engine came with all the truck accessories and I am wondering if I can use the brackets that I have or if I need a F-body set-up or kit from kwik performance? The car has a 3" fiberglass cowl hood by Harwood so I am pretty sure the tall intake will clear but don't know if the alternator is too far forward or off to the left to fit under the cowl. Are any of you G guys running the stock truck accessories? What motor mounts/plates are you using to make the accessories clear?
Sorry if this has already been covered, I haven't been able to find this info. in my searches.
Mike
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G-Body LS Swaps There are a lot of G-body LS swaps here...I'll link a few to get you started.
Probably John Bzdels Monte swaps are among the best documented:
http://www.ls7montess.com/
The car is currently LS7 powered, but in the middle of the page, click the "here" link to the original LS1 swap:
http://www.montecarloss.com/ls1montecarloss/
and, of course, the G-body swap thread:https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...ap-thread.html
This is a 5.3l Malibu swap w/ 4L60 trans w/ lots of pics:
http://www.maliburacing.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=34
Also, this 85 El Camino w/ 5.3l and 4L60:
http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewga...d=1&carid=3043
Good luck w/ your project
Probably John Bzdels Monte swaps are among the best documented:
http://www.ls7montess.com/
The car is currently LS7 powered, but in the middle of the page, click the "here" link to the original LS1 swap:
http://www.montecarloss.com/ls1montecarloss/
and, of course, the G-body swap thread:https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...ap-thread.html
This is a 5.3l Malibu swap w/ 4L60 trans w/ lots of pics:
http://www.maliburacing.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=34
Also, this 85 El Camino w/ 5.3l and 4L60:
http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewga...d=1&carid=3043
Good luck w/ your project
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From: Falkner, MS
The truck accessories will work under the hood of a G-body. It's close, but it all fits. You will probably have to purchase a smaller diameter power steering pulley. I think my pulley came off a Trailblazer. It was 1" smaller than the stock truck pulley. HTH.
Good Luck!
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You rang.
The truck accys will fit in most of the G-Body cars. I know they fit the cutlass without any problems, the El Camino/malibu is tighter but fits and I believe they should also fit the montes, regals grand prix`s etc. Toss the underhood blanket though, or you will burn up voltage regulators in the alt
. I used custom mounts that use f-body motor side mounts, they place the engine as low as possible and pretty far back too, so I had enough room for the stock PS pump pulley and to fit the intake/accys under the stock hood.
The truck accys will fit in most of the G-Body cars. I know they fit the cutlass without any problems, the El Camino/malibu is tighter but fits and I believe they should also fit the montes, regals grand prix`s etc. Toss the underhood blanket though, or you will burn up voltage regulators in the alt
. I used custom mounts that use f-body motor side mounts, they place the engine as low as possible and pretty far back too, so I had enough room for the stock PS pump pulley and to fit the intake/accys under the stock hood. I also know that the truck accessories will fit under the hood, it close tho. Like Kevin said, the issue you'll most likely have to deal with is the power steering pulley. I got mine off a 3.1L V6 Grand Am or something. Those things are VERY common and should be pretty easy to find. I had to press it on the shaft a little further it to line up properly, so watch for that when pressing it on. The truck intake fit, but the Vortec 'beauty' cover wont...no biggie cuz its getting a FAST 102 next year anyways.
Hey thanks for the in info. guys. I sure am glad that I don't have to shell out more money to replace parts that I already have that are in perfectly good condition already (kinda on a budget). What you all seem to be leaving out is your motor mounts. Seems everyone is always saying that the reason why there are no definite answers for swaps is because of all the different companies making slightly different products. If you don't mind please let me know what plates and mounts you are using on your G-bodies that allow the stock truck accessories to fit under the hood. I'd like to start shopping for these parts as I progress in buying parts needed for this swap.
Thanks again,
Mike
Thanks again,
Mike
Moroso 62630 $43bucks.
Transdapt 4595 motor mount kit $62bucks. Or the stock v8 mounts will work I think, I had a v6.
The transdapt is the 1" set back kit. However you can get it stock location as well. The 4595 will hit the factory A/C box (If I had one..I'm going Vintage Air next summer) There is a post of the mods needed some where on this site.
Good Luck.
Transdapt 4595 motor mount kit $62bucks. Or the stock v8 mounts will work I think, I had a v6.
The transdapt is the 1" set back kit. However you can get it stock location as well. The 4595 will hit the factory A/C box (If I had one..I'm going Vintage Air next summer) There is a post of the mods needed some where on this site.
Good Luck.
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Cool thanks mach.80. I think I have found the transdapt stock location kit (want to keep A/C). Since I already have a V8 I should just be able to get regular motor mounts to work with the transdapt plates, correct? I'd rather not use solid motor mounts as I plan on doing a lot of driving and don't know if solid mounts would transfer too much vibration into the car.
Mike
Mike
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Verdad Gallardo I dont think so, maybe a fraction of an inch. The solid ones are designed to be a replacement for the urethane ones as far as dimensions go, unless you get taller ones, so they should put the motor in the same spot.
Cool thanks mach.80. I think I have found the transdapt stock location kit (want to keep A/C). Since I already have a V8 I should just be able to get regular motor mounts to work with the transdapt plates, correct? I'd rather not use solid motor mounts as I plan on doing a lot of driving and don't know if solid mounts would transfer too much vibration into the car.
Mike
Mike
mach.80 keep me up to date on your progress with transdapt plates and what plates you end up using. There is a post somewhere on here about plates on ebay for around $30, don't know if the guy bought and installed them yet...
Found them on ebay instead of trying to find the thread
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS1-C...item3a5387eda4
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS1-C...item3a5387eda4
Transdapt plates and mounts work. But they will require some fitting to get them set up esp the 1" setback ones. For the price you cant beat them. They also include rubber mounts in the kit so If you use the 62630 your engine wont be solid mounted. I have been running this setup for about 3 years now.
Thanks for the clarification topher455. Maybe I will buy the Moroso parts to clean up everything a little bit instead of using the stock, not so pretty, clam shells.
Yea I used the ctsv pan. Which is my problem I think. I had to clearance the frame a little near the edges of the pan then I made 1/2" plates to go under the moroso plates. As for the Transdapt the holes didn't line up to the block or even to the mounts that came with them. Kinda sloppy tolerances. I had to drill out almost every hole and it was still tight. Ok now, just not bolt in. Itll work just not what I thought it was going to be.
Found them on ebay instead of trying to find the thread
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS1-C...item3a5387eda4
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS1-C...item3a5387eda4