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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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Here's what I found

This is a GTO T56. This is the input shaft



This bearing, its rollers, and their cage are completely gone.



This is what was fished out of the trans, all teeth are accounted for, roller wheels, Im not sure, cage is accounted for.



Where can I buy the input shaft with bearing, and the rear side bearing that disentigrated?

How do I get the race off the mainshaft?

thanks

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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Wow..where did this Tranny come from?
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Out of a friends car

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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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Yeah, I got it...PM coming..
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Getting the race off can be a pain in the ***... when i rebuilt mine, i tried heating it. when that didn't work i resorted to cutting it off. When they are assembled, moisture can get caught and rust making it impossible to get off.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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I have had the exact same problem with 10 bolt carrier bearings. I have fine tuned cutting them off with a Dremel. This shouldnt be so hard.........
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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The race can be removed with a bearing puller and a press. The parts you need are available from any of the sponsors on the forum. The GTO is a M12 and doesn't interchange with F-body trans parts. Just a FYI.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LS123
The race can be removed with a bearing puller and a press. The parts you need are available from any of the sponsors on the forum. The GTO is a M12 and doesn't interchange with F-body trans parts. Just a FYI.
Mine wouldn't come off with a press...
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Out of a friends car
I meant who built it then I remembered it was a SSI T56. That looks like it's Faceplated..

I guess I called the Bearing on the money..lol
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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"faceplated"??? And yes its an 04 gto t-56 rebuilt by Six Speeds Inc less then 5K ago.

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the tranny wasn't dis-assmblied right. the input shaft should have been one of the last parts removed. i would look closely at the endplay and completely disassembly the tranny and see if that metal damaged anything else before ordering parts.
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The way the Input Shaft looks..the way it's setup. Unless it's missing a big chunk, the Engagement Teeth go all the way around on a stock one. Hopefully one of the sponsors here that build them on a regular basis can post a pic up..
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
The way the Input Shaft looks..the way it's setup. Unless it's missing a big chunk, the Engagement Teeth go all the way around on a stock one. Hopefully one of the sponsors here that build them on a regular basis can post a pic up..
The GTO (and C5) units have double-cone synchros on 3-4 and 5-6, so they have steps in the gears to hold the inner cone tangs. This is not a face plated trans, just a stock double-cone syncho setup.
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Ah..ok..just like the 1st and 2nd Gear on the F-body ones.
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Thanks Steve for the labor and the creation of the thread.
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Looks like Gen414 fixed us up with the parts. Hopefully we can get this back together this weekend.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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It could have been alot worse.

It might not be a bad idea to check your end play.



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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Looks like Gen414 fixed us up with the parts. Hopefully we can get this back together this weekend.
I tried and I tried and I tried, I cant get the damn bearing race of the mainshaft. Im considering pulling the mainshaft, disassembling it, and going after it that way. Also the 3/4 fork has turned counter-clockwise about a half an inch and wont straighten back up . Pointers for me to get this done???
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by badss_02
Getting the race off can be a pain in the ***... when i rebuilt mine, i tried heating it. when that didn't work i resorted to cutting it off. When they are assembled, moisture can get caught and rust making it impossible to get off.
I cut this race twice, on opposite sides and the ****** still wont come.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
I cut this race twice, on opposite sides and the ****** still wont come.
Personally, if it's giving you that much grief, it's probably taken some heat and might want to consider replacing the mainshaft.... Regardless, take it as karma telling you to tear apart the entire trans and inspect everything while putting it back together..

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