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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Ok we have now a discusion in the german Corvette-Forum about the accerlation from 0-125mph.

The Corvetteowners stand on the point they where stock about 6-7 sec faster on 125 mph than a stock F-Body.

I talk to them and say that is BS

What is your oppion about that?
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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that seems like quite a large differance. I think its obvious that stock for stock, an F-body and a vette of the same year, the vette would beat the f-bod due to the whole weight and areo dynamics thing, but almost 10 seconds seems like a long shot!
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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it depends on if the Camaro is modded to a stock C5. the Corvette is MUCH lighter. I have an LT1 and raced a '98 6 speed vette with intake and mufflers and from a 0-120 sprint we were dead even with my nose just BARELY in front of his. i pulled him in 2nd and then it evened out from 75+~Cole~
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ColeTrains'96Z28
it depends on if the Camaro is modded to a stock C5. the Corvette is MUCH lighter. I have an LT1 and raced a '98 6 speed vette with intake and mufflers and from a 0-120 sprint we were dead even with my nose just BARELY in front of his. i pulled him in 2nd and then it evened out from 75+~Cole~
he is specifically talking about "stock for stock". My car ran up against a C5 vert that sounded pretty stock on the interstate, and we went four times from about 60ish and ended at around 130 and each time i put about a 1 1/2 on him but that is irrelavent because he is asking about stock acceleratoin.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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7 seconds faster!!!! I highly doubt that. The C5 would reach 125 quicker and be more stable there, but damn that is a huge difference. With all things being equal (tranny/driver/coupe, vert) I would think only 3-4 seconds at most, but I could be wrong.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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i would think, same year cars, both 6speed cars. both coupe cars, seeing as convertible cars are ususally heavier...the vette would run about 3-5 seconds faster...

i highly doubt that 7 seconds though.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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gyrene2003~well i guess stock for stock they are close. but i think it's weird that my mildly modded LT1 can hang or pull one. i whooped on a stock convertible on the interstate from a 55-100 roll. his didn't downshift right or some **** but it was game over
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ColeTrains'96Z28
gyrene2003~well i guess stock for stock they are close. but i think it's weird that my mildly modded LT1 can hang or pull one. i whooped on a stock convertible on the interstate from a 55-100 roll. his didn't downshift right or some **** but it was game over

well, now im just curious, what do u run in the 1/4?
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as far as the debate....theres only one way to find out
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i raced a intake/exhuast/DR 2004 C5(A4), i was full boltons, and i had my system in the trunk and my boy ridding shotgun, i got him by 1 1/2 lengths, i missed 4th though i got a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLiJaxb3v8A (my camera sucks) im on the far side
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Originally Posted by 98 Formula
Ok we have now a discusion in the german Corvette-Forum about the accerlation from 0-125mph.

The Corvetteowners stand on the point they where stock about 6-7 sec faster on 125 mph than a stock F-Body.

I talk to them and say that is BS

What is your oppion about that?
What years/engines are you questioning? Are we talking '97-'04 Corvettes vs '98-'02 F-bodies? Or '92-'96 Vette vs '93-'97 F-body? Or even '85-'91 Vette vs '86-'92 F-body?

It makes quite a difference, IMO.

Assuming you mean LS1 based cars, I'd find it VERY hard to beleive that stock for stock, trans type for trans type, that the Vette would be that much quicker. There is very little difference between the two in a 1/4 mile race, which will usually end at around 104-108mph for a stock LS1 (vette or F-body). I don't see a 7 second gap opening up between the Vette and the F-body from ~105mph to 125mph.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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I'm with RPM, no go on 10 seconds. Only difference we are talking about is weight and aero. Really Aerodynamics don't have much a difference til 115+. If the acceleration test was from 0-150, then yes aero would have a much larger play to go that last 25mph over 125.

I'd bet 5 second difference for the same year engine, same trans, same driver, same rearend.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
What years/engines are you questioning? Are we talking '97-'04 Corvettes vs '98-'02 F-bodies? Or '92-'96 Vette vs '93-'97 F-body? Or even '85-'91 Vette vs '86-'92 F-body?

It makes quite a difference, IMO.

Assuming you mean LS1 based cars, I'd find it VERY hard to beleive that stock for stock, trans type for trans type, that the Vette would be that much quicker. There is very little difference between the two in a 1/4 mile race, which will usually end at around 104-108mph for a stock LS1 (vette or F-body). I don't see a 7 second gap opening up between the Vette and the F-body from ~105mph to 125mph.
I concur.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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I am with RPM on this one too.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mcamarols1
i raced a intake/exhuast/DR 2004 C5(A4), i was full boltons, and i had my system in the trunk and my boy ridding shotgun, i got him by 1 1/2 lengths, i missed 4th though i got a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLiJaxb3v8A (my camera sucks) im on the far side
lol. "the guy in the corvette shoulda got a Z06"
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I have a box with old Car and Drivers(only the choice ones) from about 1993 to 2000...I trashed all the newer stuff, easier to find on the net. Unfortunately it is in my parents basement gathering dust, lol. Here's what I could find though, just a rough idea of cars and their 0-130mph capability.

1994 LT1 Camaro Z/28: 0-130mph 26.6seconds

2001 Corvette Z06: 0-130mph 17.2seconds

2004 LS1 GTO: 0-130mph 23.39seconds

2003 Nissan 350Z Track: 0-130mph 26.56seconds

2002 BMW M3 0-130mph 20.3seconds

1995 Acura NSX 0-130mph 23.36seconds

2004 WRX STI: 0130mph 25.46seconds

1993 Corvette ZR1: 0-130mph 18.3seconds

2005 Mustang GT: 0-130mph 25.6seconds

2005 LS2 GTO: 0-130mph 19.6seconds

2006 Corvette ZO6: 0-130mph 13.3 seconds

1996 LT4 Corvette Grand Sport: 0-130 23.7 seconds

1995 Mustang Cobra: 0-130mph 35.56seconds

Alas, I can't find anything good for an LS1 Camaro. I wasn't really trying to argue one way or the other, just got curious and figured I'd share what I saw on an interesting variety of performance cars from the last decade.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gyrene2003
well, now im just curious, what do u run in the 1/4?
I've never had it to the track. I should this year but when, i don't know. I do believe the previous owner took it multiple times and ran a best of 13.2 Don't remember what MPH. But i've done the upgraded pump, LT4 KM, and some other better exhaust and stuff since then. I'm hopin' to hit that again or maybe better. This next winter it's getting new heads and cam, possibly a 383 stroker.
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Originally Posted by Hoss Ghoul
1994 LT1 Camaro Z/28: 0-130mph 26.6seconds

2001 Corvette Z06: 0-130mph 17.2seconds
Damn, I think that's all the info we need right there.

If there is only a 9.4 second difference between an '01 ZO6 and a '94 LT1 from 0-130mph, then I'm certain that the gap between an LS1 F-body and an LS1 Corvette from 0-125mph would be MUCH smaller than 7 seconds.

On a side note,

1995 Mustang Cobra: 0-130mph 35.56seconds
That's just plain funny.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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With everything stock and equal drivers, up to at least 105mph, there's barely a second gap between f-body and vette for 98-02.

Since aero doesn't factor in as badly until 130+mph, how does a vette gain 7 seconds for a run from 105+mph to 125mph? I can see it gaining maybe another second to two seconds at most.
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i call bs
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